Moomin1
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Well in that case the answer is simple. Only open the Hersus threads
Today's session lists of progress
- Thread starter Armas
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Well in that case the answer is simple. Only open the Hersus threads
Queenbee
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Armas... I had enough 2 months ago... No offence but stop posting and subjecting us to such visual torture or give your horse q bleeding break and then gt the Portuguese rider with half a brain to ride your horse for you since you apparently can't ride him yourself!!
Queenbee
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Sorry armas... Now your videos make me sick... That's all. You said you would assess and adapt, you couldn't care less about armas, you are blindly plodding on with the most ineffectual and god awfully damaging rider possible! Shocking!!!
tonkatoy
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Quite unnecessary!!!!!!!!
zigzag
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If you don't like it, don't open the thread, how rude!!
Auslander
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Wow - obnoxious posts of the week. Love how you can dish it out packaged up in the "I'm not nasty, I'm just blunt and honest, and all I care about is the poor horse" packaging - but woe betide anyone who criticises you, your horse, or your own methods. I would be ashamed of myself if I was that rude to someone. Not cool. Not cool at all.
Goldenstar
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Agree rude and out of order last I looked we not compelled to look at any thread ,if you don't like the thread Queenbee simply dont read it .
ellie11987
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ellie11987
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Hear, hear!
Armas
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Sorry who are you to tell me what I can and cannot post on a horse forum, if you don't like my posts then don't read them simple. If you think this is torture then you need to escape la la land. I ride my horse week in week out but thank you for your insight.
If the videos make you sick, I would again respectfully suggest don't watch them. I am happy with the progress I am happy with the trainer. As for your comments that I could not careless about Armas have you been on the ardent spirits ? The only shocking thing is how rude and disgusting your post is.
Please would you be so kind as to post some videos of you training a sharp horse so we can have a look to see how well you ride & train. Odd are that will not happen.
I hope your vitriolic post has made you happy.
Goldenstar
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Armas ignore her.
Vindaloo
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Don't thing I've posted on these threads before, have watched many if not all vids and the only thing I am going to say is she has a rather snatchy inside and sometimes outside rein. It's almost as if she does it without realising, worst thing is, she does it just at the precise moment he goes to go in front of the vertical. She gets him all relaxed but then gives a little backwards pull and effectively stops him reaching properly forward.
He is not on a consistent contact, it's loose, snatch, loose. Or then tight, especially into trot, which is where I generally stop watching since I really can't stop looking for the snatch.
Possibly this stops further into the session, presumably when he is more accepting of the contact (should a consistent one be given at that point) Therefore rendering my observation totally innapropriate.
Just the musings of a total amateur, kind of out of the mouth of babes if you like.
Did like brown boots riding him, preferred him to this one in my humble and inexperienced opinion.
Very sweet horse, he has made me look at a PRE as a breed when I finally get home. I really like him.
He is not on a consistent contact, it's loose, snatch, loose. Or then tight, especially into trot, which is where I generally stop watching since I really can't stop looking for the snatch.
Possibly this stops further into the session, presumably when he is more accepting of the contact (should a consistent one be given at that point) Therefore rendering my observation totally innapropriate.
Just the musings of a total amateur, kind of out of the mouth of babes if you like.
Did like brown boots riding him, preferred him to this one in my humble and inexperienced opinion.
Very sweet horse, he has made me look at a PRE as a breed when I finally get home. I really like him.
ester
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I like it at 15.59 when she goes into forwards seat after he has had a stressy canter moment (she was poss going to ask him for a change?) and then when he goes back to trot he stretches right out (but then gets asked to come up again). I do think he is looking different though.
I still can't decide what I think, partly because I respect AdorableAlice's opinion (and would quite like to see her friend/rider on armas) and also Auslander and Milliepops... and a fair few more who have commented both ways so I think I've given up thinking on it
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I still can't decide what I think, partly because I respect AdorableAlice's opinion (and would quite like to see her friend/rider on armas) and also Auslander and Milliepops... and a fair few more who have commented both ways so I think I've given up thinking on it
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Purple18
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i'm saying my point you have yours but don't start pulling me in a stupid fight
it's not just my opinion though is it ? how many times before have people have said he looks unhappy uncomfortable lame etc etc there's many that think differently in no way am I saying my opinion is better than any other. but really what is the point in a opinions that are said over and over again they don't like what they see . I will not sit here and say Armas is working well and looks good because that would be a lie. I'm saying what I see. I honestly have no clue why James is still posting the sessions when all he gets in his view is negative( truthful ) posts back. every thread will all say the same things and nothing changes. if your looking for praise James I think you need another forum...
Armas
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The overriding opinion that counts for me is the vet and the trainer who both are working with me and the horse.
Both feel he is not lame but week behind and needs to build muscle I agree with that.
I post because its a forum and I am free to do so. I post because its interesting and many H&H have asked me to continue posting.
Why would every thread say exactly the same thing ? No two sessions are identical Long reining lunging pole work collected work etc.
If you don't like my threads don't read them. I would never expect praise but thanks for the dig.
Auslander
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I still can't decide what I think, partly because I respect AdorableAlice's opinion (and would quite like to see her friend/rider on armas) and also Auslander and Milliepops... and a fair few more who have commented both ways so I think I've given up thinking on it
I also respect AA's opinion - and she was perfectly polite in the way she expressed it, similar to Nikis post. I have no beef with that, and in private, I have given James a pretty hard time about aspects of Armas' training that I haven't agreed with. I do think this girl is getting somewhere, and is only the good bits were shown, I suspect the reaction would be different. James has chosen to show everything, which is a pretty brave decision. The posts I get cross about are the ones where the poster is just out to have a dig at James, or to carry on regurgitating the same old stuff (usually copied from someone else anyway) I just don't see the point of posting when the poster has no interest in commenting on the improvements - and is just using it as an excuse to keep banging the same old drum. Anyone who can't see that there is some really good work in amongst the bad stuff is pretty shortsighted really.
The horse doesn't go in a way that I find particularly pleasing to watch, and the rider doesn't ride him in a way that totally suits him - but she has improved him, and is continuing to improve him. It's a really interesting process to watch, and I think its sad that some people are determined not to see that they are getting there.
Auslander
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It's ok darling - I'm a lover, not a fighter
Purple18
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But why if he isn't lame why would time and time again many experience people keep saying something just doesn't look right. how can they all be wrong? fine if one person was saying it but check back all your threads and count how many users have said something about it.
even though something different long reining etc may be being done in different session the same sort of comments are made.
How can anyone avoid them there right at the top of the new posts most of the time.
I check in to see if something might have clicked and you and your trainer actually see what a lot of us see.
why keep asking for comments when you already know what the answers will be ? if certain posters want to watch then you have your facebook page why put yourself through this every time. I don't understand why when a lot of the time there's a fight
even though something different long reining etc may be being done in different session the same sort of comments are made.
How can anyone avoid them there right at the top of the new posts most of the time.
I check in to see if something might have clicked and you and your trainer actually see what a lot of us see.
why keep asking for comments when you already know what the answers will be ? if certain posters want to watch then you have your facebook page why put yourself through this every time. I don't understand why when a lot of the time there's a fight
Armas
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Its easy put me on block. Where exactly in this post did I ask for comments ? Again your statement is flawed. Are you now a moderator to say who can and can not post on a public forum ? The last time I looked you were not.
Auslander
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Darn it! Busted! My career is over!
Purple18
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I haven't even watched your newest video I don't need to look I will still say and see the same I have every time before. every post you post you are inviting comments you wouldn't post if it wasn't.
You seem very close minded to anyone's opinion your keeping this trainer your never going to listen to the concerns shown. have you noticed how many people that commented before are not here now ? were all fed up and tired I think your sessions have run there course. I'm sad to say I hoped the outcome would have been brighter.
Auslander
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Going to have a go at the numerous, very experienced people who have also acknowledged the improvements, or is just me in the firing line?
hihosilver
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I think we should all stop watching these videos. I see a beautiful horse in the field who is moving through his back and does not have his head stuck on his chest. He looks happy and sound. Then I see another video of the same horse head on chest not tracking up at all. Stiff on both reins behind. I have to check that this is the same beautiful free moving horse in the field...it is something is clearly very wrong.
Allover
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I only watch them in the hope that things are really getting better. Just call me disappointed from Herts
Armas
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What do you get out of being so rude. There are a number of well respected posters that are of the same opinion as Auslander why are you picking on her ? Thats another form of cyber bullying.
I respect Auslander, however at the end of the day the choice in trainer is my choice no one else's.
Goldenstar
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I do think a bit of perspective is in order here.
This is a horse who came to this trainer with the BTV evasion well and turely learnt .if JAmes wishes to post on here that's apsolutly fine it's his choice .
I laughed out loud at the poster a couple back who said we should all stop watching the videos I am sorry but frankly I don't need anyone telling me what to watch and not watch read or not read comment on or not comment on .i will do want I want when I want to ,how I want to.
If you don't like the threads don't read them but if you don't like others reading them watching videos whatever well your doomed to disappointment you can't be in charge of what others do on the forum.
There are loads of subjects that bore me witless I ignore them.
This is a horse who came to this trainer with the BTV evasion well and turely learnt .if JAmes wishes to post on here that's apsolutly fine it's his choice .
I laughed out loud at the poster a couple back who said we should all stop watching the videos I am sorry but frankly I don't need anyone telling me what to watch and not watch read or not read comment on or not comment on .i will do want I want when I want to ,how I want to.
If you don't like the threads don't read them but if you don't like others reading them watching videos whatever well your doomed to disappointment you can't be in charge of what others do on the forum.
There are loads of subjects that bore me witless I ignore them.
ozpoz
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Amandap's videos posted on the "ugly" thread, especially the one entitled 'walk' will help to explain what people are seeing and why they are not making positive comments - really worth a look.
JFTDWS
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Just you. You're special
I don't read all the threads, or watch all the videos, but I do find them interesting. Very few interesting threads on this forum at the moment, so I'd rather they didn't stop
Goldenstar
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From my point of view I do understand the comments but thanks anyway.
doriangrey
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FWIW I think James should be allowed to post what he wants and people should reply how they want - but within the realms of decency. What is the point of second guessing why he puts up the videos - his reasons for doing so should be respected. Why should they be received any differently from any other poster? What I don't get is the big divide here. I don't do dressage so I can't comment on his training etc, but I am a horse owner and I don't see an unhappy horse. I see a horse presented with challenges and trying to overcome them. If Armas was so badly compromised, surely he would be getting worse and worse and resisting more? He's working pretty hard, if he is lame then why isn't he more lame? Can someone try and explain to me how this is damaging to Armas - because unless he's buted to the eyeballs, I just don't see it.