Very sad advert

It is not going to end and the more money going in the longer it can go on.
http://www.dragondriving.co.uk/horseforsale-35196.html

http://www.dragondriving.co.uk/horseforsale-35594.html

http://www.dragondriving.co.uk/horseforsale-33827.html

There's more too. I don't think buyers are as responsible as the people that have done this but there is NO escaping from the fact that a buyer passes money which can go straight to getting another horse. I could not personally wash my hands of handing money to people to do this and when a person buys that's exactly what they do.
 
RuthM said:
It is not going to end and the more money going in the longer it can go on.
http://www.dragondriving.co.uk/horseforsale-35196.html

http://www.dragondriving.co.uk/horseforsale-35594.html

http://www.dragondriving.co.uk/horseforsale-33827.html

There's more too. I don't think buyers are as responsible as the people that have done this but there is NO escaping from the fact that a buyer passes money which can go straight to getting another horse. I could not personally wash my hands of handing money to people to do this and when a person buys that's exactly what they do.
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I really don't see the issue with these horses except perhaps the dark bay who does look poor .
The mule looks fine a little dishevelled but nothing that a bit of TLC would not sort.
I would rather buy two year olds looking like the two coloured horses than a fat two year old show horse or a fat blob of a cob two hundred kilos too fat .
 
Poor mite looks bluddy awful - I doubt she is 6 months old - more like 4 at a push, and I dont agree with her being well wormed, or properly fed. I hope someone nice has her - if I had the space I'd take her on myself, make a nice driving pony.
 
I would rather buy two year olds looking like the two coloured horses than a fat two year old show horse or a fat blob of a cob two hundred kilos too fat .
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In fairness you might have a point re them. I still think the others look pi** poor. My point is that a sad advert isn't hard to find but giving money to the folk selling is not going do anything towards reducing ill bred stock sold on for a few bucks.
 
Fools Motto said:
The thing that strikes me more, is that filly doesn't look 6 months. She looks like a very poor yearling. I can't put my finger on it, but she doesn't look 'foaly' at all!!
Just hope that someone nice and kind can care for this poor soul.
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Totally agree defo not a 6 month foal, more like a hungry yearling bless her poor baby.
 
victoria1980x said:
shes showing as online I'm hoping she will come on to update but she probably can't face another character assassination :(
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An observation of level of experience and words of advice can hardly be described as a 'character assassination'.:confused: I don't see any nasty comments about her personality or character anywhere?
 
I got the impression that Natalie had the bit well and truly between her teeth and wouldn't be remotely bothered by the criticism!

There are actually a lot of nice horses and ponies on that site - even on the same pages as some of the links on this thread. S'teamed can't see a bargain when its right in front of her perhaps?
 
Moomin1 said:
There's being 'novice' and then there's not being able to identify when you are riding a lame horse. The latter is worrying for any horse owner. Even more worrying that she was told what it could well be and yet still questioned whether it warranted a vet.
<snipped for brevity so I don't take over the page again :)>
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Don't get me wrong... I understand what you're saying - but sometimes a realisation of being somewhat wide of the mark can be a kick up the backside to get a learning head on... I just don't want to presume that the lass can't or wouldn't up her game to deal with this little thing... Particularly when the filly's current circumstances aren't sensational...

martlin said:
Yes, the 20 year old could live another 15 years or so, but it already had the education, is not going anywhere I presume and doesn't require bringing on. And there is a finite amount of time to the commitment.
With the youngster, it a very rocky road indeed, it isn't easy, although certainly not rocket science. If you leave out the viability of a poorly bred, poorly put together, worm ridden scrap (oops, heartless again :o:D), it still leaves the girl with masses, absolute masses of work and money to spend, for what? It just spells out disaster to me, but maybe I'm a grumpy, cynical sod, that's all.
And BTW, buying that pony certainly is not rescuing.
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My filly was 16mths when she had to be pts courtesy of a torsion so I don't necessarily presume the time commitments... Yes, education is important but as you said, it's not rocket science and if a bit is outside your remit - you get someone else involved... I've got no intention of breaking a horse myself... People get their first baby at some point - arguably it's an unfamiliar road for anyone first time even if they've had yonks of owning horses or seeing other people's babies...

The bib... It shouldn't have - but it did make me chuckle rather loudly... :D

Moomin1 said:
It may not be a welfare case, but it may well be a welfare notice that is needed. I personally don't think it looks so horrendous at all - but it doesn't look great by any means. I think a visit from the authorities wouldn't go amiss to have a look over the stock.
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Agreed... It's poor but not about to keel over... Doesn't inspire me with confidence about the husbandry though...:)
 
I don't know who the hell some of you think you are! Saying I ride my lame old horse! What a *******ing evil thing to say?! I might be a novice but I'm not freakin cruel!! Some of you are just CRUEL! Get out of your own arses and get out more, bloody boring old farts! Doing a separate thread about the little filly for the people who actually care!
 
Natalieshort said:
I don't know who the hell some of you think you are! Saying I ride my lame old horse! What a *******ing evil thing to say?! I might be a novice but I'm not freakin cruel!! Some of you are just CRUEL! Get out of your own arses and get out more, bloody boring old farts! Doing a separate thread about the little filly for the people who actually care!
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Err, you posted on your own thread that every time you ride/rode your horse the other people at the yard would say that she doesn't lift her front leg properly and hops on it. That's lameness.

And I actually retract the comments I have made about you sounding to be a lovely person. You actually sound like a childish foul mouthed and short tempered person who can't take any constructive advice or criticism.
 
moosea said:
Impressed at your ability to diagnose lameness via forum posts... now that's what I call experienced ;)
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It's not hard given the fact her own post said her 'experienced' friends told her that it could be navicular.....Of course, those experienced friends in that case have got it wrong and the horse obviously hasn't displayed any lameness, despite it 'hopping' and not lifting it's foreleg properly when ridden. These of course would be the very same 'experienced' people helping her with the youngster. :rolleyes:
 
Moomin1 said:
It's not hard given the fact her own post said her 'experienced' friends told her that it could be navicular.....Of course, those experienced friends in that case have got it wrong and the horse obviously hasn't displayed any lameness, despite it 'hopping' and not lifting it's foreleg properly when ridden. These of course would be the very same 'experienced' people helping her with the youngster. :rolleyes:
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And what did you think when you saw the horse run up?
 
moosea said:
And what did you think when you saw the horse run up?
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Despite whether the horse may have been lame or not - she openly says she doesn't know what navicular is BECAUSE SHE IS A COMPLETE NOVICE. That is all I have commented on - she shouldn't be taking on a youngster 'rescue' when she hasn't got the experience to look after a horse at this point. Basic knowledge is lacking.
 
Moosea,

Moomin is going on the description that Natalieshort has posted asking for advice - if you read the post would you really come to the conclusion that the horse was not lame? Really, honestly, truly would you not think it?
And do you really think that a novive is the best person to take on a very poor baby with unkown issues? Honestly - do you realy think that is a good idea for horse or owner?
 
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