More revelations on AHAR

Mollylittle said:
Have it. Glad to see Pony is confirmed to be under continued veterinary care after months of neglect.also great to see the investigation is ongoing.Hopefully the department will finally cop on what a cruelty laden place AHAR really is
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You'd have thought that would have happened by now, if that were the case.
 
I would suggest that Chocolate Moonbeam has some form of direct link to the charity.

I would also suggest that all this is turning into is a slagging off match on the internet...

ETA: I am not defending anyone, or suggesting that any cruelty or otherwise is called for. This isn't the place...
 
Damnation said:
I would suggest that Chocolate Moonbeam has some form of direct link to the charity.

I would also suggest that all this is turning into is a slagging off match on the internet...

ETA: I am not defending anyone, or suggesting that any cruelty or otherwise is called for. This isn't the place...
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I'm not sure that is the case. I think most hho users are fairly genned up that people buying up animals at fairs and markets does not make them a good rescue whatever else goes on ;). I don't really see how that is questionable. I also don't think it is a bad thing that people are then encouraged to question practices at some of the charities they might want to support.
 
Damnation said:
I would suggest that Chocolate Moonbeam has some form of direct link to the charity.

I would also suggest that all this is turning into is a slagging off match on the internet...

ETA: I am not defending anyone, or suggesting that any cruelty or otherwise is called for. This isn't the place...
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You would suggest wrong.
 
Mollylittle said:
you are right. I shall refrain from further responding to any moonbeams, chocolate or otherwise. I just can't stand ignorance.
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It can be difficult, but you its just turning into a very circular argument from someone who is obviously directly linked to this "charity". As they say, you can't educate pork :D
 
ester said:
I'm not sure that is the case. I think most hho users are fairly genned up that people buying up animals at fairs and markets does not make them a good rescue whatever else goes on ;). I don't really see how that is questionable. I also don't think it is a bad thing that people are then encouraged to question practices at some of the charities they might want to support.
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Oh I see no harm in that, and if all of this is true about AHAR then its disgusting, but its just turning into a really circular argument with someone who appears to be very determined that neglecting horses is just fine and dandy!
 
ester said:
I'm not sure that is the case. I think most hho users are fairly genned up that people buying up animals at fairs and markets does not make them a good rescue whatever else goes on ;). I don't really see how that is questionable. I also don't think it is a bad thing that people are then encouraged to question practices at some of the charities they might want to support.
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which is one of the problems going on at AHAR. Anytime anyone seems to be asking a question that can be seen as even a little bit as criticism, the asker gets blocked and usually some ahar admin will post a nasty comment, which often includes words like vile, hater and troll.I support my local rescues only.and they are happy to answer any questions related to any animal in their care, currently or in the past.AHAR does no such thing.Big red flag
 
They did find someone there taking pictures, they showed her on their cctv, complaining someone was taking pictures without having notified them. Maybe that was the journalist??
 
Damnation said:
Oh I see no harm in that, and if all of this is true about AHAR then its disgusting, but its just turning into a really circular argument with someone who appears to be very determined that neglecting horses is just fine and dandy!
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Excuse me? Where do you get off suggesting I think neglect of horses or any animal is fine and dandy?

I would however like to see the evidence of this so called neglect.

A horse in a field with a club foot isn't what I would call neglect. Neither is a gosling with a cast on it's leg not in a pond neglect or cruelty either.

It's a rescue, animals come in who have been neglected, who are cruelty cases, of course you are going to see some awful sights there. Skeletal horses with wounds, overlong feet etc etc. Not all of them are going to be cured in 5 minutes.
 
stormox said:
They did find someone there taking pictures, they showed her on their cctv, complaining someone was taking pictures without having notified them. Maybe that was the journalist??
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Maybe, doesn't explain how the photos ended up on the exposed page a week or so before the article came out though.

What journalist would do that?
 
Dobiegirl said:
The evidence is there for everyone to see but you apparently, take off those rose colour spectacles and have another look.
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Don't worry, I can understand you being hacked off that all your complaints, exposes, wild claims etc have all come to nothing.

Mind you, after all this time, I would be questioning myself and wondering if any of it was real.
 
ah.but I base my assessment on the state of a horse that has been in ahar's care for almost a full year and has deteriorated in a way that would never happened had it been treated.There are numerous ways on the web to find out how much a hoof grows per month..heck you can even ask here.Than look at the hoof today and do the calculations. Now, this is a circular argument and I am not going to entertain your rose colored views any further.I don't even like chocolate..;-)
 
It must pee you off that you cant report us or get the army to send us nasty threatening pms, everyone on this thread is not involved with the expose page but its funny how reading all the replies from people who have had dealings with Ahar and none of it is good. Doesnt that strike you as odd.
 
I notice you haven't replied to my comment on the other horses also in the field.

But anyone who can't see that an invited journo is unlikely to get the full story in this situation is a bit odd in my estimation anyway. The same that it is hard to take anyone who states that was a luxury piece of land truthfully.

but yes Molly, plenty of hoof geeks on here :p
 
Dobiegirl said:
It must pee you off that you cant report us or get the army to send us nasty threatening pms, everyone on this thread is not involved with the expose page but its funny how reading all the replies from people who have had dealings with Ahar and none of it is good. Doesnt that strike you as odd.
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Not really, there is only half a dozen or so people commenting on this thread. Hardly masses of anti AHAR people when you consider the number of people on this forum.
 
I went when it was at the previous place, havent been to this one, but it is open every saturday afternoon from 2-6. Strictly no cameras allowed and no wandering off looking where you arent told you can go.... I know a lot of people who have been, or are/were volunteers. Even volunteers arent allowed cameras in there. are told to leave them in the car.
 
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