Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
Good chin up keep going
I’ve had my moments ( behind closed doors) I can assure you , but i just didn’t think losing it with them would solve anything. But taking it down the legal / official route will /should focus their minds.I'm impressed by your forbearance. I would find it very difficult to keep a civil tongue in my head in such circumstances.
RIP Ronnie.
I am so sorry about your cat, what a horrid thing to happen.I’ve spoken to the neighbours .
I called around earlier but she wasn’t in , so I left my number .
The lady was in tears apologising , saying she hasn’t been able to think about anything else all day . She was going to muzzle the dog and keep on a lead at all times going forwards .
I said that I need to outline the facts and remove the emotion from the situation. There’s nothing I can do about Ronnie now , what I have to do is think of the safety of my other animals and acknowledge the fact we have a dangerous dog living nearby. Her dogs behaviour has escalated over the years and I simply cannot stand by and wait for something else to happen.
I asked that In addition to the muzzle and the lead she stops walking her dog in the farmers field. She said ok .
I explained that I will be sending a solicitors letter outlining the implications of her dog chasing my foals / horses ( whether muzzled or not ) which is still a risk .
I explained I have incident numbers from the warden, so that there is a formal record of the incident . I asked that she send me her email address so I can send the letter that way . So she’s going to text it to me tonight .
Thank you everyone for your kind messages and your advice . Especially FL & CC as I wouldn’t have thought to send a solicitors letter . I will get that organised in the morning.
You can't do anything else through officialdom. However if I were you, I would put up very visible signs warning that dogs in your field will be shot, even if you don't own a gun. Dogs do not have to actually attack stock to be legally worrying, they can just be running about in the field upsetting the stock, which does not only encompass sheep.
You don't need a license for a basic air rifle, and to anyone in the distance, it would look the part if you strutted about carrying it!thats a great idea. i did consider getting my gun licence , but that seems a much easier thing to do. Thanks PAS
I'm so sorry about your cat, it's not nice living with a dangerous dog next door and I completely understand your worries about your foals. And just in case your neighbours plan to continue to use an electric shock collar to control their dog, they are now illegal in the UK.
They aren’t illegal here.I'm so sorry about your cat, it's not nice living with a dangerous dog next door and I completely understand your worries about your foals. And just in case your neighbours plan to continue to use an electric shock collar to control their dog, they are now illegal in the UK.
They aren’t illegal here.
OP, I would definitely get a sheep or two, ask a local farmer? You could get a cull ewe or two for very little money. You would need to register a flock number (I think it’s called).
Have you seen it off lead since the incident?
I would put a couple of sheep in with your horses but I thought they were broodmares/youngsters, which are livestock. You will need a holding number from DEFRA just so that they know where your sheep are
Please be aware that the definition of livestock is an animal that is used for meats and farming. Therefore, if the horses are used as studs, recreational or equestrian, you will not be covered by this law.
I would check that out with DEFRA/BHS tbh. I read only recently that horses can be considered livestock if they are farmed/kept for breeding or used in farming. I can't remember where I read it though, sorry.They are just Youngstock and broodmares but my solicitor confirmed that they are not classed as livestock . This is what she sent me :
I will get in touch with BHS tomorrow. Thank youI would check that out with DEFRA/BHS tbh. I read only recently that horses can be considered livestock if they are farmed/kept for breeding or used in farming. I can't remember where I read it though, sorry.
I don't think the ban on shock collars applies to fences
IMO it should.
There’s quite a big difference.Why?
Surely that should also mean banning electric fencing for horses,, and farm animals?
They are just Youngstock and broodmares but my solicitor confirmed that they are not classed as livestock . This is what she sent me :
Why?
Because they inflict pain, that's how they work.
There’s quite a big difference.
You cut my quote.
So you would ban electric fence for horses on the same basis that you would ban them for dogs?
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You are posting on a the dog section of the forum. My reply was about dogs.
And I asked a completely reasonable question about whether your ban of electric fencing applies to all species, because if it doesn't I want to know what you think is diffeent about electric fencing for DOGS.
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Why? (Genuinely curious). If you think electric fence is cruel, then it’s cruel for everything. So my chickens shouldn’t be protected from the fox by electric as it’s cruel to the fox.There’s quite a big difference.