sorry! had to share my puppies with you!

What I think Puppy, is that people should only breed dogs which will be healthy and which will have a nice life. The same as I think about horses and children. They're my only two criteria. Beyond that I am easy as to what people do and I don't actually think it is anyone else's business really.

I only wanted to mention that a lot of the stuff spouted about genetics seems to have little basis in fact and probably shouldn't be used to berate the poor OP!
 
WOW! I wondered why this post had so many hits and I never ever venture into the dog section cos I don't have one and THANK GOD I DON'T because I would be scared stiff of some of the posters on this site. Poor woman just wanted to share her photos - you're like the freaking Horse n Hound Taliban!
 
Just for you haters of crossbreeds with stupid names.....
P@H store getting dog food. Lady with cute tiny (probably not old enough to vaccinate yet) puppy.
Its a cross breed. A pomeranian and a poodle.
Its a pompoo apparently and set her back....wait for it....you might want to sit down.....£850!!!:eek:
*and whispers none of the puppies I bred were docked....yet all bar one went into working homes*
 
I love how some posters defending the OP are coming in all guns blazing because the thread has been dragged out too long.

Yes they are dragging it out even more??
 
Having had a whole host of cross breed and pedigree puppies - I wouldn't advocate only breeding pedigree puppies. I doubt I'd choose a pedigree now over my useless un health tested scrappy mongrel JRTs :D
 
Having had a whole host of cross breed and pedigree puppies - I wouldn't advocate only breeding pedigree puppies. I doubt I'd choose a pedigree now over my useless un health tested scrappy mongrel JRTs :D

But when you did choose a pedigree you did a huge amount of research, made sure parents were health tested etc, which is what so many of us are trying to say.
Puppy, you know I for one love Popple and Sprocket. I think you also had quite a few adverse comments when you first had the litter, but again you had done health tests if I can recall, and don't think you were breeding to make megabucks were you. :p
I have already said that I feel I was a bit harsh on the OP in view of the many health tests she seems to have done before her bitch was mated, but this wasn't stated in her first post, all we saw was someone referring to a litter crossed between a Man terrier and a Lakeland, when the bitch we saw clearly was neither. I can't speak for all the other posters on here, but as someone who has spent decades trying to improve my line, rejecting dogs for breeding that I felt weren't suitable (but keeping them I should add, my dogs are pets first and foremost) it is galling when people take the line that all pedigree dogs are crap and we should all have crosses. So it isn't just the owner of crosses who can feel offended.
 
Puppy, you know I for one love Popple and Sprocket. I think you also had quite a few adverse comments when you first had the litter, but again you had done health tests if I can recall, and don't think you were breeding to make megabucks were you. :p

What about Fraggle?! :eek:

She gets very upset if you leave her out...



I certainly didn't breed for money, lol! It cost me about a grand in vet and stud fees alone (Stud dog has been presented to the Queen and comes from 30 years of breeding from an international judge/trainer) And then there's food, wormer, vaccs, washing a trillion towels a day, and the wear on the house/our shoes, well the less said about that, the better! :D

Incidentally, if I had no morals I could make a fortune selling popple dogs. EVERY single walk people stop me and ask after them and wanting one. But I don't want that. Fraggle is being spayed next month and if I have another litter from Popple once again they will only go to incredibly suitable friends and family - Weevil and myself having one more each for a start!
 
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Would you like to deliver the lecture on genetics or shall I? There seem to be some funny old ideas about how they work going on in this thread ;)
:eek: That just gave me a horrible flashback to the hours of boredom that were my 2nd year university genetics lectures....

As it happens despite sleeping through most of the aforementioned lectures I actually have a pretty good grasp of genetics and was more than happy to take one of Puppy's awful crossbreeds off her hands :D and I think he is the best puppy in the World. I can't imagine life without my little dimwit and I really couldn't have asked for a better dog.

Pretty much everyone can think of terrible examples of both purebred dogs and crossbreeds, as long as a dog is happy and healthy what does it matter how it was bred?
 
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As it happens despite sleeping through most of the aforementioned lectures I actually have a pretty good grasp of genetics and was more than happy to take one of Puppy's awful crossbreeds off her hands :D and I think he is the best puppy in the World. I can't imagine life without my little dimwit and I really couldn't have asked for a better dog.

Your bill is in the post :p
 
Hybred vigour anyone? Scientifically proven I think you will find.....

Lovely puppies fruity, I'd have 10 of those over 1 pug/bulldog etc....
 
But when you did choose a pedigree you did a huge amount of research, made sure parents were health tested etc, which is what so many of us are trying to say.
Puppy, you know I for one love Popple and Sprocket. I think you also had quite a few adverse comments when you first had the litter, but again you had done health tests if I can recall, and don't think you were breeding to make megabucks were you. :p
I have already said that I feel I was a bit harsh on the OP in view of the many health tests she seems to have done before her bitch was mated, but this wasn't stated in her first post, all we saw was someone referring to a litter crossed between a Man terrier and a Lakeland, when the bitch we saw clearly was neither. I can't speak for all the other posters on here, but as someone who has spent decades trying to improve my line, rejecting dogs for breeding that I felt weren't suitable (but keeping them I should add, my dogs are pets first and foremost) it is galling when people take the line that all pedigree dogs are crap and we should all have crosses. So it isn't just the owner of crosses who can feel offended.

You are right I did try my best to do my bit of research with Z, but when I got Roly and Lil, I simply went out looking for healthy happy puppies. I wouldn't have expected health tests tbh they were rough and ready farm pups.
 
Is the genetics stuff aimed at me? I'm sorry! My humblest apologies to the geneticists in the room :D In my special drunken way I was trying to make the point that phenotype does not equal genotype, and that there is more to heritability than 'what you see is what you get'.

It probably made absolutely no sense. I've thought about it for a couple of minutes, and decided that I'm OK with not making sense. :)
 
Is the genetics stuff aimed at me? I'm sorry! My humblest apologies to the geneticists in the room :D In my special drunken way I was trying to make the point that phenotype does not equal genotype, and that there is more to heritability than 'what you see is what you get'.

It probably made absolutely no sense. I've thought about it for a couple of minutes, and decided that I'm OK with not making sense. :)

Where oh where is the board "Massive Like" button . . .

. . . wonder if this will make as much sense in the morning when I've not had as much wine?

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Please don't suggest you're going to breed another litter Puppy?? Out of a very ordinary and slightly out of proportion crossbred? I really don't understand how it seems like a good idea to breed a couple of random breeds together- I wouldn't say anything normally but thinking of having two litters, that's bad.
 
Fraggle is beautiful . . . those eyes!

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Thank you :)

She says you can have a tickle of her tummy if you like :D

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. . . wonder if this will make as much sense in the morning when I've not had as much wine?

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Probably not. I often look at my posts once sober and think 'what? What does that mean?' :p

I've been musing the point that pedigree dogs are simply a variation, and that preference for them is snobbery. I think I agree to an extent. But I also disagree. Various breeds of dog are of course variations at some point, but these variations were generally standardized and turned into 'breeds' because they performed a particular function. For example, the Border Collies herding ability. That doesn't mean that families looking for a pet should go out and get a BC above a cross. It also doesn't mean that the Border Collie is a pointless variation, and that a Beagle X Pomeranian could fulfill that same role.

I will state right now that the above will make no sense in the morning. :)
 
Dont go on that pet forum thingy they are not allowed to talk about cross breeds in there and there is someone in there really scary, makes Cayla look like a pussy cat.

Who? I've not come across anyone scary on there? :confused: Mental, yeah, scary, no.

I do not always vanish! I did it once. Nor am I always ready for a fight! I've been very not-fighty this evening. If I were a boxer I'd be a cuddly one made from cuddly material with googly eyes. I'd be on antiques roadshow with people in very old suits holding me up to the camera and saying things like "now we [who were born in 1910-1920] all remember these don't we? They were the epitome of childhood happy memories!"

I'd have a little stitched on smile. Awwww!

Oh my lord, are you very pished?!


phenotype does not equal genotype, and that there is more to heritability than 'what you see is what you get'.

It probably made absolutely no sense. I've thought about it for a couple of minutes, and decided that I'm OK with not making sense. :)

Ooh, lordy! Step away from the wine, Pix! PMSL!
 
Oh my lord, are you very pished?!




Ooh, lordy! Step away from the wine, Pix! PMSL!

Mere emoticons cannot express the deep well of sadness that has consumed my soul. My sadness at your derision would eclipse a thousand tears of blood, or more accurately, inspire a hundred emo songs.


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CT it was a joke, Cayla is not scary.:D

Yeah she is: all us Geordie types are way scary.

Mere emoticons cannot express the deep well of sadness that has consumed my soul. My sadness at your derision would eclipse a thousand tears of blood, or more accurately, inspire a hundred emo songs.

Are you going to crouch in a corner with your hair over your face sticking safety pins into your arm? Looking like that bint out of the Grudge? Can I watch?
 
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