Shwmae horse products

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Found it, here are all the contact details

For those who wanted advice on how to proceed in recovering your funds owed, to follow are the links to the various authorities/advisory services/court services which are available to help in such circumstances.

To make a Small Claims through the courts, follow the link below. It is easy to navigate and you can submit your claim on-line.

Note 1. It will cost you £25.00 but if the courts find in your favour, it is likely that they will add this money to your claim against the company.

https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview

Note 2. BEFORE you submit your online claim, you must write a formal letter to the company outlining your issue with them and stating your intention of action. Follow the link below for a sample letter which you can copy and paste, and fill in your relevant details.

Note 2 a) you will need to send your letter to the companies registered address, In the case of Shwmae Products Ltd, their registered address (which is on public record at Companies House) is POUND FARM , EDWYN RALPH, BROMYARD , HEREFORDSHIRE, HR7 4LU. Send your letter recorded delivery.

Note 2 b) on the “Which” consumer-rights action letter before small claims court claim, the time frame that they use is 28 days. Speaking only from my personal experience, if a dispute has been running for some time ie over a month or so, and I have yet to receive a satisfactory outcome to my problem, I give a period of say 14 working days from date of recorded delivered letter.

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-righ...ms-court-claim


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You can either call your local TS and CAB office details of which you will find on-line. Or to the ones below which I reported to.
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You are hoping that shwmae goes under?

Exactly what is this going to achieve?

The company has £2 issued capital. The shareholders liability is the amount of any share that has not been fully paid, so at most £2

If the company has little by way of assets, its likely they will cease trading, and no outstanding orders will be fulfilled and no-body will get refunded.

They can even start up the next day with a different company.

Result eh

In an insolvency situation the directors of a company may be found personally liable for breach of their statutory and common law duties. These duties may be enforced by the liquidator for the benefit of pooling assets for the company which can then be distributed amongst creditors.

The problem is that the company has to be in a sufficiently decent (but obviously insolvent) state in order to financially justify the liquidator going to that expense.
 
In an insolvency situation the directors of a company may be found personally liable for breach of their statutory and common law duties. These duties may be enforced by the liquidator for the benefit of pooling assets for the company which can then be distributed amongst creditors.

The problem is that the company has to be in a sufficiently decent (but obviously insolvent) state in order to financially justify the liquidator going to that expense.

I agree, directors can be found personally liable, however do you think that a 21yr old and a 18 yr old have any significant personal assets?

The most that will happen would be disqualification to act as director.

I also think its extremely unlikely that the company has any significant assets.

Even if directors are disqualified another company can be established with different directors.
 
For bankruptcy horses if they can be sold are considered assets. If old or unsaleable then they can be classed as pets but they ask for passports and documents to confirm age and also can ask a vet to check for ability to sell.
 
Also would their own horses be classed as assets and anything else brought for horses like transport be classed as assets

No.
Tbh, I don't like all this poking into their personal lives. Seems a bit unsavoury and makes those doing it look vindictive, and like they're enjoying watching others go under. Sorry.
Obviously I don't condone what they've done but seriously?
 
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I agree, directors can be found personally liable, however do you think that a 21yr old and a 18 yr old have any significant personal assets?

The most that will happen would be disqualification to act as director.

I also think its extremely unlikely that the company has any significant assets.

Even if directors are disqualified another company can be established with different directors.

Been following this via another forum and here, just to say as of their accounts submitted October 2012 they have zero cash to hand, £3000 in assets and the company itself is worth -£4500 ish.....this is all public record on 'company checker'
however no accounts have been submitted since 2012
 
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Tbh, I don't like all this poking into their personal lives. Seems a bit unsavoury and makes those doing it look vindictive, and like they're enjoying watching others go under. Sorry.
Obviously I don't condone what they've done but seriously?

Agree. I've watched this thread with a mixture of hilarity and horror at both sides.

Also, I'm not sure what point there is to posting the messages from FB - if it was a screenshot, fine - then they could add to the 'proof' that Shwmae are deleting negative posts, but as a typed out post, it's nothing, anyone can type out any message on here and just say Shwmae deleted it?

Not suggesting that is the case, as I've seen some of the posts on FB myself, but if the point is to gather proof then I don't think this method works.
 
Agree. I've watched this thread with a mixture of hilarity and horror at both sides.

Also, I'm not sure what point there is to posting the messages from FB - if it was a screenshot, fine - then they could add to the 'proof' that Shwmae are deleting negative posts, but as a typed out post, it's nothing, anyone can type out any message on here and just say Shwmae deleted it?

Not suggesting that is the case, as I've seen some of the posts on FB myself, but if the point is to gather proof then I don't think this method works.

People are not wanting to put other peoples names on this thread therefore screen shots I think would just cause issues.

I'm personally not interested in their lives, but it is a slap in the face for those people who are paying the rent if their house and not getting their goods wouldn't you say. Maybe it is a bit OT so perhaps should stop there. The bankruptcy is relevant as to what will happen if they go down this route how will those out of pocket get their money back? I've heard of companies doing this then opening up then following week new name new brand etc and leaving the debt behind.
 
People are not wanting to put other peoples names on this thread therefore screen shots I think would just cause issues.

No, I agree names should be omitted, but that could be blacked out with an editing programme quite easily? (I personally have no idea how (!), but I see it done quite regularly on here)
 
No.
Tbh, I don't like all this poking into their personal lives. Seems a bit unsavoury and makes those doing it look vindictive, and like they're enjoying watching others go under. Sorry.
Obviously I don't condone what they've done but seriously?

I agree, possibly don't feel as strongly as you but you have a good point

This thread is just playing in to their hands now, sooner or later they will have grounds to get it pulled or they will manage to turn it around their way by blaming the bad press on vindictive people and being believed.

If I read page 1 of this thread no way would I deal with the company

If I skipped to this page I would think a little differently I am afraid

If I was HHO I would be removing a couple of hundred pages and locking it so that it serves to be a reasonable warning for prospective customers of the company but isn't allowed to run and run.
 
I have been vocal on this thread about Shwmae's shoddy customer service and firmly believe they need a business overhaul - but I am uncomfortable with the rather personal information under scrutiny on this thread - rent on their house, personal and business debt, etc. - there is a line that should not be crossed no matter how aggrieved customers may feel.

It's a shame that people have felt the need to be quite so personal because it means that that this thread and those comments will play right into Shwmae's hands and allow them to either have the thread pulled or give them grounds for libel.

Shwmae have behaved in an appalling way towards some of their customers and they really need to clean up their act - but they do not deserve to have their family's personal finances discussed on a public forum.

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I agree, directors can be found personally liable, however do you think that a 21yr old and a 18 yr old have any significant personal assets?

The most that will happen would be disqualification to act as director.

I also think its extremely unlikely that the company has any significant assets.

Even if directors are disqualified another company can be established with different directors.

Persons who are disqualified as directors but are involved with a business may still be found in breach of the disqualification order/undertaking should their actions constitute being a shadow director.
 
No.
Tbh, I don't like all this poking into their personal lives. Seems a bit unsavoury and makes those doing it look vindictive, and like they're enjoying watching others go under. Sorry.
Obviously I don't condone what they've done but seriously?

I agree with you, but im coming at it from a position of them not owing me goods or monies, i dont know how id feel if if they did, the whole issue sounds like a bit of a train wreck
 
I just think it is so sad. They had the opportunity to build a cracking little business but they are their own worst enemy. All they needed to do was to communicate better with their customers and take customer complaints seriously and work to improve their product. Instead of that they are just digging themselves a hole and I can't see them getting out of it any time soon.
 
No.
Tbh, I don't like all this poking into their personal lives. Seems a bit unsavoury and makes those doing it look vindictive, and like they're enjoying watching others go under. Sorry.
Obviously I don't condone what they've done but seriously?

Agree. I've watched this thread with a mixture of hilarity and horror at both sides.

Also, I'm not sure what point there is to posting the messages from FB - if it was a screenshot, fine - then they could add to the 'proof' that Shwmae are deleting negative posts, but as a typed out post, it's nothing, anyone can type out any message on here and just say Shwmae deleted it?

Not suggesting that is the case, as I've seen some of the posts on FB myself, but if the point is to gather proof then I don't think this method works.

Absolutely agree with both of you.

Other family members are also being mentioned. I can not see why this thread has not been removed as T&C's are being clearly being breached
 
Tbh, I don't like all this poking into their personal lives. Seems a bit unsavoury and makes those doing it look vindictive, and like they're enjoying watching others go under. Sorry.
Obviously I don't condone what they've done but seriously?

Hear hear. Come on guys, this is getting seriously creepy now.
 
Persons who are disqualified as directors but are involved with a business may still be found in breach of the disqualification order/undertaking should their actions constitute being a shadow director.

Due to my profession I don't need company law being explained to me.

You don't really think this will happen do you or that anything will be achieved from this thread other than the company folding and everyone being out of pocket.
 
Hear hear. Come on guys, this is getting seriously creepy now.

Again agree 100% with this.

There have been numerous Derby House threads regarding their taking funds and failing to deliver goods months and months down the line or taking funds and not even having the items in stock.

Why have the directors of this company not been pursued with such vigor and vitriol? Why do not know about the rent payments and assets owned by these people?

This thread is pursuing Shwmae vindictively with every inch of the directors and their families lives being fair game to sum. It is unacceptable.

The cynic in me would think that Derby House actually advertise in H&H and I'm fairly certain anything of the same nature as this thread would be removed very quickly.

This will all fall on deaf ears again anyway ....... But how would some of the posters on here like THEIR personal details or comments about their families being posted on this forum?
 
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I can see what you mean - it's all a bit personal and is likely to be playing into their hands, but to be fair they are the ones posting photos of their house and horses, etc.
I see it as very different from the Derby House thing where, in spite of some serious incompetence, no-one from DH ever handed out the sort of insults and threats we've seen from these people.
 
I think its fair game for those who have issues to post about their dealings with the company and their problems around dealing with them, it lets others know how the company appear to be treating customers, but i dont like the posts that are about their personal lives and families, thats not anyones business but theirs
 
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