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Unsure where this would be most useful so I imagine ADMIN will decide on its final resting place 
I know many on this site have vehicles over 3.5 tonnes (3500 kgs) plated GVW (MAM) in which they transport horses so I hope this info will be helpful
My info in this thread will concentrate on what is required for the PRIVATE (NOT COMMERCIAL) driving of RIGID LORRY horseboxes over 3.5 tonnes and what is needed to take the LGV test for either LGV C1 (up to 7.5 tonnes) and LGV C (all rigid lorries)
LICENCES
The age for drivng ANY LGV was lowered to age 18 from age 21 on 10 Setember 2009
LGV rigid C1 = 3.5 to 7.5 tonnes
LGV rigid C = 3.5 to any weight
DRIVER CPC (DCPC)
This is NOT required for the PRIVATE driving of any LGV ..... with one minor exception ....
Those who are under age 21 and wish to drive a PRIVATE LGV OVER 7.5 tonnes GVW on the public highway AFTER passing the LGV C test WILL need to take and pass the INITIAL LGV DCPC
They will not be required to take any of the 35 hours of LGV PERIODIC training because the INITIAL lasts for 5 years and that easily covers the age period from 18 to 21
As the likelyhood of anyone under age 21 will be driving a PRIVATE LGV over 7.5 tonnes is rare then I will only go deeper into the INITIAL LGV DCPC if needed.
LGV TRAINING
Firstly a WARNING - there are many LGV training BROKERS out there who set themselves up as 'middlemen' between the potential trainee and the actual LGV training schools. Many of these BROKERS shut up shop without any prior warning leaving trainees without the training and their money !!
ALWAYS VISIT THE LGV TRAINING SCHOOL OF YOUR CHOICE BEFORE PARTING WITH ANY MONEY
A recommendation is the best way of choosing a LGV training school and having DSA registered instructors or not makes absolutely no difference in the quality of training you will get.
Many LGV schools offer 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 training so you can have a chat with them and decide which is best for YOU
1 to 1 half days OR 2 to 1 all day training is the norm but do not be tempted to go for 1 to 1 all day because in most cases the brain cannot handle that sort of intense concentration for that continous length of time.
If you only want a C1 and not a C licence then consider these points ....
The training is virtually the same time and price if done in 'lorries' and the only difference will be the type of gearbox used
If the C1 training is being offered in something like a large 5 tonne VAN then that may be a cheaper and easier option but it will not prepare you that well for when you first get into a C1 7.5 tonne 'lorry'.
There are no air brakes in a VAN !!
The general cost and time for the LGV practical on-road training in the UK including the test fee is around £1,000 over 5 days with the test being on day 5
Retests will be extra and cost around £300 each time.
NOTE:- these are rough times and figures and will vary across the UK
SUPERVISING OF LGV TRAINEES
In April 2010 new laws came into force for the supervising of any LGV trainee.
To supervise a LGV trainee (provisional licence holder) the supervising driver MUST have passsed the DSA LGV test which covers the LGV category in which they are supervising and have held that category for 3+ years.
Normal car type L plates are required as well as the correct insurance for a learner in that category - contact your insurance company first.
Those with only a pre 1997 C1 on their licence CANNOT use that to supervise a LGV C1 learner
APPLYING FOR LGV PROVISIONAL
DVLA forms D2 and D4 will be needed DVLA FORM ORDERING
On the D2 form tick C & D only - this will cover al LGV & PCV medical and provisional needs for now and in the future.
The D4 is the medical form and does NOT have to be done by your own GP but can be done with ANY DOCTOR so shop around for the best deal - Searching on the internet for - LGV MEDICAL - will bring up some who do it for around £50
Once the licence with the provisional on it has come back from DVLA then the theory tests can be taken followed by the booking of the practical course.
THE LGV THEORY AND PRACTICAL TESTS
These days they are often called modules.
Module 1a = The multiple choice test
Module 1b = The HPT test
Module 2 = Initial driver cpc theory - SEE DRIVER CPC (DCPC) SECTION AT THE START OF THIS POST
Module 3 = 1 hour practical road drive plus the REVERSE EXCERCISE - VIDEO and 5 SHOW ME/TELL ME QUESTIONS (click the PCV/LGV tab in that link)
Module 4 = Initial driver cpc practical - SEE DRIVER CPC (DCPC) SECTION AT THE START OF THIS POST
This VOSA GUIDE is well worth a read as it deals with many issues surrounding what is and is not considered PRIVATE or COMMERCIAL LGV DRIVING
I hope the above has been useful and please feel free to ask any questions which have not been answered
DISCLAIMER:- I have no connection to any companies which are featured in any of those links
INFO REQUIRED ON DEFRA OR OTHER CONCERNS WHEN TRANSPORTING HORSES WILL BE GREATLY RECEIVED so please add any such info in replies to this post so all can read - THANK YOU
I know many on this site have vehicles over 3.5 tonnes (3500 kgs) plated GVW (MAM) in which they transport horses so I hope this info will be helpful
My info in this thread will concentrate on what is required for the PRIVATE (NOT COMMERCIAL) driving of RIGID LORRY horseboxes over 3.5 tonnes and what is needed to take the LGV test for either LGV C1 (up to 7.5 tonnes) and LGV C (all rigid lorries)
LICENCES
The age for drivng ANY LGV was lowered to age 18 from age 21 on 10 Setember 2009
LGV rigid C1 = 3.5 to 7.5 tonnes
LGV rigid C = 3.5 to any weight
DRIVER CPC (DCPC)
This is NOT required for the PRIVATE driving of any LGV ..... with one minor exception ....
Those who are under age 21 and wish to drive a PRIVATE LGV OVER 7.5 tonnes GVW on the public highway AFTER passing the LGV C test WILL need to take and pass the INITIAL LGV DCPC
They will not be required to take any of the 35 hours of LGV PERIODIC training because the INITIAL lasts for 5 years and that easily covers the age period from 18 to 21
As the likelyhood of anyone under age 21 will be driving a PRIVATE LGV over 7.5 tonnes is rare then I will only go deeper into the INITIAL LGV DCPC if needed.
LGV TRAINING
Firstly a WARNING - there are many LGV training BROKERS out there who set themselves up as 'middlemen' between the potential trainee and the actual LGV training schools. Many of these BROKERS shut up shop without any prior warning leaving trainees without the training and their money !!
ALWAYS VISIT THE LGV TRAINING SCHOOL OF YOUR CHOICE BEFORE PARTING WITH ANY MONEY
A recommendation is the best way of choosing a LGV training school and having DSA registered instructors or not makes absolutely no difference in the quality of training you will get.
Many LGV schools offer 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 training so you can have a chat with them and decide which is best for YOU
1 to 1 half days OR 2 to 1 all day training is the norm but do not be tempted to go for 1 to 1 all day because in most cases the brain cannot handle that sort of intense concentration for that continous length of time.
If you only want a C1 and not a C licence then consider these points ....
The training is virtually the same time and price if done in 'lorries' and the only difference will be the type of gearbox used
If the C1 training is being offered in something like a large 5 tonne VAN then that may be a cheaper and easier option but it will not prepare you that well for when you first get into a C1 7.5 tonne 'lorry'.
There are no air brakes in a VAN !!
The general cost and time for the LGV practical on-road training in the UK including the test fee is around £1,000 over 5 days with the test being on day 5
Retests will be extra and cost around £300 each time.
NOTE:- these are rough times and figures and will vary across the UK
SUPERVISING OF LGV TRAINEES
In April 2010 new laws came into force for the supervising of any LGV trainee.
To supervise a LGV trainee (provisional licence holder) the supervising driver MUST have passsed the DSA LGV test which covers the LGV category in which they are supervising and have held that category for 3+ years.
Normal car type L plates are required as well as the correct insurance for a learner in that category - contact your insurance company first.
Those with only a pre 1997 C1 on their licence CANNOT use that to supervise a LGV C1 learner
APPLYING FOR LGV PROVISIONAL
DVLA forms D2 and D4 will be needed DVLA FORM ORDERING
On the D2 form tick C & D only - this will cover al LGV & PCV medical and provisional needs for now and in the future.
The D4 is the medical form and does NOT have to be done by your own GP but can be done with ANY DOCTOR so shop around for the best deal - Searching on the internet for - LGV MEDICAL - will bring up some who do it for around £50
Once the licence with the provisional on it has come back from DVLA then the theory tests can be taken followed by the booking of the practical course.
THE LGV THEORY AND PRACTICAL TESTS
These days they are often called modules.
Module 1a = The multiple choice test
Module 1b = The HPT test
Module 2 = Initial driver cpc theory - SEE DRIVER CPC (DCPC) SECTION AT THE START OF THIS POST
Module 3 = 1 hour practical road drive plus the REVERSE EXCERCISE - VIDEO and 5 SHOW ME/TELL ME QUESTIONS (click the PCV/LGV tab in that link)
Module 4 = Initial driver cpc practical - SEE DRIVER CPC (DCPC) SECTION AT THE START OF THIS POST
This VOSA GUIDE is well worth a read as it deals with many issues surrounding what is and is not considered PRIVATE or COMMERCIAL LGV DRIVING
I hope the above has been useful and please feel free to ask any questions which have not been answered
DISCLAIMER:- I have no connection to any companies which are featured in any of those links
INFO REQUIRED ON DEFRA OR OTHER CONCERNS WHEN TRANSPORTING HORSES WILL BE GREATLY RECEIVED so please add any such info in replies to this post so all can read - THANK YOU
