Update on Grump thread

[Sandstone1]

Ok so the other day I posted about a incident with a person with a pack of nasty little dogs. Had words with the owner. It has since become apparent that the person has done a considerable amount of damage to my car. It was on the passenger side of my car which is why I did not see it until later. My car was undamaged before my walk and the only person who was anywhere near my car was the dog owner. This has been reported to the police. I have found out the name of this woman and the police know this..... So far police not helpful... I now have a badly damaged car with several hundred pounds worth of damage.
I am very angry about this. The woman must be mentally unstable as in spite of what some on here posted I said a few words about controlling her dogs who were being vile by the way and she thought it fair game to badly damage a car. This person was easily in her 50s. It turns out shes a horsey person. I know her name her car reg and where she lives. This is classed as anti social behaviour. I can not afford to repair this damage. Would I be able to take this to small claims court if the police dont take it further? Anyone else had this sort of thing?
Just to add I do know 100% that it was this woman. Car was fine before and damaged after walk. Had been no where else and no one else near it. I am very tempted to name and shame her on facebook. Even if I was in the wrong for telling her to control her dogs this is no excuse to do criminal damage .

 

[Parrotperson]

How do you prove it?

There could’ve been other people about you didn’t see.

The police are probably of the same opinion. You didn’t see it you’re just making assumptions.

Sorry but I don’t think you have a case.

 

[Tiddlypom]

What hard evidence do you have that it was this woman who damaged your car? If you have none, you are unlikely to get anywhere getting restoration.

I'm sorry to hear about your car, but unless you have evidence of what happened you haven't got a case.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I'm sorry but for the reasons mentioned above, I don't think you would have a case. This is why you have insurance.

 

[Sandstone1]

I know 100% it was her. Due to the layout of where I was walking and where cars where parked. Its a long track with one entrance if anyone else was there they would have passed me.

 

[SashaBabe]

Sorry, but unless you are able to prove she did the damage, you don't have a case.

 

[Sandstone1]

Yes, I have insurance but also a excess and why should I have to pay it just because a loopy woman can not control her temper.

 

[irishdraft]

As others have said you cannot actually prove this woman caused the damage even if your certain it was her. Best you don't name & shame on fb however tempting that is because who knows what will kick off .

 

[Sandstone1]

I know it was her and she knows it was her. At the moment I am having to stop myself from going and knocking on her door and confronting her. She does not know I know who she is but I know exactly. As shes horsey I really hope shes reading this!
Such a childish , petty and childish thing to do.

 

[PurBee]

We had our car damaged by disgruntled neighbours who had a long history of conflict with others in the household i was living with. Police basically said, without concrete evidence, i.e video or photo of them doing it, they couldnt do anything further. We blanked the offenders and were going to sort it ourselves, but before we could OH wrote the car-off by sliding off the road due to oil spill at a roundabout, which damaged the chassis, causing a complete replacement value claim!

I dont suppose there’s cctv in or near that car park you were parked? Any houses nearby that have cctv outside their homes with a view of the car park?

Her retaliatory actions to your comment are pressing your buttons to retaliate. Tempting as SM outing may be, you leave yourself wide-open for more retaliation, as she’s proven she’s capable. That path can end up pretty ugly, way beyond the original grievance. But i completely understand youre shocked and angry she went as far as damaging your car, over a comment.

 

[Sandstone1]

There is a possibility of cctv. I am looking it to it. A nasty woman with nasty snappy little dogs.

 

[ycbm]

Well done for speaking up, you might just have helped other people not be caused an issue by her dogs. I'm sorry it's caused you issues, but I agree with the others that you don't have the required level of proof to sue her for the damage to your car.
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[Sandstone1]

Just shows what a nasty petty woman she is. What's the saying..... revenge is a dish best served cold..

 

[Melody Grey]

I guess in the process of making your insurance claim you could provide them with the details you have, though without CCTV and a crime number from the police I don’t think they could act on it.

 

[Sandstone1]

I am waiting to get a crime number from the police

 

[Clodagh]

That’s awful. What a bloody awful human being.
Calm down and go and see her, if you can avoid being sued for assault. I’d be spitting mad.

 

[Sandstone1]

I am absolutely furious to be honest. A spoilt bratt of a woman. Obviously the truth hurts.

 

[Sandstone1]

I really hope she's on here and reads this. I think she thought she had got away with it but unfortunately for her I know who she is. I would have thought that someone of her age would know better.

 

[Cortez]

I really hope she's on here and reads this. I think she thought she had got away with it but unfortunately for her I know who she is. I would have thought that someone of her age would know better.

Yes, but you cannot PROVE it was her in a court of law, unless you have evidence.

 

[Red-1]

You say you didn't notice until later? How much later and where was your car? Was it driven between getting back to it and noticing? Presumably so, as you say you didn't notice until later.

Sorry, you have no proof it was this woman.

I would caution against letting the anger involved make you do something that the Police would act upon, such as harassment. Harassment only takes a course of conduct, as in 2 instances of you being nasty to her. I would not go knocking on her door.

If the CCTV hunt is successful, then that is different.

 

[Sandstone1]

Yes, but you cannot PROVE it was her in a court of law, unless you have evidence.

You say you didn't notice until later? How much later and where was your car? Was it driven between getting back to it and noticing? Presumably so, as you say you didn't notice until later.

Sorry, you have no proof it was this woman.

I would caution against letting the anger involved make you do something that the Police would act upon, such as harassment. Harassment only takes a course of conduct, as in 2 instances of you being nasty to her. I would not go knocking on her door.

If the CCTV hunt is successful, then that is different

The only reason I didnt notice was because the damage is on the passenger side. Car did not go anywhere else except home. It was not damaged before I went out and its completely and clearly obvious it was this stupid woman. She was parked next to me and no one else was there. Of course it was her. I would love to go and knock on her door but I am not stupid. The police have got back to me with a crime number and I have been able to give them some more info which I am not going in to here. She has actually broken the dangerous dogs act as well as her dogs caused me " fear and apprehension " I am not going to do anything stupid. Karma will get her.

 

[Sandstone1]

This forum really does make you laugh. I am a victim of a nasty crime here. Anti social behaviour and vandalism which is supposed to be taken seriously not to mention she was not in control of a pack of nasty vile little dogs. You would think it was me that committed a crime according to some on here!

 

[Goldenstar]

You have no evidence that she damaged your car .
It may seem obvious to you but that’s not enough in law a lower standard of proof is required in a civil case but even the. You describe the incident and say then she damaged my car .She describes the incident and says now she trying to pin the this damage to her car on me and I saw that car with the damage earlier .
Theres no evidence so it’s very likely to go against you in a civil action .
This sort of thing is why so many of use where in the think it not say it camp on your first thread .

You need to stay out of her way, she’s unstable and dangerous .

 

[Sandstone1]

Ok, so I parked my car with no damage next to this womans car. No one else around. Went for a walk and passed nutty woman. made one comment about her nasty, aggy, pack of dogs. continued walk, passed no one got back in car went straight home parked on drive. Short time later damage found. Of course it was her. As for no proof thats being looked into. I agree shes unstable and dangerous and I am likely to meet her again on local footpaths. Thats another reason Police are taking it seriously. Only reason it was not noticed straight away was I did not go to passenger side.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

It really isnt that people on here don't agree with you that this woman is most likely responsible for the damage to your car but that everyone is advising caution because there is no proof that it was her and not some random person who came along g while you were walking your dogs. I'm guessing that you couldn't see your car while you were walking.

 

[Sandstone1]

It really isnt that people on here don't agree with you that this woman is most likely responsible for the damage to your car but that everyone is advising caution because there is no proof that it was her and not some random person who came along g while you were walking your dogs. I'm guessing that you couldn't see your car while you were walking.

No maybe it was a pack of angry werewolves that did it!
One reason for putting it on here is that shes a horsey person so may be on here. Its a nasty, vindictive thing to do and as someone else has said shows shes unstable. Maybe I was grumpy to mention her nasty,snappy, rude, vile pack of ankle bitters but that does not make it right to commit vandalism. It would not occur to me to do something so nasty and petty.
Just goes to show how nasty some horsey people are. The police are getting back to me next week so time will tell.

 

[Goldenstar]

AS PAS says it does not matter what you know or what you think it’s about what you can prove .

It is not fair and it is not right but it is how it is .
In a village there’s a great deal you could do via friends to make her life uncomfortable but it’s not worth it she is a crazy and you need to stay away from her in every way .
Its not worth the risk .

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

No maybe it was a pack of angry werewolves that did it!
One reason for putting it on here is that shes a horsey person so may be on here. Its a nasty, vindictive thing to do and as someone else has said shows shes unstable. Maybe I was grumpy to mention her nasty,snappy, rude, vile pack of ankle bitters but that does not make it right to commit vandalism. It would not occur to me to do something so nasty and petty.
Just goes to show how nasty some horsey people are. The police are getting back to me next week so time will tell.

Not just horsey people! Some people are nasty!

 

[Goldenstar]

Nasty people have horses it’s a shock but it happens

 

[Landcruiser]

This forum really does make you laugh. I am a victim of a nasty crime here. Anti social behaviour and vandalism which is supposed to be taken seriously not to mention she was not in control of a pack of nasty vile little dogs. You would think it was me that committed a crime according to some on here!

Until this point I was sympathetic. 99% yes, of course it was this woman. But like every single other person has said, without actual proof no court in the land will do a thing, and it's not worth police time for that reason. You say she did, she says she didn't. Just because you want people to agree with you, and they are not, doesn't mean they think YOU have done something wrong. Don't lash out at forum members who have taken the trouble to try to help. I'm out.