To Stallion or not to Stallion...

"On a public forum people will disagree with you, and horsey people are invariably blunt in their opinions. I don't see anyone being rude or aggressive, just questioning. This forum has a wealth of experience, but if you need constant reassurance and apologies then it may not be the place for you."

"Then I shall be happy to take my leave."

Oh, come on and keep us updated. She wasn't slagging you off, just explaining why people were sceptical, which is fair enough. If you've spent any time in the horse world, you'd know 'constant reassurances and apologies,' on or offline, are as common as yetis and velociraptors.
 
I think it could be true that the trainer wants to sell the horse to one of his trainees who rides her own PRE to high level. And that the person who has the money to buy it is the OH, so everyone, including him, is allowing him to believe that the horse will be `his`.

The timing of his departure very soon after it was identified where and who he was talking about, the timing of the thread at half term, the excess of detail when claiming to only want the answer to a simple question about the pros and cons of keeping a stallion and the manufacture of anger about a pretty innocuous post to justify a flounce do suggest a troll though.

It's certainly someone very well educated from the writing!

I'd like it to be true, I think it could be, but if it isn't it was quite a good one, and harmless, apart from not apologising for misquoting me and then saying what I wrote was sarcastic and twisting the words of others trying to warn him it might be a scam.

He was still reading and posting likes this morning including on this post, so maybe he'll come back and we'll find out.

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ycbm said:
I think it could be true that the trainer wants to sell the horse to one of his trainees who rides her own PRE to high level. And that the person who has the money to buy it is the OH, so everyone, including him, is allowing him to believe that the horse will be his.

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I think this could very likely be true.

However, I must day that the hyper sensitivity and, dare I say anger, when questioned on the finer details, does make me wonder...

As you say though YCBM, no harm done either way.
 
Over wordy. Novel like, in fact. I’m often guilty of writing posts which are far too long, but the epic-like proportions are daunting, frankly.

Whilst I understand being dazzled by a Haute École stallion, it is, as the OP said himself, like driving an Aston Martin, when really, you’d be better off with an old Landy for rumbling round country roads.
 
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Nejc trained at the famous stud farm Lipica, the National Lipizzaner stud of Slovenia where he was taught by George Val of the Spanish Riding School of Vienna and learned to perform the haute ecole movements levade, courbette capriole as well as all the most advanced ground movements.
An immensely talented horseman and trainer, Nejc`s experience is not limited to high school dressage. He has worked with horses and riders at all levels and has trained carriage horses to world class level.

He currently has two horses in training in the UK, an Andalusian, Beato and a young Lippizanner stallion, Zen.
National champion Hartbury college Prix st George
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http://www.fitzworthyequestrian.co.uk/fitzworthy-events.php?DOC_INST=36
 
Interestingly the rider does not appear to have a BD record well not under the spelling of the surname given. The National championships are held at Stoneleigh (sp!) the Winter championships are held at Hartpury and do not go as high as PSG.
 
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Interestingly the rider does not appear to have a BD record well not under the spelling of the surname given.
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That's pretty normal for people who ride Iberians at a high level, I think. If he graduated from The Spanish Riding School and trains up to capriole, I doubt he feels the need to prove himself at BD. The people local to me who compete up to GP on Lusitanos only ride at competitions for Iberians, I think.

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The OP mentions that he/she has sent pics/vids of him/her trying the horse to ‘senior’ members of the forum (is that membership or age???!!!😜) - maybe they can at least tell us how it went? Did it seem ok?
 
Who was identified? Is that against the forum rules to try to identify someone? Is that even what happened? I didn’t see anyone being identified. Could someone please explain?

Edit: OK, I see, the breeder was identified. Sorry!!
 
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Might have been breed specific not BD GBPRE have their national champs at hartpury.
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That is not open to Lipizzaners only pure and part bred Pre horses. The Iberian championships are PRE and Lusitano pure and part breds. So not sure what championship they were taking part in as can find nothing for Lipizzaners!!
 
jojo5 said:
The OP mentions that he/she has sent pics/vids of him/her trying the horse to ‘senior’ members of the forum (is that membership or age???!!!😜) - maybe they can at least tell us how it went? Did it seem ok?
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Another point that sends me slightly towards troll. If he had done, why would he swear them to secrecy? And if they weren't sworn to secrecy, wouldn't at least one of them have posted `I've seen the videos, this is real? Why wouldn't he have asked one of them to do that if he's upset at being disbelieved?

At the very least, we're being played like a fish on a line here 😁 🎣

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Good, I'd love it to be real and for him to start a thread about the journey if he buys him.
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I was totally intrigued by this story, not sure what to think so didn't contribute and yes i'd like to follow the story too. I met someone recently at a training who had a GP schoolmaster on loan from a well known rider. she felt very lucky to have the opportunity as she wasn't really a dressage rider but she was a very experienced show producer who clearly had a very good standard of riding. She was making me laugh by relating her first experiences of riding this lovely huge horse, she said she struggled to get him to walk and tended to passage and piaffe all the time, couldn't find a working trot and canter was a complete non starter. It wasn't just the buttons and sensitivity of the horse that she had to learn to deal with but also it's huge movement. she was having such fun as the horse was relatively forgiving and she was getting a lot of help. I can only assume the OP was dumbing down his experience and ability to ride but I thought the horse being a stallion was possibly the least of his worries. 'd love to know how he gets on though!
 
If it's the horse that was linked to earlier, it doesn't look like the OP would struggle in the same way, at least from videos that are available to the public on social media.
 
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I was totally intrigued by this story, not sure what to think so didn't contribute and yes i'd like to follow the story too. I met someone recently at a training who had a GP schoolmaster on loan from a well known rider. she felt very lucky to have the opportunity as she wasn't really a dressage rider but she was a very experienced show producer who clearly had a very good standard of riding. She was making me laugh by relating her first experiences of riding this lovely huge horse, she said she struggled to get him to walk and tended to passage and piaffe all the time, couldn't find a working trot and canter was a complete non starter. It wasn't just the buttons and sensitivity of the horse that she had to learn to deal with but also it's huge movement. she was having such fun as the horse was relatively forgiving and she was getting a lot of help. I can only assume the OP was dumbing down his experience and ability to ride but I thought the horse being a stallion was possibly the least of his worries. 'd love to know how he gets on though!
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I think sometimes you can also meet some incredibly generous people in the horse world or just be in the right place at the right time. I'd love to follow the progress too as it is an incredible opportunity :)
 
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Another point that sends me slightly towards troll. If he had done, why would he swear them to secrecy? And if they weren't sworn to secrecy, wouldn't at least one of them have posted `I've seen the videos, this is real? Why wouldn't he have asked one of them to do that if he's upset at being disbelieved?

At the very least, we're being played like a fish on a line here 😁 🎣

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Well, he's messaged me with a couple of photos, but that's his business, isn't it?
 
Hedgepig, now it's clear that this is for real, I'm still in the no camp for keeping a stallion in livery in the UK. I'm also on a no for not being motivated enough to ride for twenty years and then taking on this particular horse after that break. I'm on a no for a couple having horses at different livery yards. But if the current owner wants your girlfriend to ride the horse and you are kind enough to buy it on the basis that you may be playing second fiddle to her with your own horse, then go for it, it's the opportunity of a lifetime.

You had a tough start on the forum because you hit a number of hot buttons with your once in a lifetime opportunity and your elaborate way of talking about it. But I can guarantee you that the forum would absolutely love to hear about your journey with this horse if you buy him. And if you start a new thread about him, you will be welcomed and encouraged, not mocked.

Please consider it, the forum needs exciting stories like this to follow.
 
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