Update on Grump thread

[Sandstone1]

Until this point I was sympathetic. 99% yes, of course it was this woman. But like every single other person has said, without actual proof no court in the land will do a thing, and it's not worth police time for that reason. You say she did, she says she didn't. Just because you want people to agree with you, and they are not, doesn't mean they think YOU have done something wrong. Don't lash out at forum members who have taken the trouble to try to help. I'm out.

Thank you so much.

 

[SheriffTruman]

Thank you so much.

Really Sandstone1, I daresay everybody here believes you saying that the culprit was this woman. It's terrible what she did to your car. What people are saying is the problem is that you cannot prove it. So how are you going to convince a small claims court?

Beginning to think that these 50+, neat-looking lady's are the worst vandalists. I had one complaining about my (perfectly legally) parked scooter, as it spoiled her view of the plant containers she put (illegally) on the sidewalk. She then threatened to damage it in my abscence. I couldn't believe my ears (but admittedly didn't dare to park it there again afterwards. Bloody granny totally intimidated me .)

 

[Ratface]

Don't mess with us grannies!

 

[Cortez]

Thank you so much.

Sympathy levels diminishing rapidly.......

 

[Tardebigge]

How did she know it was your car?
I found my car damaged on the passenger side a few years ago. I blamed it on an old woman who had parked very close to me on the day I found it, but when I thought about it, I couldn't say, hand on heart, when I had last looked at that side of the car - it's out of view of the house and I just approach from the driver's side and get in. The damage (£450 worth) could have been there for some time. I am the only person who uses the car, and that's not every day. I know its infuriating, but there's not a lot you can do.

 

[Sandstone1]

How did she know it was your car?
I found my car damaged on the passenger side a few years ago. I blamed it on an old woman who had parked very close to me on the day I found it, but when I thought about it, I couldn't say, hand on heart, when I had last looked at that side of the car - it's out of view of the house and I just approach from the driver's side and get in. The damage (£450 worth) could have been there for some time. I am the only person who uses the car, and that's not every day. I know its infuriating, but there's not a lot you can do.

Only 2 cars there mine and hers. Damage was 100% done while it was parked next to hers. It was not there when I left home. It was there after I returned home so unless someone did it on driveway while I was in the house...... It was her. She risked it being my car as I could have been on foot so she could well have damaged someone elses car in her temper. What she does not realise is that I know who she is.

 

[Sandstone1]

Sympathy levels diminishing rapidly.......

Oh dear, never mind. I will survive I think.

 

[Goldenstar]

Please be circumspect, this is a forum read by many people with horses .

 

[Sandstone1]

Please be circumspect, this is a forum read by many people with horses .

I know that, I have them myself..... I hope she has read this.

 

[Gloi]

This is a good example of why it isn't a good idea to make snide comments about strangers I'll mannered dogs.

 

[DabDab]

The thing is that if someone accidentally damaged a car just after they arrived in a car park they would likely get straight back in their car and take off...

 

[Sandstone1]

This is a good example of why it isn't a good idea to make snide comments about strangers I'll mannered dogs.

Or a good reason to make sure your small dogs have manners. If I walked two gsds who behaved like that I would be in trouble and rightly so. Half a dozen snappy little sods and its ok? Maybe I should not have said anything but damaged her car instead? Or maybe I should just have booted them?

 

[Sandstone1]

The thing is that if someone accidentally damaged a car just after they arrived in a car park they would likely get straight back in their car and take off...

Due to where this happened that would be most unlikely. Its not damage caused by her car hitting mine its deliberate damage caused by her keying the side of mine. This was no accident. 4 very long very deep scratches along two doors No way was it a accident Im afraid.

 

[bonny]

Or a good reason to make sure your small dogs have manners. If I walked two gsds who behaved like that I would be in trouble and rightly so. Half a dozen snappy little sods and its ok? Maybe I should not have said anything but damaged her car instead? Or maybe I should just have booted them?

You could have just walked past muttering under your breath and saved all this hassle?

 

[Sandstone1]

You could have just walked past muttering under your breath and saved all this hassle?

No. She should control her dogs and not let them bother other people. Shes clearly a nutter and I am not going round muttering to myself. Shes in the wrong. This is the trouble with the world today. People too scared to stand up and speak up. Had my dogs misbehaved and someone commented to me my reaction would not be to go and do damage to their car. She clearly has issues but thats not my fault. Nothing more to be said here now. Its with the police and thats that for now.

 

[Bellaboo18]

Due to where this happened that would be most unlikely. Its not damage caused by her car hitting mine its deliberate damage caused by her keying the side of mine. This was no accident. 4 very long very deep scratches along two doors No way was it a accident Im afraid.

Unlikely or impossible?

 

[Sandstone1]

Impossible as the damaged side was on inside no one could park on that side. Its also clearly been done with a key. As I said 4 deep long seperate scratches. Im not going to continue justifying myself. I know she did it. I know who she is and its with the police with info Im not putting here.

 

[windswoo]

You won't like what I'm going to say, but.
You're starting to sound almost as unhinged as you are accusing her of being.
Yes you have a right to be p**sed, and I be incandescent with rage if it was me in this situation, but if you are not careful it will be you getting into trouble with the police for intimidating this woman and then she really has won.
If you can get any proof that she did it then great, if not as others have said there isn't a lot you can do about it
You'll just have to learn from the experience and pick your battles. Don't antagonise her. Is it worth getting yourself a criminal record over her?
Hopefully Karma will bite her up the ass at some stage (if she has done the damage) and maybe you'll get to see it.

 

[Upthecreek]

Sandstone1 your anger and frustration is understandable, but you will not be able to prove this woman did the damage to your car unless there was a witness, it was caught on CCTV or she admits to doing it if the police speak to her.

You have no evidence or proof. Can you prove that your car was not damaged before you left it in the car park?

A few years ago I returned to my brand new car in a supermarket car park to find it dented & scratched all down one side from where a shopping trolley hit it & scraped it because someone was too lazy to take their trolley back to the trolley park. The repairs were nearly £900 and I had to claim on my car insurance. It’s not fair, but life is like that sometimes I’m afraid.

I think it’s quite nasty of you to describe her as mentally unstable, loopy and a nutter. That’s pretty offensive to anyone with mental health issues.

 

[Bellaboo18]

Impossible as the damaged side was on inside no one could park on that side. Its also clearly been done with a key. As I said 4 deep long seperate scratches. Im not going to continue justifying myself. I know she did it. I know who she is and its with the police with info Im not putting here.

tbf I hadn't read your original thread so just had a quick skim read and I must admit I don't think what you said was terrible. I don't blame you for saying it and hopefully she'll have a rethink of how many dogs she walks at once.

 

[Sandstone1]

Sandstone1 your anger and frustration is understandable, but you will not be able to prove this woman did the damage to your car unless there was a witness, it was caught on CCTV or she admits to doing it if the police speak to her.

You have no evidence or proof. Can you prove that your car was not damaged before you left it in the car park?

A few years ago I returned to my brand new car in a supermarket car park to find it dented & scratched all down one side from where a shopping trolley hit it & scraped it because someone was too lazy to take their trolley back to the trolley park. The repairs were nearly £900 and I had to claim on my car insurance. It’s not fair, but life is like that sometimes I’m afraid.

I think it’s quite nasty of you to describe her as mentally unstable, loopy and a nutter. That’s pretty offensive to anyone with mental health issues.

Its pretty nasty of her to have damaged my car and I am sorry but she clearly is all of the above. I know all about mental health issues and its no excuse to damage someones property. Yes I can prove it was undamaged before I left home. I do actually have some proof which I am obviously not going to put on here. Why do I feel like I am in the dock for this..... Really no more to say here.

 

[Sandstone1]

You won't like what I'm going to say, but.
You're starting to sound almost as unhinged as you are accusing her of being.
Yes you have a right to be p**sed, and I be incandescent with rage if it was me in this situation, but if you are not careful it will be you getting into trouble with the police for intimidating this woman and then she really has won.
If you can get any proof that she did it then great, if not as others have said there isn't a lot you can do about it
You'll just have to learn from the experience and pick your battles. Don't antagonise her. Is it worth getting yourself a criminal record over her?
Hopefully Karma will bite her up the ass at some stage (if she has done the damage) and maybe you'll get to see it.

Oh I am unhinged! Be careful you are not allowed to say things like that you know

 

[Bellaboo18]

Ah struggling with the forum...
Further, It is your responsibility to control your dogs whatever others are doing on leads but I agree some people think any behaviour is acceptable with smaller dogs. It isn't.

I also hate passive aggressiveness so would have said something like you did or nothing at all. I think you did the right thing.

I'd now try and be the bigger person, *if* she did damage your car she's a horrible person that I'd avoid and carry on with my life. Horrible people aren't happy people. Don't let the anger ruin another minute, get your car sorted as soon as you can. If you can provide proof give it to the police.

I don't think anyone is against you but your anger is showing and you do appear to be lashing out.

Sorry this happened to you.

 

[Upthecreek]

I know all about mental health issues and it’s no excuse to damage someones property.

Of course it isn’t, which is exactly why you were wrong to say she must be mentally unstable, loopy and a nutter.

 

[Sandstone1]

Of course it isn’t, which is exactly why you were wrong to say she must be mentally unstable, loopy and a nutter.

Ok clearly I am wrong its entirely my fault and causing £100s of damage is a perfectly normal response to someone telling you to control your little bratty dogs. I should not have had the audacity to think I should be able to walk my dogs in peace without a pack of noisy nasty little sods trying to pull their owner over to get to mine. I should have fully expected a 50 year old women to have keyed my car and out of temper and spite. Of course its a perfectly normal response in a 100% stable and normal person really I should go round and take her a bunch of flowers to say sorry!

 

[Upthecreek]

Ok clearly I am wrong its entirely my fault and causing £100s of damage is a perfectly normal response to someone telling you to control your little bratty dogs. I should not have had the audacity to think I should be able to walk my dogs in peace without a pack of noisy nasty little sods trying to pull their owner over to get to mine. I should have fully expected a 50 year old women to have keyed my car and out of temper and spite. Of course its a perfectly normal response in a 100% stable and normal person really I should go round and take her a bunch of flowers to say sorry!

You are coming across as completely unreasonable and quite unpleasant. I hope you don’t speak to people face to face like you have on this thread because you should seriously consider how you interact with people if you do. Nobody, not a single person has said that what happened to your car isn’t wrong. However if you shouted at her “control your little bratty dogs” I can see why she might have taken offence. I’m not saying that it makes it right to damage your car, but you’re not showing yourself in a good light here either. People sometimes do bad things in the heat of the moment when they are angry. It’s wrong, but doesn’t necessarily mean they’re mentally unstable or a loony or a nutter.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

I would just say to her the next time she makes a choice to damage your property then there will be consequences of her choices. Get a dash cam that covers front and back and is usable when the car isn’t running motion activated seems to be the favourite and if she ever does it again you have proof of criminal damage there for consequences for her choices. I would have opened my mouth as well. People just breeze along In life doing what they want to others knowing that the vast majority of the time no one will call them on their bullcr@p. After I got deliberately struck by a car I decided that no longer would I be letting people treat me like I don’t matter and people will get called on their nonsense to me now.

You will just have to chalk it up to her being a complete @r$eh0le if she has done it and get it fixed. I had someone scrape a shopping cart right along my car, paid to get it fixed then the week after someone scraped their toe at along the back. Public car park at Asda so no comeback, I was spitting feathers but again that repair came out of my pocket once again. You just have to swallow it and move on.

 

[Bellaboo18]

You are coming across as completely unreasonable and quite unpleasant. I hope you don’t speak to people face to face like you have on this thread because you should seriously consider how you interact with people if you do. Nobody, not a single person has said that what happened to your car isn’t wrong. However if you shouted at her “control your little bratty dogs” I can see why she might have taken offence. I’m not saying that it makes it right to damage your car, but you’re not showing yourself in a good light here either. People sometimes do bad things in the heat of the moment when they are angry. It’s wrong, but doesn’t necessarily mean they’re mentally unstable or a loony or a nutter.

Tbf OP said 'a bit too many if they are going to behave like that' which I just don't think is that terrible.

 

[skinnydipper]

People sometimes do bad things in the heat of the moment when they are angry. It’s wrong, but doesn’t necessarily mean they’re mentally unstable or a loony or a nutter.

What is the correct terminology for someone who can't control their own actions?

 

[Parrotperson]

Recalcitrant.