LEC
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I just want to say what BE is doing is great… finally! I have often been critical but this year I am more optimistic about it than ever.
So what has British Eventing done wrong?
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Not slacking multitasking
Maybe he’s just trying to get it all out the way in the off season this year? 
SaddlePsych'D
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I see that Barbury also have unaff. CC dates in May - is this a change from previous year where the BE and unaff. events couldn't run, or because the BE event has moved earlier in the year? The international was always on my birthday weekend (and I really regret not going!)
LEC
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Cotswold Cup makes Musketeer 3x the money BE will. They have run CC in that May date for 3/4 years now. BE won’t give them an international but pleased to see BE back and it’s a good choice to run in April on that chalk. One of the other issues Barbary has had and why it has run later is the racing yard but guess April is coming to end of season.
Cragrat
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Does anyone know what this shorter format 'XS Plus' will look like?
ihatework
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No idea, I’d hazard a guess it’s a combined sj/xc at facilities that have a big all weather set up
LEC
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My guess is it was like affiliated clear round xc maybe with a sjing round
teapot
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Brilliant FEI eventing seminar from last week, the discussion over fitness and approaches within the sport is well worth a listen, especially about rider fitness for the Bicton 3DE.
Oh on lunge lessons and no stirrup work. A lot of people could do with listening to this!
Oh on lunge lessons and no stirrup work. A lot of people could do with listening to this!
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LEC
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It’s very good. Given me some things to think about and act on.Brilliant FEI eventing seminar from last week, the discussion over fitness and approaches within the sport is well worth a listen, especially about rider fitness for the Bicton 3DE.
Oh on lunge lessons and no stirrup work. A lot of people could do with listening to this!
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ihatework
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Brilliant FEI eventing seminar from last week, the discussion over fitness and approaches within the sport is well worth a listen, especially about rider fitness for the Bicton 3DE.
Oh on lunge lessons and no stirrup work. A lot of people could do with listening to this!
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That was a good watch, thanks for flagging
millitiger
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What does everyone think of this?
Personally, having really moved to the dark side of dressage, I would love a chance to do dressage and XC and drop the SJ.
Personally, having really moved to the dark side of dressage, I would love a chance to do dressage and XC and drop the SJ.
British Eventing launch XC + – British Eventing – News
news.britisheventing.com
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
What does everyone think of this?
Personally, having really moved to the dark side of dressage, I would love a chance to do dressage and XC and drop the SJ.
British Eventing launch XC + – British Eventing – News
news.britisheventing.com
I would have bitten their hands of for that! I only did eventing for the cross country. I could have gone up at least one level to Intermediate with both my main horses, but I couldn't crack the show jumping, I'm hopeless once it gets over a metre.
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millitiger
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Same!
We were ready to step up XC very easily but kept having 1-2 poles SJ and I was finding it demoralising.
I'd love to do dressage and XC and forget my SJ stresses.
Obviously having read it, it's only 80 and 90 and you need to do a standard class first but I will still be keen to have a canter around!
We were ready to step up XC very easily but kept having 1-2 poles SJ and I was finding it demoralising.
I'd love to do dressage and XC and forget my SJ stresses.
Obviously having read it, it's only 80 and 90 and you need to do a standard class first but I will still be keen to have a canter around!
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Sanversera
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I can see the attraction of two out of three but is it eventing? It's not quite is it.
Orangehorse
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No, it isn't eventing without the show jumping. Show jumping is much harder, I think.
Lots of horses are quite capable of tackling a cross country course, with the rider on board over not that big solid fences (I'm not talking Badminton here). I think that show jumping depends much more on the rider - sorry, sorry! The larger the fence the more precise the take-off, counting strides in between fences, etc. That is why we don't like show jumping much!
Lots of horses are quite capable of tackling a cross country course, with the rider on board over not that big solid fences (I'm not talking Badminton here). I think that show jumping depends much more on the rider - sorry, sorry! The larger the fence the more precise the take-off, counting strides in between fences, etc. That is why we don't like show jumping much!
ihatework
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What does everyone think of this?
Personally, having really moved to the dark side of dressage, I would love a chance to do dressage and XC and drop the SJ.
British Eventing launch XC + – British Eventing – News
news.britisheventing.com
I’m not quite sure what I think!!
I suppose my initial response is that whilst it wouldn’t be something that encouraged me personally to join BE, there is a chance I’d make use of it if it suited a particular horse at a specific period of their training.
Provided it doesn’t take priority/slots from full up paying BE members wanting the full format, then I see no harm in generating additional income for organisers.
millitiger
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I agree 100% it's the rider, however I don't think it's that the rider isn't capable.
If a rider can come at speed to a table, turning 3 strides to a skinny, sometimes up or down a camber or gradient, they *should* have the skill to SJ at the same level.
I can ride a xc at 100 on my horse and hit a lovely stride everywhere, I know from miles out what stride I'm on, I can adjust and go from a longer or shorter stride.
I cannot do the same SJ and it is definitely in my head rather than a skill issue. I could cope better if it was a skill issue that I could practice.
Even a technical xc line feels much more intuitive than a single SJ- I'd rather jump an upright gate than an SJ vertical yet both should be the same!
TheMule
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I'm another that can’t really understand the appeal or see it’s real viable place in the sport, especially just at 80/90 level, but if others find it valuable and enjoy it then it could be a good way to bring some extra money in to undersubscribed events.
ycbm
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myheartinahoofbeat
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At least they are trying to find a way forward and it sounds like a good proposition but if you have to have competed a full ODE already then that’s not quite the same as offering it to those who don’t want to tackle one.Also I wonder how many spaces will actually be available and how the timing will work?
As Hunter trials are so popular perhaps they should look at offering something like that on a different day after the ODE , again logistics would be a problem.
As Hunter trials are so popular perhaps they should look at offering something like that on a different day after the ODE , again logistics would be a problem.
Squeak
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I do worry slightly from a safety perspective, possibly even more so at 80/90 level of people going xc without showjumping beforehand. I'm not really sure how I feel about it tbh.
LEC
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I think anyway of giving people access to the sport and removing barriers is good. I can’t see them rolling it higher than 80/90 though. Doesn’t do anything for me but I can see how it would for others if makes them more confident or gives them an enjoyable day.
Alibear
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I can see the appeal for those who own out-and-out jumpers who hate dressage.
rara007
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If the organisers need the entries and this gets a few more in the door then it can only be positive? It does seem like a niche market but they obviously feel worth a go.
dixie
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This would’ve been My horse when I was eventing. We were usually near the bottom after dressage and then clawed our way upwards - usually to 11th place !
I would’ve loved not to do the dressage !
SaddlePsych'D
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Good grief people commenting on the H&H FB post about this are being incredibly dramatic ('the death of eventing') and rude ('lowering the bar') and many clearly haven't even read what BE are proposing to do.
TPO
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Sounds about right for that Internet
SaddlePsych'D
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Not quite sure why I treated myself to reading a comment section. Especially a FB one. I blame not being able to get back to sleep early this morning!Sounds about right for that Internet
ETA Also not sure why 'money making scheme' is said as a bad thing? I'm sure people would be far more upset if next season more events are gone completely due to not being financially supported enough by entries.
I think my favourite comment was a 'what about the ground' comment. Like really?? The ground will change from start to finish of a section/class/day anyway. Not sure what difference it makes if people aren't doing all three phases. Perhaps they can do XC- for people worried about the ground? (Tongue on cheek there, I know people do have to make decisions about ground they feel their horse is okay to run on)
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humblepie
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My show jumper who was nifty round a hunter trial would have been good for this.