sherry90
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Horse is approx 630kg - does that just mean I need to do my test or is the car not capable?
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ROG
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Car GVW of 2250 is too high
With a GVW of 2000 you could have the trailer plated at 1500 leaving you 700 for the horse
sherry90
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If I did my test would I be ok though?
ROG
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Well ok without the need to down plate
ROG
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XMAS BUMP
Dru
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I have a Cheval single trailer which is 750kg unladen. Horse is approx 620kg. Currently tow with 4x4 car which has towing capacity of 2500kg; occasional use only and have had no issues. Eyeing up a dream car, 4x4 but with only 1800kg capacity. Is that safe?
ROG
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1400 max weight being towed by a vehicle with 1800 tow capacity = well ok
Using a B+E licence = yes?
Dru
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I'm old so can tow without a test.
ApolloStorm
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Treated myself at Xmas with a new broom broom- Skoda Octavia 4x4
1- B+E
2- unladen is 1383
3- GVW, google tells me 2096 but not sure?
4- towing capacity is 2000kg
5- it’s a 511, 2700
6-1000
1- B+E
2- unladen is 1383
3- GVW, google tells me 2096 but not sure?
4- towing capacity is 2000kg
5- it’s a 511, 2700
6-1000
ROG
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511 empty is 1000
Max load for trailer is 1000 due to the 2000 max towing capacity limit
ApolloStorm
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honestly got myself all worked up over kerb weights and such as it’s not a very heavy car? Towing the 511 and one horse would be fine?
ROG
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Trailer + horse likely to be about 1500 so easy within 2000 towing limit
Bruce17
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Can I check if my potential combination is safe please?
I have a Nissan X trail, spec here - https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/nissan/x-trail/16-dci-n-vision-5dr-7-seat/spec
And an ifor 505.
Ive always travelled a single horse as mine wouldn't load with partitions in, however she now does so its possible that I may want to take a friend out in future, but need to check if its safe to do so?
Driver has BE licence, so from that point of view I know we are okay, but taking two horses will be almost up to the car's max towing weight, is this actually safe to do?
I have a Nissan X trail, spec here - https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/nissan/x-trail/16-dci-n-vision-5dr-7-seat/spec
And an ifor 505.
Ive always travelled a single horse as mine wouldn't load with partitions in, however she now does so its possible that I may want to take a friend out in future, but need to check if its safe to do so?
Driver has BE licence, so from that point of view I know we are okay, but taking two horses will be almost up to the car's max towing weight, is this actually safe to do?
ROG
Well-Known Member
YES
If manufacturers max tow limit was unsafe then they would be getting sued in court a lot!
bluetrees
Member
Does anyone have a combination that keeps them under the 3500 as on a B licence and manages to pull a double trailer with only 1 horse (not pony) in it? Or is this impossible?
bluetrees
Member
Or does anyone have any suggestions of a car with a GVW of 2000 that I could pull a single ifor or cheval liberte (downplated to 1500)
thanks
ROG
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Skoda Octavia 4x4Or does anyone have any suggestions of a car with a GVW of 2000 that I could pull a single ifor or cheval liberte (downplated to 1500)
thanks
Skoda yeti
+ loads of others
What load weight do you need to put in the trailer????
bluetrees
Member
Hes 566.
bluetrees
Member
The yeti might be too new so over budget. Thinking a mondeo or another large estate. Got a citreon c5 in mind but its 2155 gvw
ROG
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Lets say 600 to go into trailer
Cheval liberte trailer is 750 empty
Trailer down plated to 1400 will be ok
That leaves 2100 GVW for the vehicle
bluetrees
Member
Yes so citron c5 55 g too heavy. I'll double check it on the actual car tmz and not on line specs. Thanks
bluetrees
Member
So my other option is a VW Passat estate. Log book says it can tow 1500. The plate in the door says the following numbers
2100kg
3600kg
1070kg
1080kg
If i get a single trailer downplated to 1400 will I be ok or a Bateson Derby downplated to 1400? Thanks
2100kg
3600kg
1070kg
1080kg
If i get a single trailer downplated to 1400 will I be ok or a Bateson Derby downplated to 1400? Thanks
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ROG
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2100 GVWSo my other option is a VW Passat estate. Log book says it can tow 1500. The plate in the door says the following numbers
2100kg
3600kg
1070kg
1080kg
If i get a single trailer downplated to 1400 will I be ok or a Bateson Derby downplated to 1400? Thanks
3600 GTW
3600-2100=1500 TOWING CAPACITY
BATESON DERBY is 675 empty so down plating it from 1700 to 1400 would leave a max trailer load of 725kg
Down plating a DERBY to 1300 would leave a max trailer load of 625kg and that would mean a max car GVW of 2200
bluetrees
Member
Ah, fantastic. I didnt realise you could pick the downplating amount (within reason!) Awesome, thank you.
conniegirl
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Check which single Cheval Liberte trailer you have as the 1003XXL is 200kg heavier than the 1003XL!Or does anyone have any suggestions of a car with a GVW of 2000 that I could pull a single ifor or cheval liberte (downplated to 1500)
thanks
We tow a Cheval Liberte 1003XL (550Kg unladen weight, 1400kg MAM) single trailer with a Skoda Yeti 4x4 comfortably within the B license limit
ROG
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I think with a Bateson trailer it costs about a tenner to down plate
You contact Bateson with trailer details
You remove current plate and send it to Bateson with money
Bateson send you new plate
You fit new plate
You could also mean a handy person with a metal drill and a pop rivet gun
bluetrees
Member
Unfortunatley the yetis are above my budget. And I don't actually have the trailer yet. I have a double wessex but I thinking of selling and getting a single so that I can stay under the B licence limits.
bluetrees
Member
I know a handy person with a metal drill and pop rivet gun, so that's all good. Now to find the trailer.
ROG
Well-Known Member
lightweight trailers command a higher price because they can be down plated to be used with a B licence so do not be surprised if you find doubles are cheaper than singles!!
To have a trailer down plated the manufacturer must still be trading