Should we see a difference yet?

So, op - after making a complete tw&t in supporting you initially - what news on mum and pups?

You'll know of course that recent weather conditions aren't conducive to having them outside - so I naturally assume that they ate now all warped up and warm inside. It would be nice to be reassured of this.

The weather will deteriorate again over the next fee days, with a major cold front moving down from the north. Again you'll be aware of this.

So update please as life is about to het a lot harder for those animals.
 
I know nothing about breeding dogs, but I can't imagine for one minute that it's healthy to keep an adult dog outside in a crate designed to be used indoors ,covered in blankets and a horse rug. Let alone week old puppies! Initially I thought people were being rather harsh on the OP, but now I realise she just hasn't thought this through at all.
 
I was hoping when I came on here this morning that the op would have been on and updated with pictures of Amber and puppies moved into more suitable accommadation.

It was freezing last night and if they were out in that I dont give much for their chances of survival.
 
Dobiegirl said:
I was hoping when I came on here this morning that the op would have been on and updated with pictures of Amber and puppies moved into more suitable accommodation.

It was freezing last night and if they were out in that I don't give much for their chances of survival.
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As she said a little earlier, she's learning - and hopefully what she has learn't from this thread is that the dog and pups need to be inside - warm, dry and comfortable. I have every confidence they are now inside.
 
amymay said:
I have every confidence they are now inside.
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I really hope so amymay... the weather is so awful, and its freezing at night
Shame she won't put our minds at rest, as I know pretty much everyone has been very worried about these pups and the less than ideal conditions.

The majority have taken her a face value, and taken the time to give excellent advise - the least she can do is let us know she's addressed the living arrangements...
 
Still no reply to those all those of us concerned about these pups? No justifications...or preferabley proof that improvements have been made? Come on Eriskayowner, your silence is serving to prove only how little you care.
 
Amazing, this post comes back to the top of the board and *POOF* as if by magic eriskayowner disappears offline again.
Maybe shes gone to take us some new photos :rolleyes:
 
Wow. i am totally shocked by some of the comments on this thread!! all Eriskayowner wanted was some advice but all she got was some horrible remarks!! :( people could have been a bit kinder!!!
 
friend of hers are you Lizzie? Have you seen the pictures of the bitch and pups?! Eriskayowner has not asked for advice, all she has done is ignore the advice given to her.
 
yes i am a friend of hers and i can tell you that the crate that amber and her puppies are in is HUGE! they have plenty of room in there and i know that the puppies will be EXTREMELY well looked after! :mad:
 
But the crate is outside, its freezing here and the wind,hail and rain will be blowing in, dont tell me Lizzie you think this is acceptable for week old pups being kept like this.
 
Lizzie :) said:
Wow. i am totally shocked by some of the comments on this thread!! all Eriskayowner wanted was some advice but all she got was some horrible remarks!! :( people could have been a bit kinder!!!
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Not as shocked as I am that someone thinks its ok to keep a bitch and new born pups like that. It was below freezing this morning.
 
well what is your problem then?!! yes, the puppies are outside but their crate is very well insulated :mad: all the puppies are healthy- surely thats the only thing that matters??!
 
Vizslak said:
friend of hers are you Lizzie? Have you seen the pictures of the bitch and pups?! Eriskayowner has not asked for advice, all she has done is ignore the advice given to her.
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Yes, Lizzie is a friend (and ex-student) of mine. I have not ignored the advice given to me. I have not read all of the posts on here because I do not feel that they are actually helpful.

The pups are still outside but it's WARM. Amber does not like being hot. If the house is more than about 15 degrees she will lie on the cold tiles downstairs anyway - she is happier outside than inside, and always has been. The puppies are in a WELL INSULATED pen, and are very warm and comfortable.

I have had many people looking at the puppies over the last week or so, and not one of them has raised concerns about how/where we are keeping them, and many of them (including the owners of the sire) has had litters of puppies before. We were actually recommended by a friend who has bred a few litters than keeping them outside (as she knows Amber) would be better for her and the pups.

I am grateful to all those people who have volunteered advice. I am also grateful to those who are concerned and have pointed out where we could make improvements. However, I know my dog and I know how she prefers to be kept.
 
Lizzie, from the pictures the crate is not "well insulated" it has a few horse rugs thrown over it, neither is it huge! Pups need heat for the first 2 weeks of their life, that is a fact, whether the bitch likes it cold or not.
Eriskayowner has been offered advice and has clearly chosen not to take it, just as she seems not to have done any research before her bitch whelped. You say the pups are healthy, and I really hope they are, but quite a way back in this thread a couple of us queried the weights of the pups as they seemed quite low, can you reassure us that they have substantially increased their weight now .
 
itsmylife said:
Not as shocked as I am that someone thinks its ok to keep a bitch and new born pups like that. It was below freezing this morning.
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It has not been below freezing here for weeks and weeks. I do not know what part of the country you are in, but it's not that cold here. I have spent all day in a t-shirt, and got too hot mucking out in that.
 
Please could you explain....because this has had me puzzled for days....how exactly a wire crate is insulated?! I am geniunely curious as to how it is possible to keep animals outside in a wire crate warm and dry.
Emma, it is not the bitch we are concerned about, new born pups should be kept much warmer than current weather conditions. Unless just down the road from me you have your own micro climate it is anything but warm, the last few nights have warranted the fires being lit here in the house, that isnt warm!
 
Notwithstanding the pups environment, because I give up on that one, it really is not advisable to have many people looking at the pups in the first couple of weeks of life, you should keep visitors to the absolute minimum both to avoid stressing the bitch, and to reduce the risk of infection.
Whilst you are online, I did ask earlier but you maybe missed the question, what are the hip scores of the sire and dam?
 
It would surprise me if that were the case, we have had a frost/I had to scrape the ice off my car in the last ten days (because I was concerned about Frank on the grass)

the forecast at mine tomorrow night is 2C and am only 20 miles away.
 
Not sure how it can not have been below freezing last night in Wellington, i am further south in devon and it certainly froze down here last night. and the forecast for this weekend is not warm. My horses are wearing rugs, my dogs are wearing waterproofs. so i cannot see how those puppies are comfortable.
 
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