conniegirl
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It will take time for the number to diminish to the point the threat is lessened
Another fatal dog attack
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Cortez
Tough but Fair
It'll only work if it's enforced.
Goldenstar
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There’s never been a law that’s never broken
Snowfilly
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Girl seriously hurt in suspected XL Bully attack
The girl was taken to the Royal Cornwall Hospital with serious but not life-threatening injuries.www.bbc.co.uk
That’s near to me. There’s a fair few XLs there, I got a bit jumpy the last time I walked down Falmouth High Street as I counted four of them, all off lead albeit pre ban.
There was a small dog killed there shortly before Christmas by one.
We all know who has them and why and the police aren’t particularly interested in their main source of income either so the dogs are well down the list!
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
It's really depressing that basically, in the main, these types of dogs were created for and by a certain part of society, involved in certain practices, and well-meaning people, who don't know, because they couldn't countenance a link between illegality and cute fur babies or who don't want to think about it, or who think that you can 'love' genetics out of a dog, are bringing them into their homes, thinking they are doing a good thing, and risk getting injured or killed. This is a modern phenomenon and absolutely not the same as a breed that was historically used for fighting, bear or bull baiting but has been adapted for pet use over many, many generations with most of the worst of those drives and traits bred out.
Goldenstar
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Spot on .
SilverLinings
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It would be interesting to know whether the dog was off lead and un-muzzled/in a poorly fitting muzzle (and therefore proving the need for the restrictions) or if it was muzzled and on a lead (and therefore strong enough to escape both). Either way I hope that the child recovers without any long term injuries or visible scaring.Girl seriously hurt in suspected XL Bully attack
The girl was taken to the Royal Cornwall Hospital with serious but not life-threatening injuries.www.bbc.co.uk
Brighton: Two XL bullies seized after dog killed in attack
Police are seeking an order to destroy two XL bullies after a dog was killed and its owner injured.www.bbc.co.uk
I wish there was a strong penalty for owners of dog who kill or seriously injure other dogs (or cats/horses/livestock/etc). Aside from the fact it is seriously anti social behaviour, the dog is demonstrating a propensity for aggression, and the press has reported that quite a few of the serious attacks on humans by XLBs have been by dogs that have previously attacked other dogs.
It lets owners get away with not training their dogs, allowing poor/aggressive behaviour, and taking no responsibility for the harm they cause.
SilverLinings
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I think one of the most irresponsible types of XLB (and some other impressive breeds like GSDs, rotties, dobes etc) owner is the one who knows they are dogs bred by drug dealers/violent criminals to be aggressive, and wants one because it attracts attention and they think they will have no trouble controlling it. I have a female relative like this; fortunately she doesn't currently have a dog (yet) but she used to want a massive European guardian breed, she thinks the XLB ban is wrong ('it's just bad owners') and now she says she wants an Akita. She has limited experience of dogs (definitely a case of 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing') and is someone rather drawn to drama and I think she wants a dog like this for the attention she will get her as a 5'2" young female with a massive, 'hard' looking dog
It will be interesting to see whether the next fashionable 'dangerous' breed is a breed that already exists for guarding/hunting or is another manufactured drug dealers'/criminals' breed. I suspect it will be quicker to switch to an already existing breed, but that over time another mutant cross-breed type will be developed.
MissTyc
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Brighton: Two XL bullies seized after dog killed in attack
Police are seeking an order to destroy two XL bullies after a dog was killed and its owner injured.www.bbc.co.uk
This one is not far from me
The XLs' owner has given permission for them to be put down right away. It doesn't bring back the little poo-dog who was only out for an on-lead walk on the roads. More generally, I suppose we might start seeing how they deal with the XL owners in these cases? While some attacks have been within the home, many have been in public areas with non-compliant dogs.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Near my brother too.This one is not far from me
More generally, I suppose we might start seeing how they deal with the XL owners in these cases? While some attacks have been within the home, many have been in public areas with non-compliant dogs.
Had to have strong words with my niece (his daughter) the other day about XL’s. A classmate has one and I told her in no uncertain terms that she was not to go to the house under any circumstances (she’s 8, so doesn’t quite understand dangerous dogs yet).
Smitty
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Lets hope she's not put under pressure to by the owners who may be of the "Don't bully our bullies" brigade and insist that their dog is perfectly safe and it's the way they are raised
AmyMay
Situation normal
To be fair, there’s no reason why she should go there, my brother certainly wouldn’t allow it. But she adores dogs and I just needed to put her straight on a few things - sadly to the point of upsetting her a little. And you never know….Lets hope she's not put under pressure to by the owners who may be of the "Don't bully our bullies" brigade and insist that their dog is perfectly safe and it's the way they are raised
GSD Woman
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If the ban works. In a county in Maryland pit bulls were banned. The wrong sorts either kept their dogs or changed to breeds like Filas and Presos.
I also looked up XL bullies. The websites all went on about how gentle they are and only attack to protect their families. I wanted to vomit.
rara007
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Deadly dog fighting ring run by 'Doctor Death' and his gang from suburban garage
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT Self-styled 'Doctor Death' Phillip Ali ran a barbaric international contest ring where thousands of pounds could be won as the animals were ripped apart in Essex
www.mirror.co.uk
Possibly a bit of a tangent…
Smitty
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Sickening reading, but I expect it's just the tip of the iceberg.
skinnydipper
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Dog which bit woman in Blackpool suspected to be XL bully, police say
A man is held on suspicion of having a dog dangerously out of control after an attack in Blackpool.
www.bbc.co.uk
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
What a nice owner,at least the dog has been taken away from him, PTS would be better than being battered
skinnydipper
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Police confirmed not a banned breed
www.birminghammail.co.uk
Toddler seriously hurt after dog attack in her home
The girl, aged under two, was bitten by a 'large' dog, Gloucestershire Police have confirmed
SilverLinings
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And sadly there will be people who are aware of stories like this (where a small child is injured at home by the family's dog, although the exact circumstances haven't been reported) and will still think it's a good idea to pose photos of their massive, unhappy looking dogs 'cuddling', 'babysitting' or 'playing with their baby/toddler.Police confirmed not a banned breed
Toddler seriously hurt after dog attack in her home
The girl, aged under two, was bitten by a 'large' dog, Gloucestershire Police have confirmed
When I started this thread just over a year ago I never thought it would go on so long, particularly once the XLB restrictions were announced. It is sad and alarming that attacks are still frequent enough to keep this thread alive; hopefully the XLB 'ban' and some well-publicised convictions will start to have a positive impact soon.
I didn't think the ban would singlehandedly stop all serious dog attacks, but I am horrified that the huge amount of press over the last year+ hasn't woken more people up to the responsibilities and risks of dog ownership, and prompted them to do better.
Smitty
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I'm not terribly sure a proportion of people have that much sense.
I'm Dun
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XL bully being given away on the local FB selling page. Clearly states the dog is an XL. 14 comments all encouraging them to rehome. I absolutely despair of everything today.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Have you reported it?
I'm Dun
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theyve posted anonymously and admin have got post approval on, so unlikely to take it down if I do. If there had been a name I'd have logged it online with the local police, but I suspect they knew that people might do that.
AmyMay
Situation normal
You can still report it.
SilverLinings
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Has anyone commented pointing out it's illegal? Or can those sorts of posts get taken down so you wouldn't know (I don't know how Facebook works)? It would be a risk for someone taking the dog on, they'd have to get on very well with all their neighbours to be sure no one reports them.
Presumably if the current owner has registered the dog for exemption then the ownership details can't be transferred so the new owner will be breaking the law. Does anyone know what happens if you try to exempt an adult XLB now? If the last owner didn't exempt the dog and the new one tries to surely it will raise some sort of red flag with the authorities?
I'm Dun
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I did yes, but they didnt publish my comment. All the other comments were suggestions of how to rehome the dog.
What would be the point in reporting it? Its an anonymous post on a FB group. The police don't come out for crimes here unless someone is half dead so I cant imagine they are going to go chasing after an anonymous post on FB. Theres plenty of people still walking XL bullies unmuzzled around Oxford that nothing is done about.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
How was the poster proposing contact for rehoming if they were anonymous?
Smitty
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Poing
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Clodagh
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I’m not sure I’d want them knowing my details, if I was to report them.Express an interest and they contact you? I don't think logic needs applying here