sorry! had to share my puppies with you!

[littlemisslauren]

I really don't understand going to the bother of health testing to just breed crossbreed puppies.

Obviously it is preferable that it is done but I would think someone educated enough to health test would wish to breed pedigree. Maybe thats just my brain not functioning.

Would be interested to know the hip scores?

 

[s4sugar]

Do you mean the BVA?

They don't usually accept plates without registration & microchip numbers & they don't do eyes.

 

[Cop-Pop]

Goodness whats got into this place these days? S4sugar - there is no need to act like the spanish inquisition! Can I remind people that there have been plenty of more regular members who have bred crossbreed puppies who haven't been treated like criminals (one only a couple of threads below) Yes I know there is a problem with irresponsible over breeding but quite frankly there is no need to be so rude!

 

[fruity]

Typo error on mobile,bva excepted mine,helps when you have contacts I guess? Clear eye cert was done by a bva Ophthalmologist.

 

[s4sugar]

Goodness whats got into this place these days? S4sugar - there is no need to act like the spanish inquisition! Can I remind people that there have been plenty of more regular members who have bred crossbreed puppies who haven't been treated like criminals (one only a couple of threads below) Yes I know there is a problem with irresponsible over breeding but quite frankly there is no need to be so rude!

There is a big difference between deliberate breeding & whoops breedings and neither are approved of but some are tolerated.
IN this case there is a lot of BS -which does not stand for British Showjumping.
The Op has contradicted herself several times and not answered direct questions. BTW canine opthamologists in the UK do not provide an official certificate without registration papers.
I would love to see any documents the OP has and I do help organise eye testing sessions.

 

[Vizslak]

they dont do hips without registration either.
Was VWD tested as well?

 

[pelena]

Goodness whats got into this place these days? S4sugar - there is no need to act like the spanish inquisition! Can I remind people that there have been plenty of more regular members who have bred crossbreed puppies who haven't been treated like criminals (one only a couple of threads below) Yes I know there is a problem with irresponsible over breeding but quite frankly there is no need to be so rude!

I couldn't agree with you more. Whilst I disapprove of cross-breeding, I really think some people on here should reflect that basic courtesy is often much more effective at getting a point across. And frankly, those who can't see in what way some of these posts come across as aggressive or rude need to review their manners.

 

[fruity]

Gosh if you were a pleasant person I'd be more than happy to provide the documents,as your not and from the start you were a complete cow then you can stuff it. Go ahead and say whatever you want,it must make you feel so good picking on the people on this forum. Go on feel free to keep slating,no matter what I say you'll come back with your sniping which is what you did in your op. We all have our own opinions on dogs,breeding.. Everything. Your bloody name should be Medusa on here,you probably look like her too.

 

[fruity]

If people who are 'nice' want to see proof then I am more than willing to provide,I used the eye specialist we refer too,i spoke to bva myself,will be talking to them regarding the views expressed today.

 

[s4sugar]

Gosh if you were a pleasant person I'd be more than happy to provide the documents,as your not and from the start you were a complete cow then you can stuff it. Go ahead and say whatever you want,it must make you feel so good picking on the people on this forum. Go on feel free to keep slating,no matter what I say you'll come back with your sniping which is what you did in your op. We all have our own opinions on dogs,breeding.. Everything. Your bloody name should be Medusa on here,you probably look like her too.

Showing your true colours.
All I have done is asked the questions any experienced breeder, breed rescuer or puppy buyer should ask.
On the other hand the OP has changed her story;- "Just to let you all know,these arn't 'special' cross breeds with a high price tag,they were bred FOR people, 3 are family homes which have been waiting for a puppy each,1 is for me and 1 is going to working a home. They are not being 'advertised' on here,yes I am in a lucky position that if for any reason they can't keep them I have a contract stating they come back to me,these weren't bred for the sake of breeding,3 pups had definate homes and 2 were homed before the pups were 21 days old (even if they hadn't of they wouldn't of gone anywhere) all pups are going within a 6 mile radius of my home. 1 to a close friend,1 to a behaviourist/ trainer (3 pups are attending her classes) 1 is going to a farm and 1 I'm keeping for myself. I work at a vets,pups and mum have had 5 star treatment and none of these puppies will be going to rescues,I know each one of the homes." as obviously they were NOT spoken for prior to the mating.

Still waiting for answers though especially why this mutt was bred from.

As for your insults - Medusa is quite cool, good super power to have!

 

[fruity]

Keep going love keep going. I don't need to explain anything to you. True colours no,sticking up for myself yes. The way you talk about other peoples dogs is appalling,your manners amaze me.

 

[wildwest]

well im totally amazed at the replys op has got ......shame on you all
i for one think they are lovely bundles of fun ,and the pics made my day :}
crossbreds are wonderful family pets , i had my rotti full bred for 13 wonderful years ,
we have our husky full bred 5 so so years !!!
and our jrt crossbred 7 wonderful years, and shes as special as the others.
bet you have no probs finding them homes there gorg
oh and sorry people have treated you like **** youve kept your head better than i would have x

 

[Kaylum]

To be honest its not just the breeders of cross breeds its the people buying them. I know an idiot at work bought a westie x and paid £400 (I kid you not). The problem with these breeders is they cant be bothered to find a good dog thats the same breed as they cost too much and certainly would never use a good dog to cross the breed. So makes you wonder what dogs they are using. Just a mates down the road! The more money they get for them for more they will breed. So it goes on......... Shame on people who think this is acceptable. Get to the rescue centre if you want a cross breed for even a pedigree.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Goodness whats got into this place these days? S4sugar - there is no need to act like the spanish inquisition! Can I remind people that there have been plenty of more regular members who have bred crossbreed puppies who haven't been treated like criminals (one only a couple of threads below) Yes I know there is a problem with irresponsible over breeding but quite frankly there is no need to be so rude!

I couldn't agree with you more. Whilst I disapprove of cross-breeding, I really think some people on here should reflect that basic courtesy is often much more effective at getting a point across. And frankly, those who can't see in what way some of these posts come across as aggressive or rude need to review their manners.

Couldn't agree more. Dear me, no need at all. We are all aware of the issues of breeding non-pedigree dogs, but I'm really sad to see AAD living up to its reputation. I know for a fact that some people are put off posting in here because of the supposed unpleasantness, which I have never really seen in evidence until today. Really sad.

If you don't approve, then don't reply to the thread. The OP is under no obligation to respond or prove herself in any way. So unfortunate.

 

[fruity]

Thank you someone nice mum is a wonderful rat catcher and family friend,she is a very soppy girl and is fab with everything. Dad is a lovely working terrier,won many dog shows and is also fab with everything. I'd rather have a lovely little x breed that'll prob live a long healthy life than a more often than not in bred pure bred with health problems. My parents bred collies and I love my pure breeds but these are much loved parents and puppies and I am fortunate to be enough to be able to keep them if they have problems with their homes in the future. So why not?

 

[Dobiegirl]

MM I feel a tad uneasy about breeding from Pip but remind myself she is on the KC vunerable list and it will only be after a succussful showing career and health testing.

OP you may or may not have had all the health tests done but your puppies are a mixture of god knows what and I am being honest here. You have no idea what they are going to look like or most importantly what their temperment is going to be. That to me smacks of irresponsible breeding and if some people dont like to hear the truth well tough titty. Lets just pat her on the back shall we and say well done.

 

[clevelandbay]

Gosh, never ventured into this section before and this thread is a bit of an eye opener!

I totally agree that breeding poor quality puppies in an irresponsible manner is wrong, but a dog doesn't have to be a pedigree to be a good dog. My own mutt is 13, thinks she's 2, has no health problems to speak of (good sight, hearing, no joint problems and no behavioural problems) and is a hugely loved member of the family. My mother in law in the time we've had my dog, has had 2 full pedigree dogs (german shepherd and border collie) that have had health problems and died under the age of 8.

By the way, I had my bitch spayed.

 

[Dobiegirl]

CT really surprised at your response you of all people are aware of irresponsible breeding without health testing, your dogs if memory serves me correct are proof of it.

 

[fruity]

Can I please make it clear these puppies are from working parents,they are not a litter of 'lakemans' 'manlakes' or whatever the money stealing breeders try to sell. These are going to people I know for very little! They were NOT bred for money being the main thing. My little 'mutt' as s4shitebag said culls more rats and mice at my yard than my jrt,friends pure bred lakeland and patterdale do!

 

[Dobiegirl]

Can I please make it clear these puppies are from working parents,they are not a litter of 'lakemans' 'manlakes' or whatever the money stealing breeders try to sell. These are going to people I know for very little! They were NOT bred for money being the main thing. My little 'mutt' as s4shitebag said culls more rats and mice at my yard than my jrt,friends pure bred lakeland and patterdale do!

Medusa & now 4shitebag thats really nice and polite isnt it. You are the one throwing the insults in here.

 

[Katikins]

Once again people take these kind of opinions as a 'mongrels are all bad'!! Nobody said that! A lot of people who post on here frequently have rescue mongrels and adore them and admit they are fabulous dogs. BUT, the rescue centres are overflowing and KILLING healthy dogs because people keep breeding cross breeds! Why would ANYONE add to the list of dogs in the world when you can get puppies from a rescue centre and therefore save another dog from death?

If you are getting a pedigree then it is quite often a different matter... but I see NO reason AT ALL for justifying breeding cross breeds. If you can give me one reason that can stand up fire away... but I highly doubt it!

 

[Katikins]

Medusa & now 4shitebag thats really nice and polite isnt it. You are the one throwing the insults in here.

DG, some people just have an inability to have an adult conversation with someone without reverting to insults if people don't agree with their point of view. As my mother always said, once you start calling names, you've lost the argument.

 

[Dobiegirl]

DG, some people just have an inability to have an adult conversation with someone without reverting to insults if people don't agree with their point of view. As my mother always said, once you start calling names, you've lost the argument.

You put it better than I ever could.

 

[Camel]

Not much makes me literally 'lol' (how ever many times I type I do!!) but

as s4shitebag said

this really did - and fair play to her! unbelieveably rude comments on her

xx

 

[fruity]

No I was not throwing insults until me and my dog and her puppies were being called cruel names! I am done and that is all,believe me as others have put I have been rather light back considering what that poster has said!

 

[Kaylum]

Once again people take these kind of opinions as a 'mongrels are all bad'!! Nobody said that! A lot of people who post on here frequently have rescue mongrels and adore them and admit they are fabulous dogs. BUT, the rescue centres are overflowing and KILLING healthy dogs because people keep breeding cross breeds! Why would ANYONE add to the list of dogs in the world when you can get puppies from a rescue centre and therefore save another dog from death?

If you are getting a pedigree then it is quite often a different matter... but I see NO reason AT ALL for justifying breeding cross breeds. If you can give me one reason that can stand up fire away... but I highly doubt it!

Exactly!

 

[Vizslak]

DG, some people just have an inability to have an adult conversation with someone without reverting to insults if people don't agree with their point of view. As my mother always said, once you start calling names, you've lost the argument.

indeed

 

[fruity]

Can I please add I did not start with the tit for tat names,I am not usually like that but the person in question was being very nasty and there was no call to be like that,have noticed a few of you are 'friends' of hers on here so blaming me is expected of course. That's fine as I said we all have an opinion.

 

[Cop-Pop]

DG, some people just have an inability to have an adult conversation with someone without reverting to insults if people don't agree with their point of view. As my mother always said, once you start calling names, you've lost the argument.

Tbf its not people disagreeing with thier POV it's people immediately jumping on them and being insulting. If this was my only experience of this section of the forum I certainly wouldn't be coming back. I'm aware that feelings run high when it comes to breeding but common decency costs nothing. S4sugar and other regular posters set the tone at the very beginning (tho I dont condone name calling from either poster).

 

[Vizslak]

No I was not throwing insults until me and my dog and her puppies were being called cruel names! I am done and that is all,believe me as others have put I have been rather light back considering what that poster has said!

Nobody called you, your dog or pups any rude names.
People on here feel very strongly about breeding of x breds. They were not working dogs produced for working homes at all, you already said only one is going to a working home. You cant have it all ways.