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I have a Cheval single trailer which is 750kg unladen. Horse is approx 620kg. Currently tow with 4x4 car which has towing capacity of 2500kg; occasional use only and have had no issues. Eyeing up a dream car, 4x4 but with only 1800kg capacity. Is that safe?
 
Dru said:
I have a Cheval single trailer which is 750kg unladen. Horse is approx 620kg. Currently tow with 4x4 car which has towing capacity of 2500kg; occasional use only and have had no issues. Eyeing up a dream car, 4x4 but with only 1800kg capacity. Is that safe?
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1400 max weight being towed by a vehicle with 1800 tow capacity = well ok
Using a B+E licence = yes?
 
Treated myself at Xmas with a new broom broom- Skoda Octavia 4x4
1- B+E
2- unladen is 1383
3- GVW, google tells me 2096 but not sure?
4- towing capacity is 2000kg
5- it’s a 511, 2700
6-1000
 
ApolloStorm said:
Treated myself at Xmas with a new broom broom- Skoda Octavia 4x4
1- B+E
2- unladen is 1383
3- GVW, google tells me 2096 but not sure?
4- towing capacity is 2000kg
5- it’s a 511, 2700
6-1000
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511 empty is 1000
Max load for trailer is 1000 due to the 2000 max towing capacity limit
 
Can I check if my potential combination is safe please?

I have a Nissan X trail, spec here - https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/nissan/x-trail/16-dci-n-vision-5dr-7-seat/spec

And an ifor 505.

Ive always travelled a single horse as mine wouldn't load with partitions in, however she now does so its possible that I may want to take a friend out in future, but need to check if its safe to do so?

Driver has BE licence, so from that point of view I know we are okay, but taking two horses will be almost up to the car's max towing weight, is this actually safe to do?
 
Bruce17 said:
Can I check if my potential combination is safe please?

I have a Nissan X trail, spec here - https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/nissan/x-trail/16-dci-n-vision-5dr-7-seat/spec

And an ifor 505.

Ive always travelled a single horse as mine wouldn't load with partitions in, however she now does so its possible that I may want to take a friend out in future, but need to check if its safe to do so?

Driver has BE licence, so from that point of view I know we are okay, but taking two horses will be almost up to the car's max towing weight, is this actually safe to do?
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YES
If manufacturers max tow limit was unsafe then they would be getting sued in court a lot!
 
Does anyone have a combination that keeps them under the 3500 as on a B licence and manages to pull a double trailer with only 1 horse (not pony) in it? Or is this impossible?
 
So my other option is a VW Passat estate. Log book says it can tow 1500. The plate in the door says the following numbers

2100kg
3600kg
1070kg
1080kg

If i get a single trailer downplated to 1400 will I be ok or a Bateson Derby downplated to 1400? Thanks :)
 
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bluetrees said:
So my other option is a VW Passat estate. Log book says it can tow 1500. The plate in the door says the following numbers

2100kg
3600kg
1070kg
1080kg

If i get a single trailer downplated to 1400 will I be ok or a Bateson Derby downplated to 1400? Thanks :)
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2100 GVW
3600 GTW
3600-2100=1500 TOWING CAPACITY
BATESON DERBY is 675 empty so down plating it from 1700 to 1400 would leave a max trailer load of 725kg

Down plating a DERBY to 1300 would leave a max trailer load of 625kg and that would mean a max car GVW of 2200
 
ROG said:
2100 GVW
3600 GTW
3600-2100=1500 TOWING CAPACITY
BATESON DERBY is 675 empty so down plating it from 1700 to 1400 would leave a max trailer load of 725kg

Down plating a DERBY to 1300 would leave a max trailer load of 625kg and that would mean a max car GVW of 2200
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Ah, fantastic. I didnt realise you could pick the downplating amount (within reason!) Awesome, thank you.
 
bluetrees said:
Or does anyone have any suggestions of a car with a GVW of 2000 that I could pull a single ifor or cheval liberte (downplated to 1500)

thanks :)
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Check which single Cheval Liberte trailer you have as the 1003XXL is 200kg heavier than the 1003XL!

We tow a Cheval Liberte 1003XL (550Kg unladen weight, 1400kg MAM) single trailer with a Skoda Yeti 4x4 comfortably within the B license limit
 
bluetrees said:
Ah, fantastic. I didnt realise you could pick the downplating amount (within reason!) Awesome, thank you.
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I think with a Bateson trailer it costs about a tenner to down plate
You contact Bateson with trailer details
You remove current plate and send it to Bateson with money
Bateson send you new plate
You fit new plate

You could also mean a handy person with a metal drill and a pop rivet gun
 
conniegirl said:
Check which single Cheval Liberte trailer you have as the 1003XXL is 200kg heavier than the 1003XL!

We tow a Cheval Liberte 1003XL (550Kg unladen weight, 1400kg MAM) single trailer with a Skoda Yeti 4x4 comfortably within the B license limit
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Unfortunatley the yetis are above my budget. And I don't actually have the trailer yet. I have a double wessex but I thinking of selling and getting a single so that I can stay under the B licence limits.
 
ROG said:
I think with a Bateson trailer it costs about a tenner to down plate
You contact Bateson with trailer details
You remove current plate and send it to Bateson with money
Bateson send you new plate
You fit new plate

You could also mean a handy person with a metal drill and a pop rivet gun
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I know a handy person with a metal drill and pop rivet gun, so that's all good. Now to find the trailer.
 
bluetrees said:
I know a handy person with a metal drill and pop rivet gun, so that's all good. Now to find the trailer.
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lightweight trailers command a higher price because they can be down plated to be used with a B licence so do not be surprised if you find doubles are cheaper than singles!!

To have a trailer down plated the manufacturer must still be trading
 
ROG said:
lightweight trailers command a higher price because they can be down plated to be used with a B licence so do not be surprised if you find doubles are cheaper than singles!!

Yes, I am finding this out.....but there's seems to be a few derbys out there so maybe this is the way I will go.
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