Another fatal dog attack

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Screaming mum tried to protect baby as unmuzzled XL Bully lunged at pram

Metropolitan Police said the dog, thought to be an XL Bully, was not on the lead and was not wearing a muzzle at the time of the attack in Battersea, southwest London
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That sounds terrifying. It must be awful to be too scared to leave your house because of illegal dogs.

Owner of dog that mauled girl to death is now helping send XL Bullys across UK

Lee Wright, from Blackburn, has been found on social media to be sending XL Bullys north to Scotland, 14 years after his pet Snoop mauled 11-month-old Ava-Jayne Corles to death
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Another decent chap. NOT.
 
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It does make you wonder what goes though people's minds. Does anyone seriously think that a government that's struggling to keep the NHS afloat and get police out to burglaries is going to take time and resources to "persecute their furbabies" for the fun of it? Do these people not have access to any form of media to see how many people have been injured and killed by XL bullies? Does it not cross their minds to take precautions when it comes to their kids and elderly/vulnerable relatives? Better safe than sorry after all, even if Fluffykins or Psycho "wouldn't hurt a fly".
I don't live in the UK, so don't really have a stake in the game. But death by dog must be one of the worst ways to go. And the prison sentence for the death of that little girl years ago seems very small. 18 weeks and a 5 year ban on owning dogs? That guy doesn't seem overly cut up that his previous dog killed a baby. It should at the very least be a lifetime ban on owning or working with dogs for any owner/handler whose dog kills someone.
 
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The new regulations will make no difference to the attacks that happen in the home. Why would you leave a child and his gran in charge of 2 XL bullies who are quite likely to be protective of their puppies , which is understandable if someone is sticking a broom in with them… when will these people realise that this type of dog can be dangerous and they are not fur babies ( I even hate typing that stupid word )
 
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I can't find it now and it's not a fatal attack - YET - but yesterday a story popped up on facebook about a woman in England who had rescued an XL in order to give it a better life. Turns out it was pregnant and has delivered nine pups. She has a 'go fund me' page to support the extra expense. She claims she is going to keep them all! If ever there's a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, that's it.
 
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gunnergundog said:
I can't find it now and it's not a fatal attack - YET - but yesterday a story popped up on facebook about a woman in England who had rescued an XL in order to give it a better life. Turns out it was pregnant and has delivered nine pups. She has a 'go fund me' page to support the extra expense. She claims she is going to keep them all! If ever there's a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, that's it.
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If the dog was a rescue, she should have been spayed from the get go, which would have solved the issue. Nine puppies is one thing. Nine large teenage dogs is another. The owner should have had the pregnancy terminated the minute it was discovered as it would have already been known that XL bullies were about to be banned rather than asking the public to fund these "cute" puppies.
 
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It should be mandatory for these dogs to be spayed now. I'm assuming it's also illegal to import them I haven't ready the legislation tbh been too busy with other things. If that was the case then hopefully these dogs as a breed would then be removed naturally from the country rather than a mass PTS if that became the solution to all of this.

Also the woman with the puppies is at it I think. Wouldn't be a stretch to imagine this was a planned litter.

I do feel sorry for the responsible owners of these dogs, those that keep them correctly and train them correctly etc but the amount of idiots owning dogs these days far outnumbers the good owners.
 
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Titchy Pony said:
If the dog was a rescue, she should have been spayed from the get go, which would have solved the issue. Nine puppies is one thing. Nine large teenage dogs is another. The owner should have had the pregnancy terminated the minute it was discovered as it would have already been known that XL bullies were about to be banned rather than asking the public to fund these "cute" puppies.
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I don't think it was a rescue as such, but even so pregnancy should have been terminated - if too far along then the pups should have been PTS at birth, but no they would rather set up a go fund page
and idiots will give. I would not want to be around that house:eek:
 
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Cinnamontoast said:
Have the dogs been abandoned? And hopefully seized?
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And hopefully PTS
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Screaming mum tried to protect baby as unmuzzled XL Bully lunged at pram

Metropolitan Police said the dog, thought to be an XL Bully, was not on the lead and was not wearing a muzzle at the time of the attack in Battersea, southwest London
www.mirror.co.uk

That sounds terrifying. It must be awful to be too scared to leave your house because of illegal dogs.

Owner of dog that mauled girl to death is now helping send XL Bullys across UK

Lee Wright, from Blackburn, has been found on social media to be sending XL Bullys north to Scotland, 14 years after his pet Snoop mauled 11-month-old Ava-Jayne Corles to death
www.mirror.co.uk

Another decent chap. NOT.
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These are the sort of people - I use that term loosely - we need a death penalty for....
 
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Smitty said:

Screaming mum tried to protect baby as unmuzzled XL Bully lunged at pram

Metropolitan Police said the dog, thought to be an XL Bully, was not on the lead and was not wearing a muzzle at the time of the attack in Battersea, southwest London
www.mirror.co.uk

That sounds terrifying. It must be awful to be too scared to leave your house because of illegal dogs.

Owner of dog that mauled girl to death is now helping send XL Bullys across UK

Lee Wright, from Blackburn, has been found on social media to be sending XL Bullys north to Scotland, 14 years after his pet Snoop mauled 11-month-old Ava-Jayne Corles to death
www.mirror.co.uk

Another decent chap. NOT.
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Dear God, that must have been absolutely terrifying for the woman. :(
 
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I honestly dont think this ban is going to work. People are just ignoring it and carrying on as normal and attacks are still happening. 518 comments on the surprise puppy post and I saw 2 saying these dogs could kill people, and hundreds saying I will have one, these dogs are fine, its just bad owners, poor puppies blah blah blah. People are so, so, so, so, so stupid I'm actually a bit taken aback.
 
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I'm Dun said:
I honestly dont think this ban is going to work. People are just ignoring it and carrying on as normal and attacks are still happening. 518 comments on the surprise puppy post and I saw 2 saying these dogs could kill people, and hundreds saying I will have one, these dogs are fine, its just bad owners, poor puppies blah blah blah. People are so, so, so, so, so stupid I'm actually a bit taken aback.
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Honestly though, truly, surely most people have always known that the XL Bully was always just a Pit Bull renamed to avoid the original dangerous Dogs Act? That has been an open secret for years, or so I understand. That law certainly didn't work and this one won't either...People are really stupid :(

ETA: apologies, poorly worded - I know that technically the XL Bully and PitBull are different but the Bully was an intentional development of the Pit Bull and careful marketing of the same in the UK meant that those who wanted them either felt safer or were reassured that their dogs would not be impounded under the DDA. I have read enough about the aggressive traits of the XL Bully to understand that key, and very dangerous genetic material was deliberately used from Pitbulls in the development of the XL Bully.
 
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Cortez said:
Considering that pitbulls are rarely in the news these days, I wouldn't exactly say that the legisation restricting them hasn't worked.
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I know what you mean but the XLBs were just a "replacement" for pitbulls. I do think we need legislation and BSL but also very very tight enforcement with significant fines and prison time for anyone caught breaking the law. Also I wonder why children are kept with these animals. It is a safeguarding issue. If I see a child at work with a dog bite (other than a "nip" from an annoyed family pet) I do a SS referal. If the bite has broken the skin and caused bleeding I always report it. SS will visit and parents/grandparents are often spooked enough by this to get rid of the dog. If the dog turns out to be a banned breed then it is another way of tracking these people down. If I knew a child was living with one, even a "lovely" one I'd be concerned enough to consider reporting outside of work.
 
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Cortez said:
Considering that pitbulls are rarely in the news these days, I wouldn't exactly say that the legisation restricting them hasn't worked.
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Well...If they are now XLBullies, then I would disagree. The initial addition of American bull dog to Pit Bull breeding not only used a legal loop hole of breed specific legislation but also offered a genuine alternative to the banned breed. One morphed into the other as a result of the DDA. So, yes, not so many Pitbulls but something bigger and more aggressive as a direct replacement but with at least a dose of Pit Bull genetic material.
 
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Cortez said:
Yep, the problem would seem to be a complete lack of effective enforcement.
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Well, early enforcement yes, but once the breed had morphed and there were sufficient number of XL bullies, no enforcement possible. This could and probably will happen again now...with goodness knows what injection of another breed's blood. Anatolian shepherd maybe? Akita? Anything would work as a get -round.
 
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