Errin Paddywack
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I think they were advertised as a one off accidental mating
XL Bullies not banned in Scotland
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P3LH
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‘I didn’t vote for that t*** Sunak, so I ain’t following nothing’ bellowed a man walking three, off lead and without muzzle, through town this morning when I went to the bank. I would assume someone had quizzed him.
I have seen a few already, muzzled and seemingly calm/ok with this - so there are responsible owners out there within the breed. Equally I’ve seen over sixty since Christmas, being shared by the local dog warden social media page as ‘found wandering’ - so dumping has been popular in these parts.
I remain on the fence about the whole thing, not that I think the breed are blameless or it’s just bad owners. They are what they are, and designed for what they’re designed for. Having had one try to have a pop at me as I posted on here last year, I can’t imagine how terrifying being attacked by one is. I just don’t see this knee jerk reaction having the desired impact.
Those well meaning organisations who have redistributed these dogs have potentially sown seeds of incredible damage.
I have seen a few already, muzzled and seemingly calm/ok with this - so there are responsible owners out there within the breed. Equally I’ve seen over sixty since Christmas, being shared by the local dog warden social media page as ‘found wandering’ - so dumping has been popular in these parts.
I remain on the fence about the whole thing, not that I think the breed are blameless or it’s just bad owners. They are what they are, and designed for what they’re designed for. Having had one try to have a pop at me as I posted on here last year, I can’t imagine how terrifying being attacked by one is. I just don’t see this knee jerk reaction having the desired impact.
Those well meaning organisations who have redistributed these dogs have potentially sown seeds of incredible damage.
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Equi
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When you have an entire male and an entire female of mating age, nothing is accidental. It’s not as if dogs are suttle about sex.I think they were advertised as a one off accidental mating
PapaverFollis
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I think I saw one of these bad boys dragging his hapless owner around Tesco car park on an unlocked wally lead this morning. Yeah, no. I'm sure it was a lovely dog but it was not under control and I'd have felt a lot happier if it had a muzzle and a short lead on.
Yay for Scotland (sarcasm).
Deed not breed sounds lovely but I'd rather be savaged by a cockerpoo given the choice.
Yay for Scotland (sarcasm).
Deed not breed sounds lovely but I'd rather be savaged by a cockerpoo given the choice.
twiggy2
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I dint know it does happen, dogs get out, someone opens the wrong door at the wrong time however there is a mismate injection to prevent the litter being born, problem is its expensive.
Chucho
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According to the AKC/what I have read about them, the breeds American Bulldog and Olde English Bulldog are not related to pitbulls and therefore would be exempt from the DDA (and equivalent legislation in the parts of the US/other countries where pitbulls are also banned).
Whether or not they are the breeds stated, and how that would be verified, is a different matter of course.
This example highlights just how difficult it can be to verify dogs based on sight, particularly without detailed knowledge of dog breeds.
To me, it just strengthens the argument for licensing/registering all dogs to avoid any confusion over who is what and what rules apply.
Cortez
Tough but Fair
Firstly, both of those "breeds" have been involved in fatal attacks, and I don't believe for one second that there is no pitbull in their ancestry.
conniegirl
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Nope. The it has never been the breed that was bannned it has always been the type, so if it looks like a pit or a derivative there of, then it is deemed a pit.
The legislation explicitly states pitbull type so as to catch the partbreds.
If it had been just the breed then producing breed papers would be enough to free the animals but it never has been.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Very interesting point raised in a conversation I had with someone earlier...the very tight coat, face shape and potentially absent ears in these dogs means it's much harder to gauge if it's about to do someone imminently.
At least with pointy faces and ears and plenty of hair you know when it's coming and have time to de-escalate/get out of Dodge.
At least with pointy faces and ears and plenty of hair you know when it's coming and have time to de-escalate/get out of Dodge.
equinerebel
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An acquaintance of mine has taken to posting "sad" photos of their XL wearing a muzzle on socials on the daily
Katieg123
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An acquaintance of mine has taken to posting "sad" photos of their XL wearing a muzzle on socials on the daily
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Saw one that had been a very cute puppy that is now huge at the bottom of my lane today, randomly lunging and dragging his (large, middle aged male) owner over to something he wanted to look at, yay.
Jenko109
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Howling 
Goldenstar
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Well as long as it’s got it’s on I am happyAn acquaintance of mine has taken to posting "sad" photos of their XL wearing a muzzle on socials on the daily
Moobli
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Sensible!
news.stv.tv
Scots told not to buy XL bully dogs as Government set to ban breed
It comes amid an influx of XL bullies to Scotland since the UK Government banned the breeding, selling or abandonment of the dogs south of the border on December 31.
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
Deeply unsurprised, especially given the sudden influx of dogs from England!Sensible!
Scots told not to buy XL bully dogs as Government set to ban breed
It comes amid an influx of XL bullies to Scotland since the UK Government banned the breeding, selling or abandonment of the dogs south of the border on December 31.
twiggy2
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It would have been far more sensible to have banned them at the same time as England and Wales to prevent the influx of them that is now going to have to be dealt with in scotland, such a mess.Sensible!
Scots told not to buy XL bully dogs as Government set to ban breed
It comes amid an influx of XL bullies to Scotland since the UK Government banned the breeding, selling or abandonment of the dogs south of the border on December 31.
SaddlePsych'D
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I'm sorry but how on earth is this an advert for a "great family pet with a friendly disposition"
bonny
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You shouldn’t expect the SNP to be sensible!
Cortez
Tough but Fair
Oh great; now they'll all be on the ferry to N. Ireland......
bonny
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Perfect if you’ve got small children ?
Jenko109
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SaddlePsych'D
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Ha! I was literally about to reply the exact same.That you don't like?
Clodagh
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That’s absolutely sums up the conflicted nature of their supporters. How many dog can ‘scare strangers, keep you safe, protect your property and also tuck your baby up for the night and not mind having fingers stuck in its eyes by your toddler.’ All in one crop earred, steroid looking package.
CanteringCarrot
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Some of them are so wide or...toad like.
Roasted Chestnuts
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They wanted to review the legislation
loads and loads of people are against this ban, which I agree with btw these dogs just have too many red flags, but I definitely don’t envy vets up and down the country right now. Instead what should have been done was a ban on moving the dogs up here, that was just stupid people trying to get round the law, now there will just be more dumped up here as a consequence.I just feel sorry for the poor dogs, moved from pillar to post to be destroyed instead of just be neutered registered and muzzled in public. The things this country rebels against
sweats the small things whilst the big things go unchallenged. Typical really
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
'Sweats the small stuff'?! This type has killed people recently. What do you think the government ought to do about them? Ignore them? Set them on the poor people coming across in small boats? (I'm being super cynical, I obviously don't mean it!)They wanted to review the legislation
I just feel sorry for the poor dogs, moved from pillar to post to be destroyed instead of just be neutered registered and muzzled in public. The things this country rebels against
This is something the government can tackle to (hopefully) good effect. Were they to ignore it, there'd even more metaphorical burning at the stake of the Tories.
Roasted Chestnuts
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I’m talking about the actual state of the UK. The constant poverty and squeezing being done by our government, the smoke screening like this whole incident, then these ‘gestures’ to get on peoples good sides that are then rebelled against.
That’s the big stuff I’m talking about. I’m not putting down the incidents that have happened I don’t like these dogs or the vast majority of mastiff/bulldog breeds. I don’t particularly like Rottweilers either after being chased by one but hey ho. However all these people up in arms about doing a few changes to their ownership of these dogs, shipping them up here, saying they won’t stand for this that or the next things to do with their dogs but the country’s a shit show and that’s alright as long as they have their dogs the way they want them. Again I’m glad about the ban but it’s just created a shit show up herewith the way the whole thing has been handled.
That was my point.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
That's just a load of derps dragging twerps.
marmalade76
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They're just fugly if you ask me, ugly shape, ugly eye colour, ugly skin colour, ugly coat colour - mingers!