Newton Stud slurry death

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holydaysandholidays said:
It seems that the horses owner has been relentlessly pursuing the stud over facebook in a really awful way - which is neither dingnified nor honourable To mislead her sympathetic audience in this way has not gone down well .. I've followed it on facebook and didn't like the 'trolling' tone from the start. This has confirmed my unease about this, The rest is pure speculation, we don't know the other side and it seems the stud has been much more professional in not responding to the awful and uninformed comments that have been made by people who weren't there. Sadly this appears to be all about money, the stud accepted liability from the start even under the horrific circumstances of the fire. What happened to #bekind
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Interesting that blackhathorse and stretchybetty made accounts within minutes of one another and have been posting on the same threads all day.... or perhaps I’m overly suspicious ?‍♀️
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Suspect it is the Stud or staff.
 
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holydaysandholidays said:
It seems that the horses owner has been relentlessly pursuing the stud over facebook in a really awful way - which is neither dingnified nor honourable To mislead her sympathetic audience in this way has not gone down well .. I've followed it on facebook and didn't like the 'trolling' tone from the start. This has confirmed my unease about this, The rest is pure speculation, we don't know the other side and it seems the stud has been much more professional in not responding to the awful and uninformed comments that have been made by people who weren't there. Sadly this appears to be all about money, the stud accepted liability from the start even under the horrific circumstances of the fire. What happened to #bekind
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B*llocks.

If that was my horse I would have 'relentlessly pursued the stud' and so would anyone with integrity who loved their horse. Your post is ridiculous nonsense. If your aim is to defend the stud, congrats, you're making things much worse for them.
 
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INDIA1999 said:
Suspect it is the Stud or staff.
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SadKen said:
B*llocks.

If that was my horse I would have 'relentlessly pursued the stud' and so would anyone with integrity who loved their horse. Your post is ridiculous nonsense. If your aim is to defend the stud, congrats, you're making things much worse for them.
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Blackhathorse said:
But it was a huge fire and a terrible emergency and theres definitely been some misleading information. The stud didn't just allow this beautiful horse to drown.. it was let out in an emergency due to a massive fire. Have you ever been in a fire with horses? your comments are incredibly aggressive with no compassion for the stud staff who must have been terrified.[/QUOTE
There were horses either side of a huge stack of hay bales in the same building...the hay caught fire, presumably spontaneous combustion which anyone with half a brain knows is a strong possibility. To have horses in such close proximity is foolhardy at best, incompetent & negligent at worst. And to turn horses out without checking the environment is safe is just as stupid.
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The Fuzzy Furry said:
Indeed.

Message to all those who have joined today to post on this thread, could you possibly be a little more clear, use paragraphs and learn to use the quote function in the right way?

Thanks..... do carry on....
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And maybe include whose side you are on :p as it really isn't clear from some, though they seem angry enough to be on a side. .
 
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teapot said:
The same Die Callas that at the time was reported to have died unexpectedly in the field?

Also, why's a stud yard got an open pit, regardless of content? H&S nightmare.
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YES - the same Die Callas! and absolutely why an open pit ... operated commercially
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Oh no I was really hoping it wasn't that how awful:( I would be devastated poor horse poor woman
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Thank you ... it has been devastating ... but I hope we can find justice for all the others...!
 
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INDIA1999 said:
Oh gosh I remember that. Didn't they create an on line competition to name her foal or similar but called it Something Dead? It was all over Facebook.
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Yes they did. The lady purchased semen and when her vet examined it she was told it was mostly dead. She, quite correctly, reported this to Elite Stallions who were very dismissive so she reported it direct to the stud that had supplied it. Subsequently the mare scanned in foal which she again reported to Elite only to have a competition launched by Elite & Anna Ross to name the foal born to dead semen. Pretty poor taste and will put off a lot of breeders from using Elite Stallions.

I also know of someone whose mare came back from Newton Stud and tested positive for R Equi so I do know that those reports are true.
 
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Yes they did. The lady purchased semen and when her vet examined it she was told it was mostly dead. She, quite correctly, reported this to Elite Stallions who were very dismissive so she reported it direct to the stud that had supplied it. Subsequently the mare scanned in foal which she again reported to Elite only to have a competition launched by Elite & Anna Ross to name the foal born to dead semen. Pretty poor taste and will put off a lot of breeders from using Elite Stallions.

I also know of someone whose mare came back from Newton Stud and tested positive for R Equi so I do know that those reports are true.
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That's right. Was it Lockdown 1. I remember social media being rather up in arms.
 
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JaneSewell said:
YES - the same Die Callas! and absolutely why an open pit ... operated commercially

Thank you ... it has been devastating ... but I hope we can find justice for all the others...!
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Welcome Jane, I can't believe what you've been put through over this. So sorry for your loss and I hope your court settlement has enabled some closure.
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sport horse said:
I did hear that they have Rhodococcus Equi which if you google it could well be the cause of some of the reported deaths. I made this known to someone who had a horse at Newton, that person had said horse blood tested when it returned to them and it tested positive. This will be in the soil so a long term problem.
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Yes - my colt was treated for Rhodoccocus Equi - I was not informed and he died shortly after returning home...
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i think the person who closed the post is connected to the people involved in other ways though, the BD groups on FB are not administered by BD so will be prone to these kind of personal decisions.
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Muddywellies said:
I've seen this bubbling away on social media all weekend. Regardless of my thoughts, I think it a sad sign of the times when people publicly air their dirty laundry. I think it's a private matter between NS and the owner of the horse. The owner suffered a terrible and I'm guessing preventable loss, but it doesn't involve anyone else. If anyone is considering doing business with NS, it's up to them to visit, make their own enquiries and decide for themselves.
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I am astonished that anyone would think I was airing dirty laundry... a world class horse drowned in a slurry pit... that should never have been possible. I worked for the NFU ... that should never have been possible. I lost 2 more horses at the hands of Newton Stud... I know of many many more ... it is shameful!
 
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INDIA1999 said:
OUTRAGEOUS. It seems that taking out an 8 page pull out in advertising buys you heavily biased reporting from H&H this month and zero fact checking.
1. The fire at Newton Stud was not an inferno. It was well attended by Devon & Somerset Fire Brigade who had it under control. Their news report on it publicly available. It also says that animals had been turned out into the lane. Do your homework H&H. 2. The barn fire occurred in a barn where horses and hay were stored together! 3. The dressage horse was turned out into a field that HAS a lagoon WITHIN it as can clearly be seen on google earth. Do your homework H&H. 4. If she was seen to panic why did no member of staff do anything about it? 5. The gate was not simply unsecured. The gate was open. It had been left open by a member of staff and it was not checked to be open or closed by the member of staff placing Die Callas in the field. 6. The lagoon was not filled with slurry but it was filled with abattoir meat sludge, abattoir meat washings, abattoir poultry sludge, abattoir poultry washings, dairy processing sludge. Thousands of tons. 7. The "panicking"
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It was totally outrageous ... all those points need answering!
 
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