RantBucket
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Probably when the tablets wear off!
What was Jamie Grays' line of business?
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maybedaisy
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No problem. I just didn't want anyone to think I was in any way a JG supporter.
patty19
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Yes rather tiring isnt it!?
And round and round we go again!
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Yes rather tiring isnt it!?
patty19
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Patty- no, meat trading isnt illegal. But travelling horses live for meat is unpalatable to alot of people.
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But not illegal so JG would have no reason to deny it.
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How exactly do you feel about the Hook not Hoof campaign?
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I totally agree with the campaign.
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Dont be so naive Patty, of course JG sold horses for meat abroad and he bought back horses from Holland because it makes more sense than bringing back an empty lorry.
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Purely speculation on your part. Lots of traders legally take horses abroad for purposes other than meat. Why should JG be any different?
You need to stop being naive - you and others have brought into the mother of all lies.
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I suggest he didnt own up to selling horses for meat because somewhere along the line it wasnt all above board, hence he kept it quiet to avoid further investigation and the possible uncovering of a less than legal actvity or a more serious charge than animal cruelty.
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Where do you get off on making such statments?
Seriously woman, you could write scripts for Eastenders.
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He may have sold some coloureds as riding horses but not the number of horses he got through. There just isnt the market for that number of non-descript horses. Other than in the meat trade.
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So says the worlds top horse trader. Go learn a thing or two about horse trading before you make anymore statments such as you have been making.
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Wake up Patty, i dont know what you have been told but live export for meat is JGs business, possibly with a little sideline.
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I've never been so awake. You need to wake up and stop dreaming such dreams to which there is no foundation.
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We're at page 19 now and you have had a fair chance at answering the question, so ive answered it for you.
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I have answered question after question and have asked people to point me to the questions they have accused my of ignoring.
You have answered your own questions with answers you IMAGINE may have been the case.
Patty- no, meat trading isnt illegal. But travelling horses live for meat is unpalatable to alot of people.
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But not illegal so JG would have no reason to deny it.
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How exactly do you feel about the Hook not Hoof campaign?
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I totally agree with the campaign.
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Dont be so naive Patty, of course JG sold horses for meat abroad and he bought back horses from Holland because it makes more sense than bringing back an empty lorry.
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Purely speculation on your part. Lots of traders legally take horses abroad for purposes other than meat. Why should JG be any different?
You need to stop being naive - you and others have brought into the mother of all lies.
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I suggest he didnt own up to selling horses for meat because somewhere along the line it wasnt all above board, hence he kept it quiet to avoid further investigation and the possible uncovering of a less than legal actvity or a more serious charge than animal cruelty.
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Where do you get off on making such statments?
Seriously woman, you could write scripts for Eastenders.
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He may have sold some coloureds as riding horses but not the number of horses he got through. There just isnt the market for that number of non-descript horses. Other than in the meat trade.
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So says the worlds top horse trader. Go learn a thing or two about horse trading before you make anymore statments such as you have been making.
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Wake up Patty, i dont know what you have been told but live export for meat is JGs business, possibly with a little sideline.
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I've never been so awake. You need to wake up and stop dreaming such dreams to which there is no foundation.
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We're at page 19 now and you have had a fair chance at answering the question, so ive answered it for you.
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I have answered question after question and have asked people to point me to the questions they have accused my of ignoring.
You have answered your own questions with answers you IMAGINE may have been the case.
patty19
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Use the tune of "Rain rain go away"
"Patty Patty go away and don't come back another day"
And please use your brain for ONCE and don't quote me,
I CAN'T SEE IT IT
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Shame I dont believe you isnt it!?
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AND PLUS I AM NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY,
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Then maybe you should stop addressing me because you sure have a strange way of showing your so-called lack of interest.
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YOU ARE A FAKE
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The only thing fake about me is my hair colour.
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LIVING IN PATTYLAND WITH GREEN FROGS JUMPING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH,YOU KNOW ABSOLUTE NOTHING,I KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HORSES AND YOU KNOW IT,J.G WAS FOUND GUILTY ACCEPT IT AND GET ON WITH YOUR SAD LITTLE LIFE....
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I have a very happy life indeed. Shame you haven't.
If you knew the truth you would use your time here to defend JG. Or you may know the truth but prefer to lie as you have been doing for the past 16 months. Thats why I have renamed you SERIAL LIAR!! Hope you appreciate my good will and my eye for spotting a liar when I see one.
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WITH THAT OFF MY CHEST I AM OFF TO ENJOY THE REST OF MY DAY
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A holiday is what you make of it so go right ahead I would.
While you're at it you may want to think about treating the nappy rash around your mouth, I'm sure you'll enjoy your day a lots better with some soothing cream slapped on it.
Use the tune of "Rain rain go away"
"Patty Patty go away and don't come back another day"
And please use your brain for ONCE and don't quote me,
I CAN'T SEE IT IT
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Shame I dont believe you isnt it!?
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AND PLUS I AM NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY,
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Then maybe you should stop addressing me because you sure have a strange way of showing your so-called lack of interest.
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YOU ARE A FAKE
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The only thing fake about me is my hair colour.
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LIVING IN PATTYLAND WITH GREEN FROGS JUMPING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH,YOU KNOW ABSOLUTE NOTHING,I KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HORSES AND YOU KNOW IT,J.G WAS FOUND GUILTY ACCEPT IT AND GET ON WITH YOUR SAD LITTLE LIFE....
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I have a very happy life indeed. Shame you haven't.
If you knew the truth you would use your time here to defend JG. Or you may know the truth but prefer to lie as you have been doing for the past 16 months. Thats why I have renamed you SERIAL LIAR!! Hope you appreciate my good will and my eye for spotting a liar when I see one.
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WITH THAT OFF MY CHEST I AM OFF TO ENJOY THE REST OF MY DAY
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A holiday is what you make of it so go right ahead I would.
While you're at it you may want to think about treating the nappy rash around your mouth, I'm sure you'll enjoy your day a lots better with some soothing cream slapped on it.
patty19
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Sad Patty is asleep across the continent
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Yeah you wish.
Sad Patty is asleep across the continent
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Yeah you wish.
patty19
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BUSHFIRE INQUIRY blog - : www.sosnews.org/bushfires
24/7 news service NEWSFRONT - : www.sosnews.org/newsfront
editor@sosnews.org
www.sosnews.org
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I'm sure this is very interesting, but it relates to the Australian RSPCA. A completely different organisation with it's own systems and politics.
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Same unjust actions.
In your opinion do you think that the RSPCA down under is viewed in the same light that the RSPCA here is - That they risk life and limb to rescue unfortunate animals?
Or do you think the majority of the Australian public view the RSPCA as I do?
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BUSHFIRE INQUIRY blog - : www.sosnews.org/bushfires
24/7 news service NEWSFRONT - : www.sosnews.org/newsfront
editor@sosnews.org
www.sosnews.org
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I'm sure this is very interesting, but it relates to the Australian RSPCA. A completely different organisation with it's own systems and politics.
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Same unjust actions.
In your opinion do you think that the RSPCA down under is viewed in the same light that the RSPCA here is - That they risk life and limb to rescue unfortunate animals?
Or do you think the majority of the Australian public view the RSPCA as I do?
patty19
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Sorry patty I may have missed this but his previous conviction for animal cruelty in 2006 was upheld on appeal, why do you think/believe he won the appeal???
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Cant be certain of the exact date but it was discussed in court.
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And does it really matter everyone whether he was a horse trader to the meat trade or not, I believe he was a dealer in all horses where he thought there maybe a quick pound in it, this may sometimes mean selling to the riding market, some to the meat etc etc. It really doesn't matter as it is irrelelvant to the case.
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It is irrelelvant to the case but still, he did not trade in meat.
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Whatever his business, there is no excuse for having 31 dead carcases on site, another 3 horses needing euthanasia on seisure and another 15 horses within hours of death if not seized immediately......
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Was the exact reason ever noted as to what those animals would have died of if not removed immediately?
I dont recall any reason being given throughout the entire trial. But being it was broadcasted that JG starved his animals I assume the reason they would give would be that they would have died of starvation.
Maybe anorexic people who are within HOURS of death should be placed in the care of the RSPCA because apparently they can work miracles with a good square meal.
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If your defense is that he bought these horses in this condition then he was obviously a bad dealer, why spend money on a horse that is near to death? There'd be no money to make in them, in fact it would cost him in vets bills, possible euthanasia and disposal (oh sorry he didn't dispose of them!!! LOL!)
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And there would be even less money to be made if he bought them in good condition just to starve them to death/near death.
The more logical and true expanation is that none of them were half dead, but yes, a handful of them were in poor condition when he brought them, and he was building them up to sell on for a profit.
This excludes the idea of him being a complete and utter fruit cake who spends money on well covered horses just to decrease their value by starving them, and sometimes suffering complete losses if they die.
How is it ever possible to keep a business running for so many years if it was run in the way people are suggesting it was? It would be totally impossible.
Sorry patty I may have missed this but his previous conviction for animal cruelty in 2006 was upheld on appeal, why do you think/believe he won the appeal???
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Cant be certain of the exact date but it was discussed in court.
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And does it really matter everyone whether he was a horse trader to the meat trade or not, I believe he was a dealer in all horses where he thought there maybe a quick pound in it, this may sometimes mean selling to the riding market, some to the meat etc etc. It really doesn't matter as it is irrelelvant to the case.
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It is irrelelvant to the case but still, he did not trade in meat.
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Whatever his business, there is no excuse for having 31 dead carcases on site, another 3 horses needing euthanasia on seisure and another 15 horses within hours of death if not seized immediately......
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Was the exact reason ever noted as to what those animals would have died of if not removed immediately?
I dont recall any reason being given throughout the entire trial. But being it was broadcasted that JG starved his animals I assume the reason they would give would be that they would have died of starvation.
Maybe anorexic people who are within HOURS of death should be placed in the care of the RSPCA because apparently they can work miracles with a good square meal.
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If your defense is that he bought these horses in this condition then he was obviously a bad dealer, why spend money on a horse that is near to death? There'd be no money to make in them, in fact it would cost him in vets bills, possible euthanasia and disposal (oh sorry he didn't dispose of them!!! LOL!)
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And there would be even less money to be made if he bought them in good condition just to starve them to death/near death.
The more logical and true expanation is that none of them were half dead, but yes, a handful of them were in poor condition when he brought them, and he was building them up to sell on for a profit.
This excludes the idea of him being a complete and utter fruit cake who spends money on well covered horses just to decrease their value by starving them, and sometimes suffering complete losses if they die.
How is it ever possible to keep a business running for so many years if it was run in the way people are suggesting it was? It would be totally impossible.
Brandysnap
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Maybe we should all heed H+H's admin's sensible advice, and stop feeding the troll?
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
patty19
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This was the point of my question.
Trying to understand what his trade was?
I've no problem with meat traders either as long as the horses are properly cared for and transported all the time they are alive.
After all, it's no different to sheep/cattle farming.
But I just couldn't see why the chap would have emaciated horses in his barns.
Even if you bought them like that, you'd fatten them up for sale wouldn't you?
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Absolutely. There is not a shred of evidence to say that JG was not doing so.
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And he must have the paperwork for each horse that states when he bought it, so surely for the ones that were below correct weight, he could prove that he'd not had them long?
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He did indeed have the paper work.
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Again, that's my query? Had they started off being fine and got to that stage through his mis-management?
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JG has been trading in horses for his entire working life. If the animals he brought became poor due to him mismanaging them then he would have been broke years ago.
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Even Patty can't answer that one surely? She didn't reside with JG? Or did she?
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Besides it being a proven fact that he did not starve or neglect his animals which were his living, it's also common sense. See above.
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If he didn't keep his paperwork in order then he was truly an idiot.
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He had his paperwork in order.
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Anyway, 19 pages later and I'm none the wiser, though it's been an interesting debate.
Over and out!
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Have a serious think as to how any trader could possibly earn a living if he ran a business in the way people are suggesting JG ran his business.
This was the point of my question.
Trying to understand what his trade was?
I've no problem with meat traders either as long as the horses are properly cared for and transported all the time they are alive.
After all, it's no different to sheep/cattle farming.
But I just couldn't see why the chap would have emaciated horses in his barns.
Even if you bought them like that, you'd fatten them up for sale wouldn't you?
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Absolutely. There is not a shred of evidence to say that JG was not doing so.
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And he must have the paperwork for each horse that states when he bought it, so surely for the ones that were below correct weight, he could prove that he'd not had them long?
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He did indeed have the paper work.
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Again, that's my query? Had they started off being fine and got to that stage through his mis-management?
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JG has been trading in horses for his entire working life. If the animals he brought became poor due to him mismanaging them then he would have been broke years ago.
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Even Patty can't answer that one surely? She didn't reside with JG? Or did she?
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Besides it being a proven fact that he did not starve or neglect his animals which were his living, it's also common sense. See above.
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If he didn't keep his paperwork in order then he was truly an idiot.
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He had his paperwork in order.
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Anyway, 19 pages later and I'm none the wiser, though it's been an interesting debate.
Over and out!
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Have a serious think as to how any trader could possibly earn a living if he ran a business in the way people are suggesting JG ran his business.
patty19
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Patty its certainly not normal to find dead Horses on any yard.
Yes I agree horses can come onto yards in poor condition. We have one at the moment, but we don't have any dead ones. He maybe thin but he is clean, has a clean stable, plenty of food and is not crammed into a dirty barn.
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No it's not normal to have dead horses at a yard but not every yard has a red worm outbreak. Plus, is the yard you are speaking of a traders yard? Not saying that traders should have dead horses but surely any trader who deals with 100's of animals suffers loss.
Sadly, at that particular time JG suffered more loss than normal.
If JG was the kind of trader people are saying he was who starved his animals to death how could he have afford to buy the animals that were seized?
And if it was his normal practice to not dispose of fallen stock, surely over the space of 9 years there would have been more bodies. And if those bodies were left where they fell surely they would have been seen by people who went to the yard in those 9 years.
They were not crammed in by JG. That was the handy work of the RSPCA after bringing them in from the field.
Patty its certainly not normal to find dead Horses on any yard.
Yes I agree horses can come onto yards in poor condition. We have one at the moment, but we don't have any dead ones. He maybe thin but he is clean, has a clean stable, plenty of food and is not crammed into a dirty barn.
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No it's not normal to have dead horses at a yard but not every yard has a red worm outbreak. Plus, is the yard you are speaking of a traders yard? Not saying that traders should have dead horses but surely any trader who deals with 100's of animals suffers loss.
Sadly, at that particular time JG suffered more loss than normal.
If JG was the kind of trader people are saying he was who starved his animals to death how could he have afford to buy the animals that were seized?
And if it was his normal practice to not dispose of fallen stock, surely over the space of 9 years there would have been more bodies. And if those bodies were left where they fell surely they would have been seen by people who went to the yard in those 9 years.
They were not crammed in by JG. That was the handy work of the RSPCA after bringing them in from the field.
jacks_mum
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Patty, could I just point out the difference between BOUGHT and BROUGHT please because you are driving me nuts with your consistent misuse of the two.
Bought - as in buy. when you buy some thing you have BOUGHT it.
Brought - when you bring something with you, you BROUGHT it along.
Sorry to be a pedant but I am finding myself mentally shouting the correction when I read your posts and it is spoiling my enjoyment of this 'debate'.
Bought - as in buy. when you buy some thing you have BOUGHT it.
Brought - when you bring something with you, you BROUGHT it along.
Sorry to be a pedant but I am finding myself mentally shouting the correction when I read your posts and it is spoiling my enjoyment of this 'debate'.
RantBucket
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That made me laugh out loud Jacks_Mum! Poor misguided Patty she isn't sure who she is MyJack or Patty never mind about being sure about what she writes on here.
jrp204
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Shall we start a game of hangman, you know the one........
JG's trade was _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Patty, you will need to start this one, guess we'll all get hung though!
JG's trade was _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Patty, you will need to start this one, guess we'll all get hung though!
dozzie
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Happy Horse
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No it's not normal to have dead horses at a yard but not every yard has a red worm outbreak. Plus, is the yard you are speaking of a traders yard? Not saying that traders should have dead horses but surely any trader who deals with 100's of animals suffers loss.
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You have told me when I asked previously that JG did not know the horses were dying of Redworm until the enquiry. From this I gather that he had horses dying of unknown causes, you have also said that he did not have any post mortems done on the dead horses so he was putting the other horses at risk by not disposing of them or finding the cause and giving preventative treatment to the rest.
I don't dispute that someone dealing in that amount of animals will suffer loss but not hide them under rubbish, unsuccessfully attempt to burn them or leave them dead in a trailer for two weeks. I am sure any farmer worth his salt who has more than one animal die in a short time from unknown causes would be finding out the cause and acting on the results.
No it's not normal to have dead horses at a yard but not every yard has a red worm outbreak. Plus, is the yard you are speaking of a traders yard? Not saying that traders should have dead horses but surely any trader who deals with 100's of animals suffers loss.
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You have told me when I asked previously that JG did not know the horses were dying of Redworm until the enquiry. From this I gather that he had horses dying of unknown causes, you have also said that he did not have any post mortems done on the dead horses so he was putting the other horses at risk by not disposing of them or finding the cause and giving preventative treatment to the rest.
I don't dispute that someone dealing in that amount of animals will suffer loss but not hide them under rubbish, unsuccessfully attempt to burn them or leave them dead in a trailer for two weeks. I am sure any farmer worth his salt who has more than one animal die in a short time from unknown causes would be finding out the cause and acting on the results.
maybedaisy
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Patty the court obviously didn't accept the 'excuse' about the red worm outbreak and neither do I.
The courts convict on a basis of beyond reasonable doubt. He's guilty!
The courts convict on a basis of beyond reasonable doubt. He's guilty!
dozzie
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Patty
I have been thinking about all this long and hard. Hard to believe I know.
Now if as you say he was set up, the question is why? Why would the charities have gone to such lengths to ensure that there was enough evidence to prosecute him and stop him trading?
And you have given me the answers I was looking for.
Is he guilty of cruelty? Yes he is Patty. It may have been legal, but nevertheless it was cruelty. Cruelty that had happened and cruelty that was going to happen.
I have been thinking about all this long and hard. Hard to believe I know.
Now if as you say he was set up, the question is why? Why would the charities have gone to such lengths to ensure that there was enough evidence to prosecute him and stop him trading?
And you have given me the answers I was looking for.
Is he guilty of cruelty? Yes he is Patty. It may have been legal, but nevertheless it was cruelty. Cruelty that had happened and cruelty that was going to happen.
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Patty, could I just point out the difference between BOUGHT and BROUGHT please because you are driving me nuts with your consistent misuse of the two.
Bought - as in buy. when you buy some thing you have BOUGHT it.
Brought - when you bring something with you, you BROUGHT it along.
Sorry to be a pedant but I am finding myself mentally shouting the correction when I read your posts and it is spoiling my enjoyment of this 'debate'.
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Thank you for that, saved me the bother
Patty, could I just point out the difference between BOUGHT and BROUGHT please because you are driving me nuts with your consistent misuse of the two.
Bought - as in buy. when you buy some thing you have BOUGHT it.
Brought - when you bring something with you, you BROUGHT it along.
Sorry to be a pedant but I am finding myself mentally shouting the correction when I read your posts and it is spoiling my enjoyment of this 'debate'.
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Thank you for that, saved me the bother
Gladioli
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Patty you have said there was only one dirty barn which was not clean and fluffy (sorry paraphrasing and I cant copy and paste at the moment) How do you propose it got in that state if it was not for animals being in there, therefore they must have at some point have been living in there for it to get full of faeces? Do you agree? or am I missing the point here? Do you think it is ok for some horses to be housed like at all?
An answer to these questions/ statements would be appreciated.
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If you read the thread you see I have already answered this question. <font color="blue"> I have read all of the thread and sorry but you have not </font>
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I have been involved with horses for over 20 years, I know the good dealers and I know the bad dealers, I know what obviously sick horses look like, I know what emaciated horses look like. I think you are insulting people's intelligence by suggesting that those horses were well looked after, if you wish to suggest that maybe a horse forum is not the best place to do it as most people here are experienced with the care of horses.
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With 20 years experience you'll know that dealers sometimes buy in horses that are not in top condition.
You only know what the rspca/media have told you about JG. <font color="blue"> Not in top condition is understatement of the century. Some were dead, you dont get much poorer condition than that. How do you know that I was not there in the court room for the case? Maybe I have a friend who allowed me access to all of the evidence? </font>
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Patty you have said there was only one dirty barn which was not clean and fluffy (sorry paraphrasing and I cant copy and paste at the moment) How do you propose it got in that state if it was not for animals being in there, therefore they must have at some point have been living in there for it to get full of faeces? Do you agree? or am I missing the point here? Do you think it is ok for some horses to be housed like at all?
An answer to these questions/ statements would be appreciated.
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If you read the thread you see I have already answered this question. <font color="blue"> I have read all of the thread and sorry but you have not </font>
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I have been involved with horses for over 20 years, I know the good dealers and I know the bad dealers, I know what obviously sick horses look like, I know what emaciated horses look like. I think you are insulting people's intelligence by suggesting that those horses were well looked after, if you wish to suggest that maybe a horse forum is not the best place to do it as most people here are experienced with the care of horses.
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With 20 years experience you'll know that dealers sometimes buy in horses that are not in top condition.
You only know what the rspca/media have told you about JG. <font color="blue"> Not in top condition is understatement of the century. Some were dead, you dont get much poorer condition than that. How do you know that I was not there in the court room for the case? Maybe I have a friend who allowed me access to all of the evidence? </font>
Over2You
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Patty, could I just point out the difference between BOUGHT and BROUGHT please because you are driving me nuts with your consistent misuse of the two.
Bought - as in buy. when you buy some thing you have BOUGHT it.
Brought - when you bring something with you, you BROUGHT it along.
Sorry to be a pedant but I am finding myself mentally shouting the correction when I read your posts and it is spoiling my enjoyment of this 'debate'.
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I wish it were just that. Most of the contributors here (including Patty) simply cannot spell, punctuate or capitalize properly. It truly perplexes me as to how people can be as lazy. It only takes a minute to consult a dictionary or to run some kind of spell checker. I can remember a time when individuals would take pride in having a strongly held grasp of the English language. How I yearn for those days when I see the countless primary-school examples of it on this board.
Patty, could I just point out the difference between BOUGHT and BROUGHT please because you are driving me nuts with your consistent misuse of the two.
Bought - as in buy. when you buy some thing you have BOUGHT it.
Brought - when you bring something with you, you BROUGHT it along.
Sorry to be a pedant but I am finding myself mentally shouting the correction when I read your posts and it is spoiling my enjoyment of this 'debate'.
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I wish it were just that. Most of the contributors here (including Patty) simply cannot spell, punctuate or capitalize properly. It truly perplexes me as to how people can be as lazy. It only takes a minute to consult a dictionary or to run some kind of spell checker. I can remember a time when individuals would take pride in having a strongly held grasp of the English language. How I yearn for those days when I see the countless primary-school examples of it on this board.
patty19
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whot is the problom wiv my speling? i aways fort i waz a good spela and good wiv the inglish langwige. i lernd to reed rite and spel at a yung aje. lots ov peepal hear ar good spelers as far as i can sea. don wury abouwt it.
Over2You
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No Patty, you most definitely are not a good speller. I could go through all your posts and quote them with the correct spelling, but (unlike you) I do not sit-up all night in front of my computer. Oh, and what exactly is a vulcher? I looked it up in the dictionary and couldn't find a definition. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
patty19
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No Patty, you most definitely are not a good speller. I could go through all your posts and quote them with the correct spelling, but (unlike you) I do not sit-up all night in front of my computer. Oh, and what exactly is a vulcher? I looked it up in the dictionary and couldn't find a definition. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
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i sertinly am a good spela just look at my preeveoos post if yoo dont beleev me. a vulcher is a werd i mayd up aw by mysewf.
i fink i need to teech yoo how to spel bekoos it looks lyk im the onlee persen hoo can spel rownd ear.
my chooterin fees ar cheepist abowt so av a fink abowt it an get bak to me.
if anywun els is intrestid i wil teech klarsers/groops to keep the pryse doun for yoo
No Patty, you most definitely are not a good speller. I could go through all your posts and quote them with the correct spelling, but (unlike you) I do not sit-up all night in front of my computer. Oh, and what exactly is a vulcher? I looked it up in the dictionary and couldn't find a definition. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
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i sertinly am a good spela just look at my preeveoos post if yoo dont beleev me. a vulcher is a werd i mayd up aw by mysewf.
i fink i need to teech yoo how to spel bekoos it looks lyk im the onlee persen hoo can spel rownd ear.
my chooterin fees ar cheepist abowt so av a fink abowt it an get bak to me.
if anywun els is intrestid i wil teech klarsers/groops to keep the pryse doun for yoo
RantBucket
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Go to bed Patty its only 11 days until the sentencing you will need your beauty sleep if you are going to meet us all at Aylesbury. Don't forget to wear your name badge!
spaniel
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Just to clarify....well just for Patty really.....the previous conviction WAS upheld on appeal.....really.....Ive read it.....he definitely did NOT win the case on appeal.....REALLY HE DID NOT.
Is that clear enough????
Is that clear enough????
TheresaW
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So, are you saying he didn't win the case on appeal?
I think you are wasting your breath anyway. Am sure Patty will have some evidence somewhere that she can't actually get her hands on to the contrary.
I think you are wasting your breath anyway. Am sure Patty will have some evidence somewhere that she can't actually get her hands on to the contrary.
RantBucket
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JG has a previous conviction for causing unnecessary suffering after failing to call a vet when a piebald colt needed treatment. He was found guilty and fined £3,500 and ordered to pay £7,871 costs by Hemel Hempstead Magistrates Court in October 2006, in a case brought by the RSPCA. He appealed against the conviction on the advice of his solicitor but the appeal was unsuccessful.
PoppyAnderson
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*Hello* patty *Waves*, it'd be great if you'd answer my question, which is a couple of pages back now. I've been through all 400 or so posts and you haven't answered this question in any of them directly. You've hinted and intimated but you haven't given a straight answer.
Paddywhack
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Hopefully Patty has gone to sleep in Pattyland forever,she can't answer any questions since she does not know anything.........Hint and intimidation is Patty's speciality when she get cornered and does not have a clue