Trying to explain myself a little

And a *clap* from me too M_G.

I think Myjack has immense tolerance. I also think she has been dealt with in an unkind manner by some members on HHO. I have not seen her lose her temper and I haven't seen her make nasty personal remarks to any posters .... but many have said pretty horrid things to her.

She's never told us what to think, she has simply encouraged us to think.

I understand why she cannot say any of the details on here and her strength of character is quite incredible, in my opinion.
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i feel that MJ, along with a couple of others who ave joined IN with her, rather than AGAINST her points of view, have actually learnt that the horse/pony markes/sales thing isn't all a bed of roses....

THAT is what i admire her for...and support her for.

sh1t happens, not all horses/ponies are well fed/overfed..well rugged/over rugged..etc etc.....

food for thought indeed...
 
I admit that at first I was a member of the "hang MJ and flog her brigade". MJ has never resorted to personal attacks and she has really opened my eyes, I keep an open mind and commend her on her tolerance and composure.....I know that I wouldn't have been able to be so rational
 
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For pete sake get a life M.J instead of going through what people have posted in the past.

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I have a life - and a very happy one indeed. I don't need to go through what people have posted in the past - I jave a very good memory and have an eye to see people/things for what they really are.

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since when is a married mother ( 31 years old with a child at Uni as well ) with children upp online on odd hours ???? FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE

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31 with a child at uni?........Gee, I must have started having babies real young.
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Who have you NOT attacked ? The list is long

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....and to name just a few?

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And yes unlike you i have seen the horses and OF course i got say Guilty or Not Guilty he has not been through the trial yet and by writing a verdict that we think is suitable can damage his trial ,good try
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You're not very clever are you PW? - YOU have slandered JG and his father saying things about them being done for cruelty etc - which is total crap anyway. But those accusations alone could damage a trial (in his favour). ....and now you are trying to accuse me of trying to do such a thing. Good try PW, but not good enough.
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Here you see people M.J wants our tongues to slip..maybe XXXXXXXXXX WAS right you did post this thread hoping that it could be used for J.G's defence ??

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You are having a complete joke right?? There has been enough crap posted on this forom about JG - I'm sure my lil ol thread would have no effect what so ever. The purpose for this thread was to try and explain myself. It wasn't meant for a debate but it seems some people only want debate.
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And again it shows how the "tone" of M.J changes....

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You have said I have attacked people - that my tone has chaged etc......Show me where?


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and this will be the last thing that i will ever post about J.G/M.J unlike M.J i dont have to explain my views....

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No I wouldn't try to explain your views either - you don't have a very good memory, and to be a good liar you have to have one of those.


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people knows who i support and what i stand for
I am actually glad that i undid the Ignore button

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Oh PW, I personally don't believe you ever had me on ignore.
 
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Oh Mother_Hen FINALLY someone is speaking my language....
BUT I still dont beleive that MJ is even from this country she/he/it loves quoting and attack people that actually comes up with some facts,or shot down is a better word...I have known about the G family for YEARS and a leopard never changes its spots,he may or may not be guilty in THIS case only time will tell

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MJ has never gotten personal or attacked people on here...Unlike some

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I have asked PW to show me where I have attacked people but he has failed to do so.
 
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I dont think MJ has personally attacked anyone on this thread.
I think she is trying to be very clever and a little manipulative and some are able to see through that.

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TBH, comments like this tend to confuse me. May I ask how you believe I have been clever and a little manipulative?


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She will answer if it suits her but chooses to ignore any question that may ask her to question he belief.

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As far as I can remember you have asked me one question to which I told you would come out during the trial.


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I do then think she is on some sort of mission because she will not discuss truly balanced.

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She is beginning to lose her patience a little.

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I'm not sure what I have said to have you come to this conclusion.
 
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If I do manage to get there I'll wear a sandwich board with 'MYJACK' splashed all over it so you peeps will know who I am....

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Ha! Ha! I spot a business opportunity.

*heads out to buy tomatoes, preferably mouldy ones to sell to paddywhack outside the courtroom*

*Returns with lorry load*

My Jack, a question for you. Were you aware it is RSPCA week? Thought you would like to make a donation?....I have some tomatoes for sale....
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LOL......PW would probably pass on the tomatoes and pick up stones instead.

No I wasn't aware it was RSPCA week - don't fret, I'll write a big fat cheque first thing - one that will bounce all the way back to me........
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I dont mind being disagreed with at all.

I think MJ's knows the argument is lost if she gets too annoyed.
I also think that it does not matter what job you do-as you are implying-to be smart. I am sure you know that though.

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I am my own person and if I did get annoyed then so be it - I doubt very much this would effect the ability of people's thoughts in regards to what has been reported etc.

Their logical thinking don't depend upon my patience.
 
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For pete sake get a life M.J instead of going through what people have posted in the past.since when is a married mother ( 31 years old with a child at Uni as well ) with children upp online on odd hours ???? FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE


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Ummm.....I'm married, very happily actually, with an 18 month old daughter....I'm up and about online at very odd hours, such as now, and I can assure you that I'm indeed very real....

I really don't think a persons credibility can be determined by what hours they keep.

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Are you asking if I will be around after JG has been found guilty/not guilty?

If so, you can bet your life on it - I'll be right here.
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And a *clap* from me too M_G.

I think Myjack has immense tolerance. I also think she has been dealt with in an unkind manner by some members on HHO. I have not seen her lose her temper and I haven't seen her make nasty personal remarks to any posters .... but many have said pretty horrid things to her.

She's never told us what to think, she has simply encouraged us to think.

I understand why she cannot say any of the details on here and her strength of character is quite incredible, in my opinion.
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but will we see her if a verdict does not go her way??? or does it matter. the verdict is verdict but if its guilt will we see her again? will also so until someone else spoke up that the majority agreed he was guilty... but who was the 1st to speak up and who was the person to follow cus someone spoke up? not you Tia its just a response
 
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For pete sake get a life M.J instead of going through what people have posted in the past.since when is a married mother ( 31 years old with a child at Uni as well ) with children upp online on odd hours ???? FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE


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Ummm.....I'm married, very happily actually, with an 18 month old daughter....I'm up and about online at very odd hours, such as now, and I can assure you that I'm indeed very real....

I really don't think a persons credibility can be determined by what hours they keep.

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Well said Penny. However, I think PW knows for sure that I live in this country. I think he's just trying to pull some kind of stunt - he wants people to thinK I'm a fake because he himself KNOWS that I know facts.

don't you PW??
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it is your cockynerss that makes me question YOU
will you disapear after a gulity verdict or stick around if found not guilty...and in the long run..what do you have to offer for the forum from the verdict???
 
See....it's telling me at the top that you made your last post

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Is it not saying that for you?

Sorry to go on but it's bugging me!
 
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will you disapear after a gulity verdict or stick around if found not guilty...

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I'm going no where no matter what.


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and in the long run..what do you have to offer for the forum from the verdict???

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What do you mean?
 
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See....it's telling me at the top that you made your last post

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Is it not saying that for you?

Sorry to go on but it's bugging me!

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It's telling me the same as it's telling you.....
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It's way past my bedtime anyway - I'll be getting a telling off from PW if I don't hurry and get to bed.
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I know facts also may I add

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Okay.

Maybe people should try and get to the trial then so they too can have facts.
 
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I think that if JG is found guilty it won't make the slightest bit of difference. I don't think that many members will hold up their hands and say "well, I got that wrong" or whatever....

It'll be all about a terrible "miscarriage of justice" and questioning the legal system.

As for the family, even if they're found guilty they're reputations, and possibly their lives, have been ruined. And for what? Speculation and narrow mindedness (if that isn't a word, it is now)...people deciding they 'know the truth'...

It amazes me how many have posted saying that they know/live near Spindles Farm...they've seen the horses, seen them being abused or whatever....

If that was the case then why weren't they doing anything about it BEFORE?

I know no facts at all, I've read odd bits in the newspapers, and I've read on here bits and bobs. I have no reason to trust any of the posters on here any more than I have the Sun newspaper....I've refrained from commenting on these threads as I felt I wasn't 'clued up' on the case enough....however the majority of posts are pure speculation.

Have any of you read some of the truly distressing cases in which the RSPCA have removed beloved family pets etc for no reason? The cat they ordered to be PTS as it was 'severe;y ill and suffering' which turned out to have fleas? The old veteran horse who was under the care of the vet, owned practically all of her life by the same couple who doted on her? Months it took them to get their beloved mare back.....

The RSPCA can be wrong, where are the pictures of the so-called emaciated horses retrieved from the farm? If there were horses in such a state then those pictures would have been either released or 'accidentally leaked'.....

The RSPCA love a good sob story....any distressing pictures/coverage ensure the public are roped into donating even more money.

Maybe they should actually try spending a little of their money on actually helping a genuinely needy animal rather than victimising the weak, blowing God knows how much on court cases that don't stick and didn't have a hope in Hells chance to begin with (previous cases, not this one, check up online) and making poxy adverts when they could achieve a lot more impact and really hit home by simply taking a camera around a rescue kennels and filming the heartbreaking sights there. The old dogs noone wants. The ones who have been there so long that they don't even bother getting up when someone approaches....the look of desperation, the sadness, rejection and the constant whines, barks and cries of the residents.

Just my views.
 
<font color="blue"> and who was the person to follow cus someone spoke up? </font>

I don't think myjack has 'swayed' anyone for or against an Is he/Isn't he standpoint.

I'm not sure what to think, now mj has irritated the pants off me with her patient and unheated but consistent replies to various points and comments.

So, I am an unashamed fence-sitter. I am listening to and digesting sensible replies by such as Tia and Blueberry who have never simply gone with the flow and Mother_Hen who also has the courage of their convictions. I certainly don't know enough to make my mind up and certainly don't trust the media to make it up for me!

Were I to meet the fellow in question (JG) I would not be hurling insults and abuse at him on the basis of the news reports either. I'd be all ears for his side of the story. And so I await the official verdict as opposed to trial by gossip and journalists.
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its just very easy to say you know the facts...so do i

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True - it is very easy indeed. However, I have shown no one any physical facts to have them believe anything.

I don't expect people to just sit back and believe me when I say that I have facts. - they don't know me so to expect them just sit back and believe me, I believe, would be very dumb of me for one thing, and for 2, would also be insulting their intelligence. The people here are full grown adults not children who believe anything people tell them.

I have asked them to simply THINK.
 
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its just very easy to say you know the facts...so do i

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True - it is very easy indeed. However, I have shown no one any physical facts to have them believe anything. <font color="green"> indeed you haven't </font>

I don't expect people to just sit back and believe me when I say that I have facts. - they don't know me so to expect them just sit back and believe me, I believe, would be very dumb of me for one thing, and for 2, would also be insulting their intelligence. The people here are full grown adults not children who believe anything people tell them.

I have asked them to simply THINK.

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<font color="green">and boy, have they!!!! you just have to read the responses to your posts over the last 14 days, as opposed to the totally negative responses in the first week when this story blew </font>
 
Yes Penny, I too have read about those cases concerning the rspca. Very sad indeed.
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They spend 44% of their annual income on prosecutions. But it seems that many posters would rather not know about these things
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The SHG have published this information.
 
Oi - doing the blue thing with the text is mine!
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But how right you are. I did wonder if things might kick off again with it being Friday but Admin's little knuckle-rapping session has cooled everyone down and the forum is quite a pleasant place to be again. Some proper civilised talk going on, Pete!
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Oi - doing the blue thing with the text is mine!
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But how right you are. I did wonder if things might kick off again with it being Friday but Admin's little knuckle-rapping session has cooled everyone down and the forum is quite a pleasant place to be again. Some proper civilised talk going on, Pete!
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i quite like blue...sorry.............
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