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Just got home from a walk to the shops. This happened a few minutes ago.

Man walking 3 Jack Russells. One approaches my feet so I stop and quietly explain to him that I am partially sighted at my feet and feel his dog is a threat. It won't return to him when he calls it. He eventually comes over and drags it away from my feet, whereupon the second dog climbs up my leg. I tell him to get the dog off me or I will kick it in the ribs and he says if I do that he will do the same to me. That dog leaves me and the 3rd dog takes its place scrabbling up my jeans, at which point I explode and tell him to put his dogs on a f[><_/g lead. He tells me not to swear at him so I tell him to control his f[=</÷g dogs in a public place. He asks where it says that he has to do that and I tell him it's the law. At this point he says he'll now have to wash his dogs because they've been in contact with me.

Honestly, I feel so sorry for responsible dog owners when people like this are out in public.
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Oh gawd, the idiot. The puppies did this one time, I was absolutely mortified, not everyone is a fan of dogs clambering up them. There is no way I’d be aggressive towards a member of the public when my dogs were doing the wrong thing. I hope you don’t encounter him again. Might be worth finding out if you have a local dog warden?
 

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And today I met a lovely dog owner with a beautifully behaved Boxer.

I had a four hour train journey, with a reserved seat. Except the train company’s tech totally messed up. Leading to me being told my ticket was invalid and so on. Despite having the emails with the booking!

Given that my reason for the journey was upsetting in the first place, this tipped me over the edge.

This lovely boy knew I was upset and spent most of the journey wrapped around my legs trying to comfort me, after his owner had asked if I was happy for him to be with me.

What a kind pair.
 

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I think all dog owners should be aware that in 2022 it is a privilege to have a dog out in public, and restrict (prevent) it's access to other people.
I'm sure 200 years ago it was acceptable to have dogs roaming and off lead but please wise up general dog owning public, dogs will end up not welcome anywhere in our time if people don't cotton on to the fact that it is not going to kill the dog to be on a lead for however long is necessary.
 

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I think all dog owners should be aware that in 2022 it is a privilege to have a dog out in public, and restrict (prevent) it's access to other people.
I'm sure 200 years ago it was acceptable to have dogs roaming and off lead but please wise up general dog owning public, dogs will end up not welcome anywhere in our time if people don't cotton on to the fact that it is not going to kill the dog to be on a lead for however long is necessary.

Yep and we live in an extremely litigious society these days. More a-holes = more restrictions and implications for the rest of us.
 

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Yep and we live in an extremely litigious society these days. More a-holes = more restrictions and implications for the rest of us.

I thought humans were supposed to have the ability of theoretical foresight and a comprehension of action=consequence, but it seems that more and more of the human race lack these basic skills, and are only interested in what makes them feel good/happy/vindicated/whatever *now*. There also seems to be an alarmingly widespread lack of common sense and decency, let alone knowledge of things like the law and dog behaviour.

(not aimed at you CC, I'm agreeing with you!).
 

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I think all dog owners should be aware that in 2022 it is a privilege to have a dog out in public, and restrict (prevent) it's access to other people.
I'm sure 200 years ago it was acceptable to have dogs roaming and off lead but please wise up general dog owning public, dogs will end up not welcome anywhere in our time if people don't cotton on to the fact that it is not going to kill the dog to be on a lead for however long is necessary.

Trouble is, owners who don’t control their dogs don’t tend to be on AAD. I’d like to think that us lot are sensible and read the situation, even if only to keep our own dog safe.
 

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The little dog I posted about the other week has had 2 more seizures since then - they’re getting much more frequent, and the dog continually trembles now. Owner is still talking about trying more, or different combinations, of medicines to give the dog ‘some relief’. It seems as though their family are mostly of the opinion that the dog should’ve been PTS at various previous stages in it’s illnesses, but the owner is so delusional that they’re actually talking about handing in their notice at work, so that they can be with the dog at all times.

I’m not sure what kind of magic bean they’re holding out for, there’s nothing that can give the poor dog the lifespan of a human, and the owner doesn’t seem to be able to settle for anything less than.

I can very easily imagine the dog dying whilst fitting, or in the car being rushed to the emergency vets. Terrible thing, when the owner could help it pass peacefully, in it’s own home.
 

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Of you are walking your large lab, on a choke chain and two people with three labs sitting on the verge do you:
1. Walk past with your dog under control and say good evening.
2. Wrestle your dog past
3. Allow your dog to stick its face into the face of the first dog, ignoring the one who has started to bark hysterically and get annoyed when asked to take your dog away?
Guess which happened to us this evening?
 

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We encountered excellent dog walkers (near Birtley, up north) today and yesterday. They kept their dogs out of the way despite the pups going deaf and not hearing a recall today. Saw the same lot yesterday, in control, popping all 8 dogs back into a huge van in cages. Very different from a couple of walkers down here.

We also met a 6 month old lab puppy and I was sad, it was really overweight.
 

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I’ve not met many idiots thankfully, rural living has many benefits.
At the pub on Saturday I took some food out to people in the garden and was at their table when a long haired GSD leapt up from underneath it and bayed in my face. Amazingly I didn’t drop the food, maybe I could see deep down that he was only shouting, it made me jump though.
Then they beat it with fists and lead while yelling at it. ?‍♀️.

And there’s a couple who take their DA Great Dane into the (tiny) bar and hang on to its lead while it glares and intimidates any other dogs in there.
 

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I’ve not met many idiots thankfully, rural living has many benefits.
At the pub on Saturday I took some food out to people in the garden and was at their table when a long haired GSD leapt up from underneath it and bayed in my face. Amazingly I didn’t drop the food, maybe I could see deep down that he was only shouting, it made me jump though.
Then they beat it with fists and lead while yelling at it. ?‍♀️.

And there’s a couple who take their DA Great Dane into the (tiny) bar and hang on to its lead while it glares and intimidates any other dogs in there.
I never understand why people take their dogs to the pub. It's not as if you are going to live there. Leave them at home. Will do no harm.
 

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Came across a very reactive poo cross yesterday. I’d just retrieved Bear who’d zipped off from my OH who does a different walk then meets up with me and the pups. He’d come to find me as usual. Mitch wanted to investigate the poodog and wasn’t coming away-definitely need to work on this, it’s completely unacceptable. The lady was frantically asking if they were neutered while her husband half strangled the dog to get it away from us. I was the bad owner, bit of a dilemma, Bear on lead, pups loose, my OH thankfully appeared and Mitch ran up to him. They normally have a quick sniff then move on which I’ve been massively encouraging.
 

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I never understand why people take their dogs to the pub. It's not as if you are going to live there. Leave them at home. Will do no harm.

Socialisation? New situations? We’ve taken ours a couple of times to the garden of a pub near their woods walk. The OH fancied a pint in the sunshine and the first time was literally to give them the new situation on quite a busy day. They couldn’t have cared less, they just wanted the crisps! On holiday last year, we had to take Bear, couldn’t leave him in the accommodation alone. He wasn’t happy the first time, then just went to sleep under the table in the next one.
 

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Came across a very reactive poo cross yesterday. I’d just retrieved Bear who’d zipped off from my OH who does a different walk then meets up with me and the pups. He’d come to find me as usual. Mitch wanted to investigate the poodog and wasn’t coming away-definitely need to work on this, it’s completely unacceptable. The lady was frantically asking if they were neutered while her husband half strangled the dog to get it away from us. I was the bad owner, bit of a dilemma, Bear on lead, pups loose, my OH thankfully appeared and Mitch ran up to him. They normally have a quick sniff then move on which I’ve been massively encouraging.
I have to say I get very annoyed with people who allow their dogs to come up to ours for a quick sniff, but that's when we have ours next to us, either sitting or on leads. It is a bit different if no one has their dog close to them, but we teach ours that they stay with their own pack.
 

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I have to say I get very annoyed with people who allow their dogs to come up to ours for a quick sniff, but that's when we have ours next to us, either sitting or on leads. It is a bit different if no one has their dog close to them, but we teach ours that they stay with their own pack.

I’ve written about this before: it’s an area where it’s loose dogs mostly, I’ve met a few people who want to chat, but mostly I move my lot on, they’re very young still, 11 months and I think they’re mostly really good. I’ve moved them on every time there’s an on lead dog, despite me wanting to talk to the Finnish laphund etc. They will follow me or run on but I’d just put Bear on lead and I was caught between not wanting to go near an obviously reactive dog with Bear on the lead, so necessarily close to me, and wanting to grab Mitch who was unusually not doing as asked. The youngsters mostly stay together. Had I not had Bear, it would have been easier.
 

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I never understand why people take their dogs to the pub. It's not as if you are going to live there. Leave them at home. Will do no harm.


We take ours to the pub, cafes, dog friendly shops, garden centres, anywhere where they are allowed basically. You never know what life will throw at you and if you need to ask for help from somewhere, in an emergency, you don't want to have to deal with an agitated dog as well. They enjoy it, too, especially if it involves bacon sandwiches
 
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We take ours to the pub, cafes dig friendly shops, garden centres, anywhere where they are allowed basically. You never know what life will throw at you and if you need to ask for help from somewhere, in an emergency, you don't want to have to deal with an agitated dog as well. They enjoy it, too, especially if it involves bacon sandwiches

Exactly. Ours go everywhere with us (bar shopping).
 

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I never understand why people take their dogs to the pub. It's not as if you are going to live there. Leave them at home. Will do no harm.

My pup loves the pub, it is more or less at the bottom of the garden, the landlady has a Westie puppy and her and Bunny play for hours. It has got Bunny used to people and sitting quietly and means that I can spend more time with her.
 

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Exactly. Ours go everywhere with us (bar shopping).


The only shop ours go into really is Pets at Home but it does mean that they know how to behave in a supermarket. Otherwise, they have learned to sit quietly by a table, indoors/
outdoors, ignore other dogs, people approaching the table with food/drinks and wait until we have finished for a tid-bit or 2.
Cautionary tale though; do not give your dog cheesy chips, or they will not be happy with plain chips ever again:D:D:D. Lesson learned with Rottweilers.
 

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I’ve written about this before: it’s an area where it’s loose dogs mostly, I’ve met a few people who want to chat, but mostly I move my lot on, they’re very young still, 11 months and I think they’re mostly really good. I’ve moved them on every time there’s an on lead dog, despite me wanting to talk to the Finnish laphund etc. They will follow me or run on but I’d just put Bear on lead and I was caught between not wanting to go near an obviously reactive dog with Bear on the lead, so necessarily close to me, and wanting to grab Mitch who was unusually not doing as asked. The youngsters mostly stay together. Had I not had Bear, it would have been easier.
At the risk of sounding difficult. I don’t let my perfectly good natured dogs approach other dogs on walks. Even if we are out in very doggy orientated places. I sit them up to the side, Scout gets the lead slipped on as he’s a year old and sometimes forgets his manners. It does seem a couple of times now you’ve had issues so maybe if the other dog is on a lead you definitely shouldn’t let them approach? I find it easier to decide who they can approach and who not by applying a blanket ban.
 

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At the risk of sounding difficult. I don’t let my perfectly good natured dogs approach other dogs on walks. Even if we are out in very doggy orientated places. I sit them up to the side, Scout gets the lead slipped on as he’s a year old and sometimes forgets his manners. It does seem a couple of times now you’ve had issues so maybe if the other dog is on a lead you definitely shouldn’t let them approach? I find it easier to decide who they can approach and who not by applying a blanket ban.

I was trying, C! I'd just captured Bear who was therefore on lead right next to me, I'd just finished speaking to a bloke whose dog was trying to hump Mitch-I had just asked him if he'd seen Bear when Bear came round the corner. Mitch ran back to the T junction where the reactive dog had appeared (didn't hear them approach) and I didn't want to approach the reactive dog with Bear. Mitch came away as soon as A appeared. I don't think I could have done more, tbh. The only other time we've seen a reactive dog, they went on the lead and past asap.

At the risk of sounding difficult. I don’t let my perfectly good natured dogs approach other dogs on walks. Even if we are out in very doggy orientated places. I sit them up to the side, Scout gets the lead slipped on as he’s a year old and sometimes forgets his manners. It does seem a couple of times now you’ve had issues so maybe if the other dog is on a lead you definitely shouldn’t let them approach? I find it easier to decide who they can approach and who not by applying a blanket ban.

I was trying, C! I'd just captured Bear who was therefore on lead right next to me, I'd just finished speaking to a bloke whose dog was trying to hump Mitch-I had just asked him if he'd seen Bear when Bear came round the corner. Mitch ran back to the T junction where the reactive dog had appeared (didn't hear them approach) and I didn't want to approach the reactive dog with Bear. Mitch came away as soon as A appeared. I don't think I could have done more, tbh. The only other time we've seen a reactive dog, they went on the lead and past asap.

Edit to say, I am very sensitive to owners with reactive dogs, given Zak’s history and how careful we had to be walking him. If I could have grabbed Mitch, I would have done, obviously. He has been really good on walks, so this was (I hope) an anomaly. Also, there was no ‘letting’ him approach, the dog appeared from the path behind where Mitch had gone after I hauled the humper off him.
 
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