Lisa Walsh (dog breeder Norwich)

s4sugar said:
The numbers she was selling means the puppies, some at least, were bought in.



The charges were interesting and ones that could be proven - eg KC registration.
I want to know where the rest of the money went?
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I think ALOT have been bought in from other scumbags! :mad:
I wonder just how much money she's made, by the sound of it she's been doing this all her life! How sad! She will never be punished enough in my eyes, can only hope that some other force will make her suffer in the same way that she's forced these poor animals to suffer! xxxx
 
I wonder how long it will take the Insurance groups to cotton on to the fact that some dogs from iffy backgrounds such as these, are uninsurable or at the least the premiums are going to be sky high.

Sam I agree about the puppy love campaigns, they are amazing and people like that deserve all the support they can get.
 
s4sugar said:
But the KC were not involved - the puppies were not registered.
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Some were registered and the KC and the council were fully aware of her crimes but still gave her a licence to breed and still let her register dodgy litters! As I said before, there are so many different levels to this, wish I could tell you more. ;) xxx
 
Dobiegirl said:
I wonder how long it will take the Insurance groups to cotton on to the fact that some dogs from iffy backgrounds such as these, are uninsurable or at the least the premiums are going to be sky high.

Sam I agree about the puppy love campaigns, they are amazing and people like that deserve all the support they can get.
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Pet insurance will end up like car insurance i'm sure. Thankfully John Lewis have been great and very quick. After 1st year and Alfie's 1st op, my premiums went up by £11. I was expecting a lot more so at £32 a month we have another £10,000 but I dread to think what next years premiums will be now! :(
 
PLEASE READ....
I am currently collecting victim stories to help out PuppyLove Campaigns. We can get your story onto the website for all to see. Have a look at some of the sad stories here.....http://www.puppylovecampaigns.org/yourstories.shtml

Alfie's story is on there & also 1 of his sisters 'Bella', thankfully Bella is doing ok at the moment. Some of the other poor souls have not been so lucky!
If we get more stories/reports out there in the public eye it will help raise more awareness for others & you will be educating other families that read your story & it will make a difference to any decisions they make. Helping others to avoid the mistakes we made & not have to go through the nightmares that we have been through is a positive thing to do, we all need to stick together to fight this awful trade.
Unfortunately the more people buy from these unsuitable sources, the more Puppy Farming is kept alive.

If you are a victim & would like to help, please contact me via Private Message & I will get back to you. Stories need to be as brief as possible but also detailed enough to educate others on what to look for. I can help you with the wording as I will be editing the stories to go straight onto the website after approvals. Or if you prefer I can write the story out for you if you give me all the details & together through email we can come up with an accurate account of your experience.
Once the story is ready to go on the site you will of course be able to view it & edit any details etc.

If you are reading this thread for the first time & think you are a victim of Puppy Farming or indeed Back Yard Breeding & pups sold at home, pet shops, if your newly purchased puppy is not well or shows signs of illness later on in it's life then please get in touch, we may be able to help.

My advice to anyone wanting the companionship of a loving animal is to go for a rescue. There are so many out there desperate for a loving forever home. Please consider it, you will get just as much love, if not more, from a rescued animal & you will have a properly vet checked animal too!

Big thanks to everyone supporting the fight against these scumbags.
Thanks for reading, please spread the word. ;)
 
Hello again - I just wondered if you managed to get in contact with that couple from Norwich ?? What did they say when you told them about Tobys legs ?? Did they seem surprised/upset - do you think they knew he was poorly before they got rid of him ?? X
 
ljsimsy said:
Hello again - I just wondered if you managed to get in contact with that couple from Norwich ?? What did they say when you told them about Tobys legs ?? Did they seem surprised/upset - do you think they knew he was poorly before they got rid of him ?? X
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Hi Lisa. Sorry not been in touch again yet, Kids are driving me mad already, :eek::eek::eek:
I'll email you tonight, I'm waiting on a call from T/S. Hope Toby is ok, send him big sloppy kisses from Alfie. xxxx :)
 
Hi all.
Just a quick post to say Alfie will be going in to have his 2nd total hip replacement this Wednesday. Not looking forward to it but it's got to be done. I'll post again to let you know how he gets on. Fingers crossed better than last time! :rolleyes: xxxx
 
Thanks Dobigirl. Cant wait till he is painfree, he will have his happy ending. Very thankful we are able to get him fixed up. XxxxxX
 
s4sugar said:
But the KC were not involved - the puppies were not registered.
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Some of the puppies are kc reg. its the bought in ones who are not, but the buyers do not know this. The whole set up is done as a "home" set up, a couple of pups a bitch. At Greenacres they also had the reg document from the council, the holy grail for the puppy dealer. When the licence department were made aware that they were in breach of the planning restrictions, to many dogs, selling pups not born on site, they issued a breeders, boarding kennel and pet shop licence!!!!.
The KC still had Lisa Walsh and Emily Braisher, ( the other name on the reg doc), and another 3 people reg at Greenacres months after they had been evicted and moved to Barnham Broom, they said only the breeder could change the address, and thats after all the complaints they had received and senior people being aware of the TS investigation. As there is such a demand for puppies and people are led by emotion, then "Puppy Farms" and "Dealers" should be regulated by DEFRA and all dogs, bitches and pups should be DNA tested and chipped just as other commercial bred animals are. Also the pups are taken away and loved, its the adult dogs, the nursing bitches the males who are shut away all the time, RSPCA quote: "its not a requirement to walk a dog". basic food and water thats it. Lots of issues here and the amount of cash generated means these people will continue until enforceable laws are put in place, traceability and accountability are the norm.
 
airias mum said:
Lots of issues here and the amount of cash generated means these people will continue until enforceable laws are put in place, traceability and accountability are the norm.
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Ain't that the truth :(

In my own breed in Germany, you only get the primary papers for a puppy if the breeding animals are microchipped, DNA tested and required health test results, a show grading and a working title and a breed survey (which cannot be passed or even entered, without the previous requirements).
That's just one breed in one country and it's administered by one breed club which holds a database which can be traced right back to the original dog so when health problems crop up, they can be isolated to certain lines.
Secondary papers still need the MCN, DNA test and health tests carried out.
Pups with secondary papers or no papers at all can only sell for peanuts and are not sought after.
They incentivise doing things right.
It's not perfect, but it's a lot better, and I cannot see why more cannot follow the European lead and it would earn them precious revenue if that is the main motivator.
 
"its not a requirement to walk a dog". basic food and water thats it.

Actually exercise twice daily OUT of the kennel for a reasonable period IS a requirement of both breeding and boarding licence issue,and quite right too.It is also a equirement that a bed area with soft bedding is provided with an area at least as big but preferably bigger for mobility whilst kennelled.Also that fresh water is in constant supply,that kennels are thoroughly cleaned twice daily. Artificial heating is another requirement.
 
Well that never happened at Greenacres and the licensing "spot checks" never picked up on it. Also the space allowance was no where near that, and they were happy with the 30 plus adult dogs. Unfortunately the officer assigned was taken in by these con artists, Lisa Walsh has been in this business for over 20yrs, and once they had given them the full license November 2011, despite visits to them from the police and concerns raised by the public, planning, and the owner of the site, they would not back down, they just granted more licenses to cover the extra dogs and puppies alone in cages, when questioned why they had more dogs and puppies, She told them she was looking after dogs for a friend and selling her pups for her. And the RSPCA said they could not act, as food and water supplied, and not exercised is not a reason to act. It wasnt until T/S and the police raided the place in April 2012, they had also been early 2011, that any notice was taken. Still no action taken, even after the waste bins were removed July 2012. It seems different councils take different approaches.
 
I thought the rspca were involved in the updated animal welfare act so they could do something before animal's were in a bad way. Just providing basic needs food,water & shelter isn't really acceptable especially for a commercial breeder. I do think its disgusting that nothing is done about these puppy farms & authorities that give them licenses.
 
The RSPCA and the licensing council seem to almost give that witch credit. When I spoke to them, the RSPCA said quote "we've known what's been going on at Greenacres Farm for quite a while and we are as frustrated as you are but our hands are tied. If what we see on checks is satisfactory then there is nothing we can do" I was gobsmacked to say the least! Their hands are tied to that cup of tea she was slurping whilst on the phone me thinks! :mad:
The council said they've had no complaints, liars!! I'm sure some backhanding is going on there!! :confused:
Even the KC said they believe she is a responsible breeder! Well, I now have proof that the KC have let her register some very suspicious looking litters over the years. I got it all in black & white and will be reporting it all first thing in the morning! That evil cow is not as smart as she thinks she is, infact she's rather stupid! :D
The KC will have quite a few questions to answer too! They are letting her get away with this, and this is just 1 dealer, imagine how many more are allowed to do this. If the KC can't even spot the obvious puppy farmers, then what is the point of them? They've allowed big well known puppy farms on to the credited breeders list and even when I pointed this out to them, those farms are still on there! I'm so angry with them I think I may pop!!

Lets just hope that the courts will make a big example out of this case and let other puppy farmers know that we will not tolerate this. There is SO much evidence pilling up but very frustrating as a lot will not even be used in court! Shocking! But I will make sure that all evidence is seen by the barrister and jury. It will all come out in court eventually. I wish we could film it somehow, would make excellent viewing! :D

There are so many victims doing all they can to try and help get this cow locked up, some of us are getting great results. I just hope all our hard work will make a difference.

Hopefully one day our country will follow others and change our outdated and ridiculous laws and regulations. We need to seriously crack down on this, its already out of control and been going on for far too long now. At least other countries are trying to make a difference, what does good old England do? Nothing! Makes me sick!

All we can do is keep campaigning and lobbying the government. Get the message out there and educate the public to change the way we buy animals. Big task but I hold on to the hope that one day it will all end and there will be no more suffering. xxxx
 
We are informed that Lisa Walsh, who sold sick puppies from Greenacres Farm Tarsburgh Norfolk has relocated to Woodrising Road, Wood Rising, nr Watton. Walsh is due in court very soon but if anyone hears of sick pups being sold please let us know, you are our eyes and ears.

Pups sold previously were Labs and Westies, be aware and spread the word.


This is from Puppy love campaigns this morning.
 
Dobiegirl said:
We are informed that Lisa Walsh, who sold sick puppies from Greenacres Farm Tarsburgh Norfolk has relocated to Woodrising Road, Wood Rising, nr Watton. Walsh is due in court very soon but if anyone hears of sick pups being sold please let us know, you are our eyes and ears.

Pups sold previously were Labs and Westies, be aware and spread the word.


This is from Puppy love campaigns this morning.
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:D :D Thanks for this hun, you beat me to it, lol :D :D
Any new reports, please contact Mr Gary Young ( Heading the investigations ) directly at Trading Standards or you can contact PuppyLove or myself (pm's only please) or if your on facebook there is a group dedicated to this case where you will find many more victims and possible litter mates. I can also give you help & support if your little one is or has been poorly but please make sure you visit your vets regularly and more importantly, make sure you have adequate insurance to cover all possible health issues. Most dogs coming from this so called breeder are very sick indeed. Our dog, now nearly 2 years old is still recovering from having both hips replaced due to being born with the devastating disease Hip Dysplasia, 3 of his sisters also have it and 2 have Elbow Dysplasia aswel. The total cost of treatment was over £20,000 !!! So please, please get the best insurance you can afford, glad I did!! PLEASE be careful what you write on public pages as the court case is approaching fast, we don't want anything to go wrong now. My advice is to contact Mr Young in the 1st instance who will advise you legally. The phone number you need is 01603 224400 ( ask for his office), and his email is gary.young@norfolk.gov.uk Please report and help us victims and the authorities crack down on scumbags like this. Also visit http://www.puppylovecampaigns.org/ to find out what else you can do to help fight Puppy Farming. Thanks. xxx :) P.S - Despite a lot of swelling on his bone, Alfie is doing great with his new hips! It's such a relief after all this time of restrictions and worry, to see him running around like a nutter is amazing! So happy for him, although I do wish he would slow down a tad but I don't think he will ever be any different, he loves life, play, running, jumping and of course food! lol He's on a diet as he weighed in at 38kg :eek: I was mortified, but, he had no exercise for 6 weeks and the weight just pilled on! He is a gannet, like most Labs :D
 
We Bought two pups from this lady in November 2011, Gunner and Henry, Gunner is fine we did get his K.C reg papers Gunner being( Prince Avenger KC Name ) Henry has had a hip opp which both hips had to be replaced ive read some of the posts which has made very concerned for both of them please if I can help in any way please contact me on 01493 719647
( ive only found this because I wanted another pup thank god )
 
If you want a lab puppy go for a breeder who does hip, elbow, eye tests on breeding stock (IE both the sire and the dam) and who shows or works their dogs, even if lightly. And someone with a kennel name/prefix rather than chucking out random names.
 
CaveCanem said:
If you want a lab puppy go for a breeder who does hip, elbow, eye tests on breeding stock (IE both the sire and the dam) and who shows or works their dogs, even if lightly. And someone with a kennel name/prefix rather than chucking out random names.
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We got the KC reg back and it shows 28 FTC but how true reading what we have is correct even from the KC?
 
Gunpot said:
We Bought two pups from this lady in November 2011, Gunner and Henry, Gunner is fine we did get his K.C reg papers Gunner being( Prince Avenger KC Name ) Henry has had a hip opp which both hips had to be replaced ive read some of the posts which has made very concerned for both of them please if I can help in any way please contact me on 01493 719647
( ive only found this because I wanted another pup thank god )
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Please PM me, I may be able to help you. I am a victim too. x
 
So sorry to hear of your dogs health issues. Mine has had both hips replaced too as you probably know from previous posts!
I'm sorry to say but any paperwork you've got will probably be fraudulent. Just going on the name Prince Avenger, I can tell you that your litter was one of many where the breeding bitch has been over-bred. This breeding bitch only had a litter in November 2010 and your litter in September 2011 so twice in 10 months, poor girl! Its looks like a very suspicious litter that has been recorded and the mother is now 5 years old, wonder just how many litters the poor girl has had in her miserable life. You need to contact Gary Young please an report this see above post. The trial is NOT including any animal cruelty charges at the moment but if trading standards get enough complaints they might actually do something! I was in contact with one of your littermates, she has a black dog, very bad hip dysplasia but unfortunately we've lost touch somehow so no idea of the outcome of the poor dog. PM me and we can discuss this more. x
 
Im so sorry to hear about your dog Gunpot. please get in touch with Sam, the more people that come forward the better and will hopefully stop this cruel individual from bringing more misery to dogs and people.
 
windand rain said:
I did wonder and I keep repeating you are entitled to your opinion so I hope no one is going to be rude to each other.
You would appear not to have read or understood, I am not sure which, the basis on which I have made my decision I am prepared to accept that you and some others prefer to spay and take the risk of your dog dying during unnecessary surgery or from cancer or from the many other diseased that spaying can cause including a tenuous link to diabetes and a stronger link to thyroid issues.
The chance of a dog dying of pyometra surgery is 0.25% I dont have the figures for those who die of pyo itself so I cannot comment but less than a quarter of bitches will get pyo according to the statistics I have seen.
Or those that die during spay surgery so again I cannot answer that one just that every surgery carries a risk on its own
All I am asking is tha people are given the whole story before they are asked to decide on neutering their animals
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Well I tend to agree with you in part.Over forty years of having multiple dogs,one Pyo ever,spotted and dealt with.I tend to try and get the older girls done at seven or eight,just in case they might get a pyo when ancient.No,never ever had a mammary cancer,my line is excellent from that point of view at very long lived for the breed.Just recently a very promising mini bitch of barely six months was spayed by some vile vet and her stupid owner,sickmaking.By all means spay rescues..but please don`t buy one of my superbly bred dogs and spay them so young.Would anyone recommend a hystorectomy on a five year old girl..of course not,same difference.
 
Hi all. :)
The trial starts on 18th November & will end on 6th December. There are 67 witnesses but not all of them will be used. Most statements will just be read out by someone in court.
Even I might not be called, i'll be well gutted if i'm not called but on a plus note, anyone who is not a witness can go watch the trial, and then can be there everyday if they want! I'd like to have my say in court but i'd also like to watch the evil one squirm! I'll have my say at the end of all this anyway (watch this space) ;)
We're still waiting to find out who will be called in and apparently it is being chased up today. I'm glad we have a date so soon as I was thinking it was going to be dragged out till January!
So, that is your next update. I hope all this waiting around will be worth it. XxxxX
 
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