Liver issue/grumpy?

[NinjaPony]

Glad he’s feeling better and the liver is ok too. I sympathise with the syringing issue, I’ve got to give metaformin tablets twice a day in a syringe as he was going off his feed with them in the feed, and it’s very messy and difficult as he hates it! I mix the powder in with some water and a teaspoon of sweetened yoghurt to make it slightly nicer but I still end up with dribble everywhere and a furious pony.

Has his behaviour changed since he has been on the gastroguard out of interest?

 

[SO1]

Do they have them in the states but I have seen horses that do not like being suringed use worming bits very successfully.

It’s not about the money either lol. Given the current bills I’m racking up that’s the least of my worries. I do not think the barn hands will get a syringe into him. I do not want to risk half of it going out of his mouth which I suspect is what will happen.

 

[Elno]

Yes I used to feed it post event. It doesn’t exist here. Only releve. Shame. But thanks for reminding me as releve worked well for him as a daily feed. Cost here- $48 a bag. LOL.

I think you have very low prices on horse feed in the UK, but was a bit surprised that the prices in US are so high. In Sweden $48 a bag is pretty standard for a premium hard feed. As an example a bag of Equijewel cost $75 and D&H Build up mix $51 a bag. Saracen Releve is sold for $46 here.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

It depends on the feed in the US, but in general the UK has lower prices when it comes to a lot of horse stuff.

 

[Michen]

Glad he’s feeling better and the liver is ok too. I sympathise with the syringing issue, I’ve got to give metaformin tablets twice a day in a syringe as he was going off his feed with them in the feed, and it’s very messy and difficult as he hates it! I mix the powder in with some water and a teaspoon of sweetened yoghurt to make it slightly nicer but I still end up with dribble everywhere and a furious pony.

Has his behaviour changed since he has been on the gastroguard out of interest?

Apparently yes but that could be because he gets an evening feed out of night check now! I sense a change. I can’t tell you what, it’s so subtle and maybe it’s because I’m looking for it.. a slight softening perhaps. But it could just be because I’m spoiling him rotten, I mean I always have adored him that’s why he’s here. But the fall and this other stuff just makes me even more sure to show him.

Ps yes exactly re syringe. It’s just messy and difficult and I’d worry more would go on the barn hands clothing than in his mouth. I need to know he’s getting that medication if I go away.

 

[Michen]

Ok I see a definite change for sure. Myself and an other boarder turn out two out in the indoor for some play and horsey time. It was still boggles way or the highway but he was definitely softer in his manner to the other horse.

Hacked him today and he’s still buzzy and bouncy and furious any time the other horse tries to get a nose in front though

 

[Denali]

Denalil I do not understand your point. Excuses by who/what? I am certainly not making excuses, I am merely saying he is more likely to successfully get his meds through feed than barn hands trying to syringe it into his mouth when he's tricky.

As for my horse suffering, I'm fairly sure nothing I've done up until this point is to do anything other than ensure he is ok. I have no idea what you are trying to insinuate but it isn't coming off very well and I'd prefer not to continue to engage with you on it, so over and out from me

I wasn’t trying to be an ass. I’m thrilled to hear his liver is good. I just don’t play with medications and pony will take said medication. I got the feeling from your posts that his resistance was a reason not to treat. For that I’m sorry if I read it wrong. You may want to also explore a hay analysis. Here in the states vitamin E and selenium is common as well as a magnesium supplement.

Blood work and hay analysis would confirm that.

I also apologize for my getting my back up when you laughed and said money is t an issue. The horse culture in the US now makes me shake my head because it’s no longer about horsemanship. As a moneyed person I was still expected to be hands on. So again I apologize.

 

[Michen]

For the avoidance of doubt, I am not “laughing” and saying money is no issue. I am not made of the stuff. But I will do whatever I have to do financially to ensure he has whatever he needs. There’s nothing funny about it- just the commitment to my horse.

And all the horsemanship in the world is not a substitute for vet care, when it’s really needed.

 

[Fieldlife]

I wasn’t trying to be an ass. I’m thrilled to hear his liver is good. I just don’t play with medications and pony will take said medication. I got the feeling from your posts that his resistance was a reason not to treat. For that I’m sorry if I read it wrong. You may want to also explore a hay analysis. Here in the states vitamin E and selenium is common as well as a magnesium supplement.

Blood work and hay analysis would confirm that.

I also apologize for my getting my back up when you laughed and said money is t an issue. The horse culture in the US now makes me shake my head because it’s no longer about horsemanship. As a moneyed person I was still expected to be hands on. So again I apologize.

See I think the posts got a little muddled. As using syringed and treatment to mean different things.

He was getting the GastroGuard syringed into his mouth daily by an another livery who is a vet too.

It’s the liver supplements (that are supplements rather than vet treatments) that are being added to feeds. It’s those supplements he’s not so keen to eat. And OP doesn’t think yard staff syringing them a good idea.