Teaching qualifications

[JFTDWS]

Can you actually say anything nice or do you always have to make snide comments at members being bitchy and rude???

Well I don't think I've ever called anyone on here a bitch, or been caught trolling and pretending to be multiple people at once, so I'd say that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, should they, HGA?

Doesn't effect me calling BHS qualified people inc me *any numpty*?? how do you work that out. What would you think if people started critising your riding position from your photos.? All we can do is teach beginners and nervous people!!!! what sort of reaction did you expect or does your potrail of an AI and dissing it come so naturaly your not aware some people may take offence to you calling them a numpty and no good for teaching anyone over a beginner level??

I was about to quote my comment which when looking back is on another thread oaf, about except those at eventing/high competing level traning people, which in that thread I said would in my opinion is acceptable to teach. As is a dressage trainer round here who competes for the Uk but has no qualifications to speak of but she teaches high level and passes on her traning through this.


Making comments like this
Is IMO disrespecting any qualified trainer who is brilliant and well respected at all levels of their training. Your comment came across that any tom dick or harry can pass and the AI is easy peasy, which I cannot comment on what is involved now but in my day of passing 1981 was actually very strict loads involved. So understand those who have forked out a lot of money - time and hours qualifying, reads a post which makes the AI look a push over and they should not be proud to have achieved it at the end as it is no big deal.

Just for the record before I started my stage 4 we had to teach a lot of dressage movent to client inc shoulder in half pass turn on the fore hand and more.

I'm never sure if you're deliberately obtuse, or just not able to understand things very well. I think I've made it abundantly clear that my issue is with the low standards of AIs coming through the current system, who have no further experience beyond [current] s3 level. In my opinion, it is entirely possible for a competent rider to get through the current s3 exams with very little effort. And it's entirely possible for numpties to get through it with a great deal more effort, but remain utter numpties at the end of it. You're welcome to disagree, but no amount wailing on your part will change my mind on it.

As for my opinion affecting how people think of AIs, I'd imagine you're doing a good enough job of that for yourself...

 

[Tnavas]

It might be the internationally recognised standard but some of it is lagging way behind current research and understanding. And that is before we even get started on the colours page in their instruction book yet they also say 'Describe coat colour using the correct terminology' you can bet I'd use correct terminology, yet it would disagree with half of theirs!
I mean seriously, where do you start correcting this! I can understand keeping it simple at this level but at least keep the simple bits correct.

And I am not tarring everyone with the same brush, I am saying that none of the AIs I know that make a living out of teaching are actually good enough themselves/understand things to actually teach.

The RS I speak of with minimally qualified instructors got my friend to AI as a working pupil, she was taught mostly by someone who only had a pony club H test and no competition record/experience so (much as I love my friend) the quality of her teaching will always be limited yet she got her AI first time, so IME BHS exams are not weeding out the poorly trained.

I had no choice but to be interested in the management side of things, no pony of own so a lot of time spent reading partly my Mum's old books (they were funny even back then!) and magazines, we didn't even have the internet to learn stuff from either. That was my pony fix

OMG! Can you not comprehend that AI - means assistant instructor - one who still needs to be supervised to enable them to progress! It is the first rung of the teaching ladder - of course there will be some at the lower end and some at the upper end of knowledge and experience. You experience must be very limited - because I have managed to find several very capable AI's that I employed to teach in my riding school in New Zealand!

As far as colours go - while genetic knowledge is far more understood - many of the colours can only be defined by the results of genetic testing. The basics are still there.

 

[JFTDWS]

But even an idiot can understand the difference between dun and buckskin - surely even someone at the lowest level of instructor training can manage that... The kids in pony club can, if taught the right basics!

 

[ester]

OMG!! Of course I know that, but they still hold a qualification to teach and those I have met in my 11 years of actual ownership shouldn't IMO be teaching and I wish I had found the sort of trainer I have now then. In somerset I was taught by a BHSII but she competed herself and was a good teacher too, and am now taught by and FBHS so it isn't like I don't know how the system works or have no experience of it. Whether they were both good teachers as AIs - likely but I didn't know them then.

No the basics are not still there. The basics are scarily way off.
You cannot say white, like black is rare (black is rare!?) White has pink or white skin?!?!
Or that Dun sometimes has a dorsal stripe!
Most colours do not need any sort of genetic testing for identification, particularly the main ones. The trickier ones are what the base colour on a champagne horse is and pearl looking like cream but for the most part I can tell you what colour a horse is without any testing and so can many other people.

 

[Tnavas]

OMG!! Of course I know that, but they still hold a qualification to teach and those I have met in my 11 years of actual ownership shouldn't IMO be teaching and I wish I had found the sort of trainer I have now then. In somerset I was taught by a BHSII but she competed herself and was a good teacher too, and am now taught by and FBHS so it isn't like I don't know how the system works or have no experience of it. Whether they were both good teachers as AIs - likely but I didn't know them then.

No the basics are not still there. The basics are scarily way off.
You cannot say white, like black is rare (black is rare!?) White has pink or white skin?!?!
Or that Dun sometimes has a dorsal stripe!
Most colours do not need any sort of genetic testing for identification, particularly the main ones. The trickier ones are what the base colour on a champagne horse is and pearl looking like cream but for the most part I can tell you what colour a horse is without any testing and so can many other people.

Can you tell me which publication you used to show the descriptions of colours as they are certainly not in either of my PC Manuals - UK & NZ

Pure White TB's both dam & foal born at studs just up the road from my home

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[ester]

That is the BHS stage 1 manual Since when did PC come into this!?
Cute, which bits have white skin?, unpigmented would be a much more accurate description but pink, never white.
Dominant white horses are also on the would need to test which sort of dominant white if you were interested, but also not all W mutations are testable at times anyway. There have been interesting dominant whites produced from mixed W mutations too of late, particularly in gypsy cobs.

I didn't say white horses didn't exist so I don't really understand your point. I was pointing out that I didn't see black as rare, or that white horses could have white or pink skin .

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I'm never sure if you're deliberately obtuse, or just not able to understand things very well. I think I've made it abundantly clear that my issue is with the low standards of AIs coming through the current system, who have no further experience beyond [current] s3 level. In my opinion, it is entirely possible for a competent rider to get through the current s3 exams with very little effort. And it's entirely possible for numpties to get through it with a great deal more effort, but remain utter numpties at the end of it. You're welcome to disagree, but no amount wailing on your part will change my mind on it.

As for my opinion affecting how people think of AIs, I'd imagine you're doing a good enough job of that for yourself...

Name calling is one of your specialities and I am now using Ui, I think it is a habit of yours to throw insults to me and others, I think you like making a drama out of things or showing your true colours on here so now at least I don't have to see the snarky comments you seem to make in most of your posts. We cannot seem to have any discussion without you insulting me or someone else so obviously it comes naturally to you. It is one thing agreeing or disagreeing with someone but it is a cheap shot continually throwing personal insults to someone you don't know and it happens all to often with your replies. There are people out there who do not know the genetics of horse colours, why does that make them idiots?
Just as well you are not qualified as no one would live up to your so called superior standards of horsemanship. Talk about up yourself, it gets boring repeating myself about how rude your being with people who are learning.

We are supposed to help - teach and advise the new kids on the block not slate people calling them numpties or idiots so ........<click>

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Can you tell me which publication you used to show the descriptions of colours as they are certainly not in either of my PC Manuals - UK & NZ

Pure White TB's both dam & foal born at studs just up the road from my home

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Tnavas
I been wondering as I have taught many a disable client as we had some horses who acted different when they had dissabled riders on them in the riding school. Do you ever get any dissabled students coming through the system over there.?

We had a lovely girl at Fulmer who was paralized below the waist and had her stirrups tied to the girth but she rode so well and it was a livery horse belonging to another lady, this lovely horse changed and knew when she was on board and responded to her weight shift ( which horses do ) but she was brilliant in dressage this girl. How she stayed on and sat so still was really impressive in canter and jumping

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

OMG! Can you not comprehend that AI - means assistant instructor - one who still needs to be supervised to enable them to progress! It is the first rung of the teaching ladder - of course there will be some at the lower end and some at the upper end of knowledge and experience. You experience must be very limited - because I have managed to find several very capable AI's that I employed to teach in my riding school in New Zealand!

As far as colours go - while genetic knowledge is far more understood - many of the colours can only be defined by the results of genetic testing. The basics are still there.

could not say better myself *5

You own a riding school??? wow impressive do you have any cheeky monkeys like we had at Park Farm like Sky - Jigsaw - and Nig*er can't put the other G in but that little pony was so cheeky used to roll with the kids

 

[Tnavas]

That is the BHS stage 1 manual Since when did PC come into this!?
Cute, which bits have white skin?, unpigmented would be a much more accurate description but pink, never white.
Dominant white horses are also on the would need to test which sort of dominant white if you were interested, but also not all W mutations are testable at times anyway. There have been interesting dominant whites produced from mixed W mutations too of late, particularly in gypsy cobs.

I didn't say white horses didn't exist so I don't really understand your point. I was pointing out that I didn't see black as rare, or that white horses could have white or pink skin .

The Pony Club manuals were what it was all once based on - looks like I will have to buy some new books.

As to the photos I just thought you would enjoy our surprise - the dams dam was chestnut - the first white foal was a real shock to the stud. Then when the foal (grown up) went to stud she also produced a white foal.

 

[Tnavas]

could not say better myself *5

You own a riding school??? wow impressive do you have any cheeky monkeys like we had at Park Farm like Sky - Jigsaw - and Nig*er can't put the other G in but that little pony was so cheeky used to roll with the kids

Hi - no longer have the school sadly - the owner decided to take it back when the lease expired - yes we had real cheeky ponies too - Gwenny the only mare - who would suddenly go in reverse, squealing, when coming into season. Algie who would bolt if the rider on board screamed,Olly who was so programmed, that we had to talk in code and Shorty (generally called 5h1tty by the instructors!) who would decide from day to day whether or not he was capable of jumping. One of the school horses went to UK and became a 2* eventer.

As far as Park Farm goes, I studied at Radnage but took my exam at Park Farm, my subject - Transitions up and down to canter, it was summer and we did the teaching out in a big field. Sad to hear it's gone had some lovely memories of competitions held there.

I used to teach a blind man and because of his size he was only able to ride on particular horse who was known to be quite nasty - the faces he'd pull when people came into his yard were no bluff - he would bite or kick if he felt so inclined. However he was just awesome with this blind rider - never ever got aggressive, allowed him to feel all over without a murmur - horses are quite amazing

 

[JFTDWS]

Name calling is one of your specialities and I am now using Ui, I think it is a habit of yours to throw insults to me and others, I think you like making a drama out of things or showing your true colours on here so now at least I don't have to see the snarky comments you seem to make in most of your posts. We cannot seem to have any discussion without you insulting me or someone else so obviously it comes naturally to you. It is one thing agreeing or disagreeing with someone but it is a cheap shot continually throwing personal insults to someone you don't know and it happens all to often with your replies. There are people out there who do not know the genetics of horse colours, why does that make them idiots?
Just as well you are not qualified as no one would live up to your so called superior standards of horsemanship. Talk about up yourself, it gets boring repeating myself about how rude your being with people who are learning.

We are supposed to help - teach and advise the new kids on the block not slate people calling them numpties or idiots so ........<click>

Umm, I haven't called you any names. You have called me a fair few. I think you're a wee bit confused there. You seem determined to place yourself in the "numpty" category of AIs, rather than the competent riders - both categories I acknowledged the existence of in that post. Do you have self esteem issues, or are you deliberately trying to pick a fight?

For the record, I have no obligation to teach any "new kids on the block", who according to you are also the best instructors out there - I'm not a riding instructor and I have no desire to be. My only obligation is to my horse - to choose the best trainers for their long term soundness and progression.

 

[Tnavas]

But even an idiot can understand the difference between dun and buckskin - surely even someone at the lowest level of instructor training can manage that... The kids in pony club can, if taught the right basics!

- they could also be taught lateral movements at D level too but they are only little people, they don't retain enough knowledge, you didn't learn the formula for a quadratic equation when you were 9yrs old - you learn and are taught in levels - AI is the first level - riders learn the basics of teaching, lesson control, safety and school exercises - they are not expected to teach lateral work or take a rider to Olympic level. THEY ARE ON THE FIRST RUNG OF THE TEACHING LADDER. As an examiner we are reminded that we must ask ourselves this question every time "If this rider/instructor continues on the right lines will they improve" Also Examine what you see on the day - some riders will be far more advanced than others taking the exam, but if they have shown that meet the criteria for the exam then they are so.

I'm never sure if you're deliberately obtuse, or just not able to understand things very well. I think I've made it abundantly clear that my issue is with the low standards of AIs coming through the current system, who have no further experience beyond [current] s3 level. In my opinion, it is entirely possible for a competent rider to get through the current s3 exams with very little effort. And it's entirely possible for numpties to get through it with a great deal more effort, but remain utter numpties at the end of it. You're welcome to disagree, but no amount wailing on your part will change my mind on it.

As for my opinion affecting how people think of AIs, I'd imagine you're doing a good enough job of that for yourself...

The standards are not low, they are the standard required by BHS to pass the FIRST LEVEL of teaching - as said above - there will always be some that are far better - they may only be doing the AI - because they have to before they can do the II and then the I - often overseas students go and work on all three in a short space of time.

I too find some of your comments offensive!

Stage 3 riding is the required level - many will be riding at that level - many may be riding above that level - Stage 3 is the minimum requirement. Don't knock people because they are currently at the lower level of knowledge - you too look like you could do with some help with your jumping position! Your picture shows a very average Stage 3 position!

 

[JFTDWS]

The standards are not low, they are the standard required by BHS to pass the FIRST LEVEL of teaching - as said above - there will always be some that are far better - they may only be doing the AI - because they have to before they can do the II and then the I - often overseas students go and work on all three in a short space of time.

I too find some of your comments offensive!

Stage 3 riding is the required level - many will be riding at that level - many may be riding above that level - Stage 3 is the minimum requirement. Don't knock people because they are currently at the lower level of knowledge - you too look like you could do with some help with your jumping position! Your picture shows a very average Stage 3 position!

Yes, but you're missing the point - an AI who markets themselves as an instructor is on the first rung of the ladder. Fine - but this equally means that they are not prepared to teach people at higher levels, and often have a fairly basic knowledge. This is exactly what I have been saying. Some will be far better than others. Also what I'm saying.

You may think the standards are high. I disagree. You can be as offended as you like by that. I hold those opinions and they're frankly none of your business - much like my jumping position. As I said before, I'm not a professional, and I don't market myself as an instructor, so whether my jumping position is stage 3, or fit to go around Badminton is irrelevant. I get paid for things I am extremely qualified to do. I choose to pay instructors who I deem to be far better qualified than the average AI. That's my choice, and I'm entitled to inform the OP of that when she asks what people look for in an instructor.

You can shout about BHS supremacy all you like, but your opinion of its worth is no more valid than mine.

 

[Tnavas]

Yes, but you're missing the point - an AI who markets themselves as an instructor is on the first rung of the ladder. Fine - but this equally means that they are not prepared to teach people at higher levels, and often have a fairly basic knowledge. This is exactly what I have been saying. Some will be far better than others. Also what I'm saying.

You may think the standards are high. I disagree. You can be as offended as you like by that. I hold those opinions and they're frankly none of your business - much like my jumping position. As I said before, I'm not a professional, and I don't market myself as an instructor, so whether my jumping position is stage 3, or fit to go around Badminton is irrelevant. I get paid for things I am extremely qualified to do. I choose to pay instructors who I deem to be far better qualified than the average AI. That's my choice, and I'm entitled to inform the OP of that when she asks what people look for in an instructor.

You can shout about BHS supremacy all you like, but your opinion of its worth is no more valid than mine.

an AI who markets themselves as an instructor is on the first rung of the ladder. Fine - but this equally means that they are not prepared to teach people at higher levels,

You have to start somewhere! The ability to teach at a higher level comes with experience and practice - I know that when I was first qualified I was not ready to teach more than beginners and up to stage 3 - but as I gained more teaching hours my ability to teach to a higher level increased - Now I teach to A level - I even have a couple of my students pass A/H with Honours - I'm still only an AI as I didn't have the funds or time to spend training. I also have my S4 and BHSI Stable Manager. I'm also a B examiner

You may think the standards are high Where did I say this? I said the standard is what BHS require for an AI. They are not variable.

I choose to pay instructors who I deem to be far better qualified than the average AI. That's my choice, and I'm entitled to inform the OP of that when she asks what people look for in an instructor.

It is your choice, but not your right to be rude and so negative about those that have made the effort to better themselves by following the professional path. And this is what gave the UK instructors a chance in equestrian life - that the BHS qualifications were considered a professional qualification. They have been the foundation for the UK and in fact the rest of the world - the qualification sort after by many countries, examiners at one time would travel the world to give those in far countries the chance to gain a worthwhile qualification.

You reckon you pay an instructor who you deem better than an AI and I point out to you that he/she has not done much for your jumping or for your flat position. Me a mere AI notice that in your first picture you have collapsed your right side, dropping your right shoulder - you are sitting crooked. In your jumping picture - you back is hunched and your elbows are stuck out - I have C level riders who can ride better - and what a pity they are taught by a mere AI - they will never amount to much, oh! but then I forget two of mine have ridden for New Zealand and one has a full A with honours and the other H with honours.

 

[FfionWinnie]

I don't think you can say that any one type of trainer will be forward thinking or otherwise .
The most off the wall open minded trainer I have ever worked with is an FBHS .

I think I said it was my personal experience. The BHS instructors I know are stuffy old women who have not achieved anything for years if ever.

 

[JFTDWS]

You reckon you pay an instructor who you deem better than an AI and I point out to you that he/she has not done much for your jumping or for your flat position. Me a mere AI notice that in your first picture you have collapsed your right side, dropping your right shoulder - you are sitting crooked. In your jumping picture - you back is hunched and your elbows are stuck out - I have C level riders who can ride better - and what a pity they are taught by a mere AI - they will never amount to much, oh!

I think your unsolicited opinion is somewhat unprofessional, but I'll play ball:

1. What makes you think that I - a rider who has no BHS qualificatons at all - cannot see all the minute flaws in my own riding myself? There's very little skill involved in that.

2. What makes you think that my trainers haven't also seen and made efforts to improve my position? (FYI, the only jumping lessons I've ever had have been from AIs - but that doesn't fit into your narrative, does it?)

3. My skill in the saddle is actually irrelevant at this point - it's childish point scoring. I am neither the only, nor a representative product of "non-BHS" training (FYI my most regular trainer is internationally qualified in, I believe, a European qualification, so you're also knocking the European equivalents - is that a good outcome for your line of argument?). I would also suggest that I am probably no worse than the average student of the average AI - you might argue differently, but I would suggest the standard of the average rider in the UK supports my assertion there. The basic premise of your argument is flawed.

The only thing you could achieve with those comments would be to upset me, because you're not actually making the BHS out to be any better by your comments. Fortunately for me, I don't value your opinion and I shan't lose sleep over it

 

[FfionWinnie]

Oh Dear! If its not broke - why try to fix it - lets consider Carl Hester and Charlotte Dujardan - both classical riders of the old school!

So do we have a new way to teach riders? - has the basic position of riders changed? Over the years I've noticed a big change in the attitude and manner of riders - At one time riders listened, co-operated and tried what their coach had suggested. WE now have to deal with spoilt, arrogant brats who think they know it all. Recently one of pony club members answered back to the coach - a one time member of the NZ team, the same child told one of her coaches she didn't know what she was talking about - child is 13 - coach has ridden Badmintona couple of times.

Forward thinking does not have to be outside of the classical - a horse well schooled classically as in Spanish Riding School (the bases of BHS teachings) is a dream to ride. No force needed, no aggressive aids.


Personally I find many of the modern riders very rough, untidy and lacking in fineness. Getting over the jump by any means outweighs the horses comfort, a well balanced rider sitting tight and quiet is far nicer for the horse to cope with.

I wouldn't want a rubbish coach I already said that the ones I use are at the top of their game.

At the end of the day I ride my horse for leisure purposes. I want an instructor who improves my riding and gives me an enjoyable hour while doing so.

I think you are very rude to insult someone's riding. I don't remember seeing any photos at all of the main pro BHS people on this thread so please don't slag off the people who do put themselves out there. You've just made yourself look very nasty.

 

[Tnavas]

I wouldn't want a rubbish coach I already said that the ones I use are at the top of their game.

At the end of the day I ride my horse for leisure purposes. I want an instructor who improves my riding and gives me an enjoyable hour while doing so.

I think you are very rude to insult someone's riding. I don't remember seeing any photos at all of the main pro BHS people on this thread so please don't slag off the people who do put themselves out there. You've just made yourself look very nasty.

I was giving her a taste of her own medicine! - she has been quite obnoxious and derogatory about those of us that have worked hard for our BHS qualifications. What I have pointed out is that the unqualified coach she has who is supposed to know so much has not done a lot for her riding!

Just an observation!

 

[JFTDWS]

I was giving her a taste of her own medicine! - she has been quite obnoxious and derogatory about those of us that have worked hard for our BHS qualifications.

At no point, Tnavas, did I say anything obnoxious or derogatory towards you personally. I'm sorry you can't seem to understand the difference between "some AIs" and "all AIs", and insist that my suggestion that the AI qualification in itself (that is, the ability to ride to current s3 exam level) is insufficient, means that I am saying "all AIs have insufficient training". Despite me saying that explicitly, repeatedly in this thread. I can't insult your riding - as far as I'm aware, you've never graced us with anything to judge. I can't insult your instructional skill either as I don't know you - although you clearly feel that every single comment I have directed at the BHS system reflects on you personally. That's some arrogance, but hey ho.

 

[Tnavas]

At no point, Tnavas, did I say anything obnoxious or derogatory towards you personally. I'm sorry you can't seem to understand the difference between "some AIs" and "all AIs", and insist that my suggestion that the AI qualification in itself (that is, the ability to ride to current s3 exam level) is insufficient, means that I am saying "all AIs have insufficient training". Despite me saying that explicitly, repeatedly in this thread. I can't insult your riding - as far as I'm aware, you've never graced us with anything to judge. I can't insult your instructional skill either as I don't know you - although you clearly feel that every single comment I have directed at the BHS system reflects on you personally. That's some arrogance, but hey ho.

Your comments about the AI has been very generalised which is what I have objected to - others have pointed out the same thing. Dote around H & H forums there are pictures of me and my students - you'll just have to go looking for them.!

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I was giving her a taste of her own medicine! - she has been quite obnoxious and derogatory about those of us that have worked hard for our BHS qualifications. What I have pointed out is that the unqualified coach she has who is supposed to know so much has not done a lot for her riding!

Just an observation!

5* like TN well said

 

[FfionWinnie]

I was giving her a taste of her own medicine! - she has been quite obnoxious and derogatory about those of us that have worked hard for our BHS qualifications. What I have pointed out is that the unqualified coach she has who is supposed to know so much has not done a lot for her riding!

Just an observation!

She didn't say anything against you as an AI did she. Nor did she say "all AIs are" anything.

So really not a "taste of her own medicine" but an incredibly hurtful and nasty thing to say.

I can't believe you think it's ok to pick holes in a rider in the way you have. Is that the BHS way too?

 

[FfionWinnie]

5* like TN well said

That's a highly ironic sig line you have in that case.

 

[Tnavas]

She didn't say anything against you as an AI did she. Nor did she say "all AIs are" anything.

So really not a "taste of her own medicine" but an incredibly hurtful and nasty thing to say.

I can't believe you think it's ok to pick holes in a rider in the way you have. Is that the BHS way too?

I suggest that you go back and re read all her posts, she was knocking AI's in general. Her posts have been rude, referring to AI's as numpties. I find that offensive!

 

[FfionWinnie]

I suggest that you go back and re read all her posts, she was knocking AI's in general. Her posts have been rude, referring to AI's as numpties. I find that offensive!

I have read her posts. I have also read your posts and HGA's posts.

It seems to me both you and HGA are unable to understand JFTD's use of language correctly. This has led you to interpret her words as a personal attack on yourselves when it's not, and it's her opinion based on her experience.

The pair of you come across as rude bullies way before JFTD responds with a little dig (and that's not directed at you either Tnavas).

I am perhaps in the unique position on this thread of having had a (free) school master lesson from JFTD on one of her horses, when I was down viewing a horse in her neck of the 'woods. That hour was one of the most enlightening of my entire life.

In my youth I didn't have many lessons but the ones I had were very much BHS style lessons.

In the last few years I have had 3 lessons a month from a UKCC coach who is at the top of his game as a SJer and without exception has improved every horse I have taken for a lesson with his ability to think things through. I am in no way one of his talented competition riders. I probably depressingly fall into his middle aged mummy types of clients but he puts the same effort into teaching me on my cob as he does someone else who is competing BS on a proper SJer.

My other instructor has her stage 4, but like JFTD is getting at, this isn't all she has and she is competing Advanced Medium level British Dressage and Novice British Eventing very successfully.

I've tried other instructors both BHS and other qualifications / no qualifications and in my experience the BHS trained instructors tend to be stuffy old school people with a "whole ride prepare to be bored" attitude. Which isn't for me. Now please note I have said "tend to be" and "in my experience" that isn't a personal attack on you or anyone, it's me relaying my experiences. Which is essentially what a forum is about.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Whatever the level of qualification, the instructor must be interested in the rider's position, and how best to correct it so that the rider sits in balance with their horse. (I write as someone who can sit crookedly with the best of them ).

There are so many dismounted ways to improve rider fitness and position these days, too, eg Equipilates, osteopathy, physio, riding simulators to help riders. It's good if the instructor will refer their pupils on to some of these if necessary.

The best trainer I had was a BHSI who was by her own admission a fairly ordinary rider, with modest competition results, but by 'eck she could teach.

 

[ester]

Stage 3 riding is the required level - many will be riding at that level - many may be riding above that level - Stage 3 is the minimum requirement. Don't knock people because they are currently at the lower level of knowledge - you too look like you could do with some help with your jumping position! Your picture shows a very average Stage 3 position!

And some aren't riding at that level, my PC H test trained friend has never ridden XC, at any level, in fact I am not sure she has ever gone over a solid fence, she was also lucky because it was too wet to do the XC component of their stage 3 riding so they just had to ride up a couple of banks.

 

[Asha]

Could someone tell me which qualifications I would need to start teaching please?

Many thanks

Well OP I bet you didn't expect to open up some a can of worms with such a relatively simple question !

I have very little advice, as I'm not a teacher , but if you where my daughter ( I'm assuming you are young ) I would research the best riding schools, those with the best results, and most happy clients. The tinternet is a wonderful place. Then I'd contact them and ask them what qualifications they expect when recruiting, and find out why.

Then contact the BHS and ask them too.

I would also contact the Pony club , ask them what they recommend.

Freelance may be a little different. The instructors I use come from word of mouth and I have no idea what qualifications they have. But what they do have in abundance is the ability to understand me. Understand how far they can push me, they also have lots of actual competition experience in my chosen field.

 

[ester]

I suggest that you go back and re read all her posts, she was knocking AI's in general. Her posts have been rude, referring to AI's as numpties. I find that offensive!

Exactly in general (not ALL but the majority), SOME AIs as numpties not YOU!
You chose to include yourself in that majority and be offended.
Completely different to having personal digs.