So Dissapointed

I have not read the thread, only the OP. If you read one of your replies on the thread about cobs, YOU were the very first person to post personal abuse (with or without smiley) For you to then attempt to take the moral high ground is the biggest joke about the whole business, I do hope that this thread is also a sind up?
 
LittleSoph said:
I keep toying with whether or not to post this, as I think a lot of people are just going to tell me I'm over reacting, but I can't help feeling it needs to be said.

Without going any further, I'm not one to over react often... I'm not a wimp, I not afraid of a decent debate and believe it or not, I'm not actually easily offended normally. But I do feel that the 'cobs' thread from last night was really below the belt, and became more so as it went on.

I couldn't care less who likes my horse and who doesn't. As far as I am concerned he is the best horse in the world and nobody can change my mind about that. However, I think some of the people posting last night were bullies and I think it is wrong that this is allowed to happen on a forum like this.

I'll admit to getting quite irate last night, as things went on, but having had time to think about it, I think, rather than just being plain rude, I think it was wrong the way people were tactlessly winding others up and offending people.

The thing is, the culprits say 'oh but we're not serious'... but the thing is, throughout the thread a bullying culture developed where as long as they stick a smiley on the end, all agree with one another and then claim they were only joking, it's fine for them to say what they like to who they like and then accuse their victims of over reacting!

I really felt, for the first time in many years, that I was back in the playground again, with some big bullies and their little sheep, probing and probing for a reaction that you don't want to give because you know it's what they're looking for, but in the end, you just can't help bite back!

I reported the post to admin, but it seems that because of who the ring leaders are, nothing has been done about it... which I find a real shame. I'm really disappointed with HHO about this and think this needed to be said. If this post dissapears into the depths with not a single reply now, then so be it... but at least I've said what I needed to say.
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I'm with you. I seriously dunno why i come on this forum sometimes, it so often just descends into bullying/playground stuff. There seems to be members whom people constantly brown nose, which is quite funny as i often think these people must be the least impressive since they have huge post counts, spend hours and hours a day on here and therefore obviously have no life. Why do people look up to them so much?? Often they have nothing constructive to say about horses either - this is supposed to be a forum for 'horse and hound magazine' yet loads of these 'prolific' members just chat **** .
Soph sometimes its best just to not open the threads you think are going to wind you up. But its a shame that its so easy to be wound up on here :(

xxx
 
Admin have not removed the post as it does not contravene t&C's people ask about age as so many of the irate posters give the impression of being rather young, it is not patronising, merely a point of interest.
 
Well in common with the rest of us the tone is dependant on the how we read them. I find the term brown nosing unbelievably offensive, just think about the connotations. However I accept that others do not. I do find people becoming irate about others rudeness fascinating when they are the first to make personal comments. I think it is quite charitable of people to assume that the poster is quite young, rather than an older and ignorant person.
 
LittleSoph said:
I keep toying with whether or not to post this, as I think a lot of people are just going to tell me I'm over reacting, but I can't help feeling it needs to be said.

Without going any further, I'm not one to over react often... I'm not a wimp, I not afraid of a decent debate and believe it or not, I'm not actually easily offended normally. But I do feel that the 'cobs' thread from last night was really below the belt, and became more so as it went on.

I couldn't care less who likes my horse and who doesn't. As far as I am concerned he is the best horse in the world and nobody can change my mind about that. However, I think some of the people posting last night were bullies and I think it is wrong that this is allowed to happen on a forum like this.

I'll admit to getting quite irate last night, as things went on, but having had time to think about it, I think, rather than just being plain rude, I think it was wrong the way people were tactlessly winding others up and offending people.

The thing is, the culprits say 'oh but we're not serious'... but the thing is, throughout the thread a bullying culture developed where as long as they stick a smiley on the end, all agree with one another and then claim they were only joking, it's fine for them to say what they like to who they like and then accuse their victims of over reacting!

I really felt, for the first time in many years, that I was back in the playground again, with some big bullies and their little sheep, probing and probing for a reaction that you don't want to give because you know it's what they're looking for, but in the end, you just can't help bite back!

I reported the post to admin, but it seems that because of who the ring leaders are, nothing has been done about it... which I find a real shame. I'm really disappointed with HHO about this and think this needed to be said. If this post dissapears into the depths with not a single reply now, then so be it... but at least I've said what I needed to say.
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Typical cob owner. Nowt between the ears.

:rolleyes:
 
LittleSoph said:
I'm finding it very interesting how it's all the members with high post counts that are STILL throwing the insults around...
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:( And I didn't even post in the original thread... ;)

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Wonder if anyone taking the piss actually dislikes cobs? Because I love them...you're still hysterical though.
 
Indy, how do you feel about the term 'ankle-biters'?

I quite like it myself, as I feel it neatly encapsulates the situation I saw the other day, of a full-size horse completely surrounded by the herd of shetlands someone had decided to turn it out with, a bit like a Brontasaurus surrounded by all those titchy dinosaurs in Jurassic Park that surround people and eat them alive... Big horse was looking distinctly concerned!:D
 
I havent read the whole of this thread, as I havent read the whole of the other thread, as tbh, I could feel my blood boiling and didnt want to get involved, as I dont feel I have to justify my choice of horse to anyone.

I found the original post to be in bad taste, and could quite easily have been offended by it, but I love my horses, and quite frankly, couldnt give a damn if people think I have them because I can't ride or I am too afraid to get on anything finer.

All I will add ( as I couldnt join in this and not!!!), is that in 9 years of owning my fat, furry and badly conformed tank, she has not had one day of lameness. She has hunted, show jumped, done dressage (not very well, but a lot of that is down to my lack of enthusiasm!), and done cross country. She has been used as a lead to horses round cross country courses, as well as to the master of a hunting field to get over ditches.

I love *most* horses and the ones I dont care for are those that are ill mannered or bad tempered, *whatever* their breed.

LittleSoph, I agree with you and I am most certainly not young, whatever definition you give it!!!!!
 
Yep, can live with the term 'ankle-biter'

My Shetland doesn't need a crew to act hard behind though. She's the Clint Eastwood of the shetland world. She's mean, keen and able and if she could she'd chew up bacca and spit it out. She is the ultimate good, bad and to be fair not really all that ugly.
 
I'm 43 1/12, before anyone asks:rolleyes:

I'm not going to get into the cob debate but here's what Wikipedia (and everyone knows it is the fountain of all knowledge :D )

"Bullying is a form of abuse. It comprises repeated acts over time that involves a real or perceived imbalance of power with the more powerful individual or group abusing those who are less powerful.[2] The power imbalance may be social power and/or physical power. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target."

That's how last night's (and this one, to more of an extent) felt, to me. Whichever "side" you are on, there is a group who repeatedly are abusing LS for her views/reaction to someone else's views.

I've been the victim of this (not here) and whether real or "it's only an internet forum" - it hurts.

SO those who think they're "just winding people up" - congrats! Looks like you got what you wanted, now you have a victim, will you keep on picking? Or will you realise what you're doing?
 
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I don't know where all the ankle-biters came from around here - everytime I turn around we seem to have acquired a few more! They are roaming in packs, scaring the big horses and starting punch-ups right before visitors walk around the corner to see the sweet ponies... Also one of them made a very good attempt at eating my dog...:eek:

I don't mess with them:eek: They are far too scary:D
 
Remember how excited
You were when I came home
For the first time in your life
You have a pony of your own

Whether I’m a cob or a sports horse
A Shetland or a Shire
My eyes shone brown or blue
I set your heart on fire.

You’d shout it from the rooftops
Your love for me knew no bound
You’d post lots of photos
On the forum for Horse and Hound

Then one day you came to see me
The spring in your step wasn’t there
People had be harsh and rude
But dear Mum, I don’t care

I know that to you I’m special
And forever in your heart
So ignore people with insults
For we will never be apart

To those who post just to provoke
Who pick and stir for fun
Just think of when your special horse
May need support for his mum

Whether it’s colic or a tumour
Cushings or he’s lame
My mum would support you
Until the vet’s final visit came

So when you’re sobbing at your laptop
Needing sympathy, an ear and a hug
Would you expect others to support
If you post as a forum thug?…
 
Spudlet, if ever you venture up north, well as far as Doncaster anway and fancy watching a lone Shetland rule a community through fear and violent yobbish behaviour you are more than welcome!

Just watch your back that's all I'm saying!
 
I doubt it if threy can read acurately. You made the personal comment about another poster 'brown nosing' THAT is a personal comment. Up to that point the comments were general and about types of horses, not about the attributes and behaviours of people.
Re the bullying comment: Again this is a point of view, there is no 'power' on this forum, therefore no imabalance of power. If people choose to make personal insults on the forum, I assume they are more than capable of reading them back.
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I'm surprised Shils has been put on UI TBH, she may have started the thread but I don't think she actually posted much on it, and none of what I saw was rude or disrespectful.......or maybe I am missing something? :confused:
 
3Beasties said:
I'm surprised Shils has been put on UI TBH, she may have started the thread but I don't think she actually posted much on it, and none of what I saw was rude or disrespectful.......or maybe I am missing something? :confused:
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In typical Shils fashion she made a comment and left us to create havoc.
 
sorry littlesoph. We all have our likes and dislikes in horses, I've owned 3 wonderful cobs over the years and TBs and Arabxwelsh. But when you said brown-nosing you did overstep the mark. I've been taken to task on several post of being to blunt and tactles. but to me every horse has a personalty of their own, doesn't matter what breed or non as the case may be, each to their own. You take great pride in your animal, just like the rest of us. Please don't let shildair and gutterfox take great delight in taking the piss of us all.
 
Its ok, I have got over it :)

bit bizarre as to why I would want to but ho de hum its a forum which many of us spend too much time on :rolleyes:
 
LittleSoph i'd recommend ignoring people like Shilasdair. Do remember that this forum seems to be her life (she even runs a facebook account in the same name for goodness sake!) and she'll think herself very amusing for creating such a fuss. I don't see any pictures of her jumping her thoroughbred around Badminton or her warmblood in the Global Champions Tour, so i wouldn't let her opinion bother you.
 
mrdarcy said:
I never bother reading Shilasdair's posts - assuming they are always the usual standard... about as funny as a heart attack. I just went and had a look - yes obviously meant tongue in cheek but also intended to bait people. There are some genuinely humourous threads on here every so often but that one is just lame. Stick her on ignore and move on - your horse is stunning btw!
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I agree with mrdarcy :)

I'm a pretty tolerant person but I did find the topic to be distasteful and to be honest, even though I don't own a cob, it greatly aggravated me. I guess that was the point of the topic and from now on, I'll simply avoid reading topics and posts which are made by the people I was most bothered by.

I've never understood why some people like to stir up trouble (assuming that was the intended purpose of the topic) as it holds no appeal for me. I guess I never will and therefore it's not really worth worrying about much. :)
 
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