Dressage What does a £1.5million dressage 4 year old look like? This!

Yes I agree with that but sadly not all 'pro' horses that are broken are retired or put down. Many of them get passed on or sold as 'dreams' for more amateur riders who will either not notice problems or not have the same scrutiny as pro riders. Very sad and rather depressing.



horse meat is big on mainland europe
 
i am not `nice`` to them, i treat them with respect

i do believe god gave us horses to ride,the horses i breed are designed to be ridden , i took a great deal of trouble to find horses that have the loins and strength of back to carry, and bred from them.

i`d be interested to know how you think i am er... harming them?
This is the rider's dilemma: yes we love, respect, are nice to, take the best care of (hopefully) our horses, but we should be aware that we are using them for our own ends. We have so altered their lives by domestication that they are no longer really capable of existing with out us (horses are extinct in the wild). I believe that it is our bounden duty to train and care for our horses to the utmost of our ability, but I also recognise that what we are doing is not for the horse's sake. And don't bring god into it please.....things are fractious enough!

ETA: horse meat isn't really all that popular in Europe, more of a thing in Japan.
 
This is the rider's dilemma: yes we love, respect, are nice to, take the best care of (hopefully) our horses, but we should be aware that we are using them for our own ends. We have so altered their lives by domestication that they are no longer really capable of existing with out us (horses are extinct in the wild). I believe that it is our bounden duty to train and care for our horses to the utmost of our ability, but I also recognise that what we are doing is not for the horse's sake. And don't bring god into it please.....things are fractious enough!

ETA: horse meat isn't really all that popular in Europe, more of a thing in Japan.



i always ride to develop the horse, its one of my main beliefs, if i do it well for the horse the reward will come

our own ends does`nt come into it for me, i enjoy my horses and they enjoy me,, and thank old god all the time, simple

``viande chevaline`` has a place in a lot of euro supermarkets i have been in, on mainland europe and restaurants, it is built into a some studs business plans, as an income revenue ie horse meat
 
And if there isn't a god?
Can anyone say they are designed to be ridden then?


there are two thing i have faith in, god and horses


when you think for thousands of years horses were the main form of transport, dpes it really stretch you that much to imagine some design at work

anyway when you find out about god, conclusively that is, please let us know, thanks in advance
 
Yes I agree with that but sadly not all 'pro' horses that are broken are retired or put down. Many of them get passed on or sold as 'dreams' for more amateur riders who will either not notice problems or not have the same scrutiny as pro riders. Very sad and rather depressing.

True...but that can only happen because of the ignorance of others ?

If people didnt over horse themselves/bought the horse they actually needed and engaged with the right professionals then those horses possibly wouldn't end up where they do.

That's not a dig. Its expensive maintaining a horse in work and that increases as the level of work/skill does too. Not everyone has the disposable income to have the regular physio/scans/x-rays so on and on and on...
 
i am not `nice`` to them, i treat them with respect

i do believe god gave us horses to ride,the horses i breed are designed to be ridden , i took a great deal of trouble to find horses that have the loins and strength of back to carry, and bred from them.

i`d be interested to know how you think i am er... harming them?

??‍♀️ sure, god did that and made the magical ponies for you.

Have you ever seen an equine skeleton? Know the names and functions of the muscles, all the muscles? Understand tendons, ligaments, fascia?? Because you're really not posting like someone with any knowledge based on facts.

You post about these mythical methods where no stress (impossible, literally) is exerted onto the horse and all the magical riders, yourself included, who use the best and only ways to train and yet you can produce zero evidence of this in practice.

Theres really no point in engaging with you further; you've shown your hand.
 
well it sort of puts all the worries about the amazing 4yo to bed, god wouldn't have given him that extravagant movement if he was simply going to break down ;)

I'm so glad s/he has put so much effort into prancing ponies and its obviously her/his will when there are so many who have to endure horrific suffering.

It explains why s/he has been too busy to stop wars, starvation, suffering, murders and rapes...far too busy creating special horses that don't conform to the laws of physics and finding lost keys ?
 
I'm so glad s/he has put so much effort into prancing ponies and its obviously her/his will when there are so many who have to endure horrific suffering.

It explains why s/he has been too busy to stop wars, starvation, suffering, murders and rapes...far too busy creating special horses that don't conform to the laws of physics and finding lost keys ?

I'd say god is busy updating pony design to help fight covid. soon the earth will fill with swarms of little minis designed to inhale covid as they eat non-stop
 
??‍♀️ sure, god did that and made the magical ponies for you.

Have you ever seen an equine skeleton? Know the names and functions of the muscles, all the muscles? Understand tendons, ligaments, fascia?? Because you're really not posting like someone with any knowledge based on facts.

You post about these mythical methods where no stress (impossible, literally) is exerted onto the horse and all the magical riders, yourself included, who use the best and only ways to train and yet you can produce zero evidence of this in practice.

Theres really no point in engaging with you further; you've shown your hand.



you sound like a derailed nutcase
 
"Oh God Oh God oHH Jesus!" on the approach to a fence

"Jesus Chriiiist" upon landing

That's the closest to God I've ever got on one of my hairy four legged snorting things of intelligent design.



try wearing a nappy next time........just in case
 
you sound like a derailed nutcase
I'm puzzled, are you really suggesting the anatomy of the horse was "designed " to carry people around? Because I think you've explained before about using slow and progressive training methods which I had understood to be an acknowledgement of the inherent weakness of the horse's body when it is used for... basically anything except hanging out in a field.
 
how on earth did this thread progress to religion? he is a pretty horse and has amazing movement but as i said, i prefer less extravagant paces and valegro is still my favourite i think partly because he is more like the horses i know and have ridden, in my wildest dreams i feel i maybe could ride valegro but know never in a million years could i even manage to sit on that horse, he is well out of my league and most amateur riders.. as i havent ridden anything for 18 months i would be all at sea on a riding school cob now.. :D:D
 
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