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I'd sooner hear about people who are a bit soppy so long as they are caring for their horses correctly.

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the soppy owners who over feed/over rug/treat them as humans/shut them in at night/feed them concentrates/feed them suplements/calmers/blah/blah/blah


oh of course....they are cared for "Correctly"!

how silly of me to think otherwise............

[/ QUOTE ]Erm, some horses need concentrates/rugging up.

I have a New Forest but I can't let her go through the winter without some sort of conditioner because she loses all her condition. I can't winter her out without a rug because she hates it! I've had her from two & it is not something that is through over-caring.

i've tried leaving her unrugged & without anything but hay the first winter I had her because she is a native but she started to look awful! It isn't a case of "treating them like humans" it is doing what is best for the individual horse or pony!!!

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as i own/show foresters, i find that hard to believe.....

your's must be stud bred to be so soft..

[/ QUOTE ]Yes, she was bred in the Cotswolds. But as she is perfect for me I don't care that she needs a little bit extra in return.

The only thing I do insist on is good manners & respect. I don't spoil her but I do look after her & if she needs a rug & hard feed through the winter then so be it.
 
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No wagon wheels sorry, but I've got an egg custard tart if you all want to fight over it?!
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Snowy say's he wants the custard, so you'd better let him have it or he'll get upset.
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Sorry, tell Snowy he was too late and I've eaten it!!!
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That is SO mean!
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Horses might not think like us, but if it gives their owners pleasure to think that way, and causes no harm then good luck to them

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Go with the voice of reason me thinks! and pour a big drink!
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Yep, pours wine and pulls up a chair
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the soppy owners who over feed/over rug/treat them as humans/shut them in at night/feed them concentrates/feed them suplements/calmers/blah/blah/blah

oh of course....they are cared for "Correctly"!

how silly of me to think otherwise............

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So that's what I have been doing wrong all this time! I should let my sensitive warmblood lose all his weight and look like a hat rack by leaving him out at night all winter fully clipped and just feed him hay
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D@mn it, I thought trying to keep some weight on over winter by putting two rugs on, keeping him in at night and feeding him a supplement and concentrates was what I was supposed to do
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Oh and I do spoil my horse with treats and fuss and do sometimes put human emotions on him but he is well looked after, is fit and has excellent stable manners and is normally very good to ride
 
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Well, if he wasn't so busy lazing on the bed he might have got here quicker and been able to have some!!
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Have got some giant chocolate buttons if he wants one of those - I bet he'd prefer those if you asked!

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Don't be silly, he's fast asleep now, dreaming his little head off. I'll have the giant chocolate buttons instead.
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Sorry JM07 I still want to know how you look after your Horse/horses, just out of interest really.

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after reading most replies...then badly!!!
 
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Well, if he wasn't so busy lazing on the bed he might have got here quicker and been able to have some!!
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Have got some giant chocolate buttons if he wants one of those - I bet he'd prefer those if you asked!

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Don't be silly, he's fast asleep now, dreaming his little head off. I'll have the giant chocolate buttons instead.
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But I wouldn't want to upset Snowy!!
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You better move quick...not many chocolate buttons left either
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Well I inherited a horse from someone who did not in anyway seem to think it was a person, she wrote pages of what she believed to be very informed equine psychology about the unfortunate animal. And it was still crap.
If the horse is treated appropriately (and a little too much care would seem to me on balance to be better than a lot too little) then the paradigm through which the carer views the situation seems to me to be irrelevant.
Since the horse doesn't care whether you call his rug a rug or his pyjamas, the only thing that matters is that he is neither too hot nor too cold, surely?
 
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the soppy owners who over feed/over rug/treat them as humans/shut them in at night/feed them concentrates/feed them suplements/calmers/blah/blah/blah

oh of course....they are cared for "Correctly"!

how silly of me to think otherwise............

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So that's what I have been doing wrong all this time! I should let my sensitive warmblood lose all his weight and look like a hat rack by leaving him out at night all winter fully clipped and just feed him hay
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D@mn it, I thought trying to keep some weight on over winter by putting two rugs on, keeping him in at night and feeding him a supplement and concentrates was what I was supposed to do
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Oh and I do spoil my horse with treats and fuss and do sometimes put human emotions on him but he is well looked after, is fit and has excellent stable manners and is normally very good to ride

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well, there you go...you learn something new every day.
 
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i am asking a genuine question...Why do folk assume horses/ponies have human traits?

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Continung with my inital thought on Anthropomorphism, it is often explained as a natural human tendancy. It's not just animals either, but inanimate objects too...i know i have certainly named a car, or begged something to work when it had broken down. I recall a tutor of mine once saying that we do it because it is a reflection of how we perceive ourselves.

Alot of us do it everyday, but (perhaps like yourself??) it has been looked up unkindly by some religons and beliefs.


Oh and incidentally, i think you OP could of been far better phrased if you were looking for a factual debate, rather than a slanging match.
 
You still havent told me, do you keep them out? ride them? ect ect.

You seem to judge us people who as far as I can see look after and care for their horses , that it would be intresting to see how you who judge us look after yours. Not so that we can judge you but as you obviously feel so strongly about it it me be interesting to hear what you do rather than just hear what you disagree with.
 
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So that's what I have been doing wrong all this time! I should let my sensitive warmblood lose all his weight and look like a hat rack by leaving him out at night all winter fully clipped and just feed him hay
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D@mn it, I thought trying to keep some weight on over winter by putting two rugs on, keeping him in at night and feeding him a supplement and concentrates was what I was supposed to do
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Oh and I do spoil my horse with treats and fuss and do sometimes put human emotions on him but he is well looked after, is fit and has excellent stable manners and is normally very good to ride

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well, there you go...you learn something new every day.

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Clearly sarcasm is lost on some people - no offence (as I don't know what your horses look like) but I would rather my horse didn't lose all his winter weight as looking like an RSPCA welfare case isn't good for human or animal (no anthropomorthism involved) so if that means I look after him badly in your eyes then oh well I'm sure I'll survive (and so will Bane!)
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Interesting point Fee.

I too have named a car (cracking Punto called Jim). Although 'he' came with that name and it stuck.

I have always been 'soppy'. I was so upset when my last mare died suddenly that I quit horses for 2 years.
I know lots of people wouldn't be that drastic and I might be different myself now that I am older but everyone is different
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You still havent told me, do you keep them out? ride them? ect ect.

You seem to judge us people who as far as I can see look after and care for their horses , that it would be intresting to see how you who judge us look after yours. Not so that we can judge you but as you obviously feel so strongly about it it me be interesting to hear what you do rather than just hear what you disagree with.

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Why do you not answer this as seem busy telling every one how they should not look at there horses like their human....so answer her please!
 
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JM07 - I'm sorry, but i see no question in the original post, only later after a few heated replies.

Shilasdar - go ahead, i wouldn't be posting if i didnt expect to discuss the things i write.

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Oh, I was just going to be evil.
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Interesting point Fee.

I too have named a car ( cracking Punto called Jim). Although 'he' came with that name.

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I think i have named every car i've owned
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I believe its human nature, prevelant in some more than others. I have no problem with it TBH as long as its not taken to an extreme.

Sorry to hear you lost your mare
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Horses are domesticated, end of. We have bred many of them to require the rugs etc that they need to survive... A horse cannot be 'kept' naturally as it is not natural to be kept.

As to why we attribute human emotions etc to horses, i agree with what other people are saying that it is due to the fact that people dont understand their behaviour so go for what they DO understand.

I agree with Fee_Fee you could have worded your OP better if you wanted a real debate rather than a b!tch fest.
 
tbh i dont really think anyone actually thinks there horse have human emotions and most people take very good care of there horse so what is the harm in them treating them as though they have human emotions horses to a certain extent have emotions similar to humans they become attached to certain people or other horses. giving a horse an extra rug or suppliments is not treating them as though they are human its giving them what they need to survive comfortably.

neither am i saying that people that dont put human emotions upon their horses (asuming from your previous post someone like yourself) arent taking care of there horses. i just think every situation is different and you cannot judge everyone based on one single encounter.
 
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