Yet another delightful rider..... not..... when will this end?

[ester]

They don’t seem to be too hard to find, there’s quite a few out there putting their names to it atm

 

[TPO]

They don’t seem to be too hard to find, there’s quite a few out there putting their names to it atm

This

They've already reported him to no avail.

Grooms, ex clients, other competitors (allegedly) have all spoken up and reported him.

 

[LEC]

So how come CDJ could be suspended immediately?

I suspect that invokes disrepute of the organisation as hit national newspapers and no doubting it was her. Also came out with statement admitting guilt which actually came before the federations and national bodies banned so not just hearsay.

The big issue with videos above is they need to prove evidence and if AM says nope not me then they can’t just suspend people…. I know people want immediate action but sometimes it’s more nuanced.

 

[ihatework]

I suspect that invokes disrepute of the organisation as hit national newspapers and no doubting it was her. Also came out with statement admitting guilt which actually came before the federations and national bodies banned so not just hearsay.

The big issue with videos above is they need to prove evidence and if AM says nope not me then they can’t just suspend people…. I know people want immediate action but sometimes it’s more nuanced.

Of course, no dispute on that, but if reports are to be believed this was reported to governing bodies months ago.
Like I said, where there’s a will there’s a way.

 

[holeymoley]

Would be getting this from me

 

[LEC]

Btw I am playing devils advocate here, but we also need to be careful as deep fakes and the capacity of AI is growing. We also know outrage makes money. Dressage Hub makes thousands out of it under the guise of promoting welfare which also borders on bullying.

I can see why federations are cautious as this is moving faster than they can cope with and they need legal advice before changing rules because can you as a federation really have reach over what someone does at home outside of the competition arena?

We are all used to it with jobs (if you get drunk and end up in Daily Heil doing something horrendous then you are often let go…) so I am not sure why with a membership body it can’t be implemented but it will need careful wording.

It’s a very fast changing world. It is the Me Too moment for horses and so it should be.

 

[cauda equina]

Of course, no dispute on that, but if reports are to be believed this was reported to governing bodies months ago.
Like I said, where there’s a will there’s a way.

At the very least you would hope that owners would take their horses away, and sponsors their money

 

[SkylarkAscending]

How could he ever suggest that wasn’t him? If he was an employee he would be suspended and dismissed quicker than I can type it (following the correct ACAS process of course)

What a contemptible piece of **** he is

 

[ester]

so yes parra was suspended by usef and FEI pending investigation, don’t see why this is different

 

[sbloom]

I'm sorry but in so many ways this is a feature, not a glitch. I know most won't see it that way but we need wholesale change to reduce these sorts of incidents to near zero, there is a whole lot more to come I'm sure.

 

[I'm Dun]

I suspect that invokes disrepute of the organisation as hit national newspapers and no doubting it was her. Also came out with statement admitting guilt which actually came before the federations and national bodies banned so not just hearsay.

The big issue with videos above is they need to prove evidence and if AM says nope not me then they can’t just suspend people…. I know people want immediate action but sometimes it’s more nuanced.

If it was me in the video and I denied it, work would suspend me while it was investigated. I cant see why this should be any different for sports

 

[nikicb]

It actually looks like he deliberately ran the horse out, so he could then punish it. He rode into a a flag as far as I can tell. Presumably 'teaching' the horse that running out will bring the wrath of hell onto your head. Just horrific.

Agreed - there was no way his approach line would have taken him to the fence itself. It wasn't like the horse ducked out at the last second.

and so she should have been, but possibly because the complaint was lodged by an involved party - knew dates, times etc, this one - we dont know whom the horse is, where or when, and the poor mite is possibly owned by the abusive **** ?

But presumably the person who took the video would have that information, and generally whatever was used to video (I am guessing a phone), would have location/time/date etc. stored.


I think the sporting bodies need to realise that the more they try and keep all this stuff hushed up, the more their reputations will be tarnished when this all comes out in the open.

 

[eahotson]

It actually looks like he deliberately ran the horse out, so he could then punish it. He rode into a a flag as far as I can tell. Presumably 'teaching' the horse that running out will bring the wrath of hell onto your head. Just horrific.

Another way of doing this that I have heard of is to set up a double with the wrong distance for the horse. The horse has to stop or run out .You then batter it.

 

[eahotson]

I'm sorry but in so many ways this is a feature, not a glitch. I know most won't see it that way but we need wholesale change to reduce these sorts of incidents to near zero, there is a whole lot more to come I'm sure.

Sadly I think you are correct.

 

[teapot]

USEF has a code of conduct which could be used in this situation, with references to grounds for action too.

It’s just getting them to implement it…

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

Perhaps it needs something like the teaching regulation agency or children's barred list where certain individuals can be barred from teaching and or working with children

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

If it was me in the video and I denied it, work would suspend me while it was investigated. I cant see why this should be any different for sports

Probably because the sports bodies don't employ these people., rather they rely on them to pay for membership
.

 

[equinerebel]

The fish rots from the head and all that ........

 

[Fransurrey]

The whip marks in the photos on other posts are horrendous.

There is also a photo of a stirrup after he's ridden, with blood on it...

 

[daffy44]

This is just disgusting, whats wrong with people? Of course I dont wish any more harm on any more poor horses, but I do want more of these situations to be made public, because the governing bodies have to act, and do so much better than they currently are, its not good enough, people cant keep hiding their heads in the sand.

 

[eahotson]

Have watched the olympics.Lots of horse patting in front of the audiences which at times felt very contrived.I think the horse sporting bodies are just hoping that all the fuss will die down and it will be business as usual.I am one of the ones that want horse sports to continue but if it is change HAS to happen.

 

[Wishfilly]

It actually looks like he deliberately ran the horse out, so he could then punish it. He rode into a a flag as far as I can tell. Presumably 'teaching' the horse that running out will bring the wrath of hell onto your head. Just horrific.

Yes, this is what it looked like to me as well, either that or his line was truly terrible- the whole thing is awful.

 

[Fjord]

It's sickening, just awful.

 

[Boots*McGruber]

That poor horse, it must have been so confused and scared. What a vile individual the rider is.

 

[littleshetland]

Man with a very small appendage (similar in size to his brain I expect) trying to make himself look BIG. I wish someone would punch him in the head....

 

[teapot]

USEF has a code of conduct which could be used in this situation, with references to grounds for action too.

It’s just getting them to implement it…

Well scrap that, US Eventing saying it’s not under USEF jurisdiction because it didn’t happen at a competition.

 

[ramsaybailey]

Well scrap that, US Eventing saying it’s not under USEF jurisdiction because it didn’t happen at a competition.

Just saw this post too!

And the FEI knew about it before he went to Burghley?!

 

[irishdraft]

It's incomprehensible the attitude US Eventing and the FEI have taken over this, lots of comments on chronicle of the horse from people who had horses with this idiot and removed them so had been going on for years. All very depressing really.

 

[myheartinahoofbeat]

Maybe I’m a bit naive but that has really shocked me, I just don’t know what to say. How can someone who presumably likes these beautiful animals because he’s made a career with them, treat them like that????How disgusting . I’d like to smack him round the head.

I hope the person who was videoing intervened straight away

 

[ester]

Well scrap that, US Eventing saying it’s not under USEF jurisdiction because it didn’t happen at a competition.

So how did they suspend parra for dressage?