turkana
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I saw that, glad I'm not the only one who didn't think it was cute.
Another fatal dog attack
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Errin Paddywack
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My friend with the TMs is always ultra careful who is allowed to approach them. The older one loves everyone but the young one is wary of people without dogs and does not like children so is never allowed off lead if there are kids about.
Widgeon
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A couple of links popped up today - an article in the Guardian about XL bullies and a link through to a very interesting website / campaign suggesting a (plausible, to my admittedly non-expert ears) genetic component to some of these dog attacks. All worth a read if you're interested.
bullywatch.link
www.theguardian.com
Finding Kimbo
At Bully Watch, we began delving into the pedigrees—essentially, the family trees—of dogs from the most well-known Bully XL kennels across the UK. Our investigation steered us down a trail where on…
bullywatch.link
Perfect pets or dangerous dogs? The sudden, surprising rise of American bully XLs
Of the 10 fatal dog attacks in the UK last year, more than half involved a bully XL. But plenty of British owners love the breed. Should it be better regulated – or outright banned?
DabDab
Ah mud, splendid
Wow, that is really interesting, thanks for posting
Moobli
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I was exactly the same
CorvusCorax
Justified & Ancient
**shouts into bucket**
Pretty much everything is genetics
**sobs**
Pretty much everything is genetics
**sobs**
skinnydipper
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I wouldn't want to meet one of these dogs when it is having a bad day.
Whether accountant, scaffolder or whatever IMO what these owners have in common is that they are all attention seeking losers that nobody would look twice at if they didn't have one of those brutes at the end of a lead.
Whether accountant, scaffolder or whatever IMO what these owners have in common is that they are all attention seeking losers that nobody would look twice at if they didn't have one of those brutes at the end of a lead.
Moobli
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My male is generally approachable and will accept fuss off strangers and he especially loves kids. I took him for months as a puppy to collect my son from primary school and was always careful to allow calm and positive interactions. He is a much calmer character than my female (genetics). When I tried taking her as a pup to the school she was far noisier and bouncier so I abandoned that route of socialisation.
She is social as an adult but is noisy and very excitable so I just say she’s not friendly to strangers as it’s just black/white for people then. It’s ideal when I’m walking with my friend as her GSDs are well used to people and so she blocks my dog with hers and lets people stroke and fuss her dogs instead which seems to help immensely.
She is social as an adult but is noisy and very excitable so I just say she’s not friendly to strangers as it’s just black/white for people then. It’s ideal when I’m walking with my friend as her GSDs are well used to people and so she blocks my dog with hers and lets people stroke and fuss her dogs instead which seems to help immensely.
Titchy Pony
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Thank you for the links, very interesting.A couple of links popped up today - an article in the Guardian about XL bullies and a link through to a very interesting website / campaign suggesting a (plausible, to my admittedly non-expert ears) genetic component to some of these dog attacks. All worth a read if you're interested.
Finding Kimbo
At Bully Watch, we began delving into the pedigrees—essentially, the family trees—of dogs from the most well-known Bully XL kennels across the UK. Our investigation steered us down a trail where on…
Perfect pets or dangerous dogs? The sudden, surprising rise of American bully XLs
Of the 10 fatal dog attacks in the UK last year, more than half involved a bully XL. But plenty of British owners love the breed. Should it be better regulated – or outright banned?
I suppose the issue with "deed not breed" is that you have to wait for the deed, by which time someone may very well be dead. It sounds like it's time to at least take a proper look at breeding if not the breed itself.
As an aside, I once knew a horse who was the last remaining descendant of her sire, all the others had been put down due to massive behavioural issues. So "bad genes" can crop up in any species.
twiggy2
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Its so frustrating that people don't get that.
A genetically poor dog is what it is and cannot be changed, you can make the best of it but genetic floors do not go away, a genetically good dog can be royally messed up though.
Clodagh
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There’s a roofer that comes into the pub. He was chatting g yesterday and saying another man on site has a ‘bully thing’. It’s muzzled as it has attacked a few dogs and tied up to the scaffold. It barks all the time so they have to throw slates at it to try to shut it up. I did have to break my ‘don’t engage with flipwits’ while at work rule.
MurphysMinder
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Jeez there's is some fair inbreeding going on there. I can't get over the £10k stud fee for Marshall, wonder what the pups sell for .
SaddlePsych'D
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Another example of why 'it's the owner not the breed' isn't particularly reassuring to me!
DirectorFury
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<cough> money laundering <cough>
marmalade76
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The deed not breed thing needs to go out the window. 6 of the ten fatal dog attacks last year were down to American Bulldogs or XL Bullies, considering these dogs are a small minority of the total dog population in this country, when are the dipsticks who trot out this line going to wake up?
Moobli
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The problem is though that the people who currently own these type of dogs for spurious reasons will simply choose another large, powerful and intimidating breed.
CorvusCorax
Justified & Ancient
If the blunt instrument of breed bans worked, we wouldn't be having this conversation 35 pages later.
Or indeed 35 years.
Or indeed 35 years.
Indy
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A lady in Askern has just been attacked by a loose dog. She was walking down the A19 with her dog and a child in a pushchair when the dog attacked her. A lorry driver stopped and managed to pull it off her but it's made a right mess of her arm. Air ambulance has left and armed police had the dog under control. Hope she's going to be alright.
Edit, I didn't see the dog because it was surrounded by police but it's been reported to be a Bull breed. The lade is in a serious condition.
Edit, I didn't see the dog because it was surrounded by police but it's been reported to be a Bull breed. The lade is in a serious condition.
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Cortez
Tough but Fair
I think that would depend on how any legislation is administered, or not.
Errin Paddywack
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This is the problem with so much legislation, rules are there but only sporadically enforced. It seems many police forces just brush dog attacks on other dogs under the carpet as not serious. Makes my blood boil.
asmp
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And another attack 
Bognor Regis dog attack: Man in 70s seriously injured
The dogs, believed to be Rottweilers, have been shot dead by Sussex Police firearms officers.
www.bbc.co.uk
Keith_Beef
Novice equestrian, accomplished equichetrian
Another non-fatal attack was reported on the wireless this afternoon.
www.bbc.com
Doncaster dog attack leaves woman seriously injured
A 28-year-old mother was pushing a pram when a dog approached in Doncaster, police say.
www.bbc.com
Smitty
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No doubt the police will be villified for killing the two fur babiesAnd another attack
Bognor Regis dog attack: Man in 70s seriously injured
The dogs, believed to be Rottweilers, have been shot dead by Sussex Police firearms officers.www.bbc.co.uk
. Poor man, how awful for him.
Smitty
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Another non-fatal attack was reported on the wireless this afternoon.
Doncaster dog attack leaves woman seriously injured
A 28-year-old mother was pushing a pram when a dog approached in Doncaster, police say.
Poor lady and her dog. Hope very much the seized beast is PTS and owner prosecuted for having a dog dangerously out of control.
And what is it with these owners, why the hell do their dogs get out all the time?
Indy
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If it wasn't for the lorry driver who pulled the dog off it would have been much worse.
Clodagh
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It’s such a dry report, but imagine her terror for her dog and her baby as well as herself.
Why do people want to own dogs that want to do this? Incomprehensible.
Why do people want to own dogs that want to do this? Incomprehensible.
Indy
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Best thing is, the relations to the dog owner are blaming her because Toby, who was on a lead looked at the other dog and then she had the audacity to try and protect the little girl and Toby, apparently it was a 'typical accident'
Clodagh
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Well of course, happens all the time while I’m walking my labs.
Smitty
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Why is it always the victims fault? I don't get it. These people are in total denial.
BBP
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I spoke to local XL bully x Cane Corso owner today, chatting about my dog being reactive and how he needs space from other dogs. His suggestion was to let mine meet his up close as he was sure they would be just fine if they were off lead and could interact properly….
Um, thanks for the offer but no thanks. I keep my dog reactive collie on a lead and away from other dogs for a reason. I’m not sure sticking him in the face of a XL bully that has just had puppies and her buddy would create the happy peaceful playful scene he envisions. (His dogs haven’t done anything wrong, mine is the one that would kick off, but the mindset of just letting them free to sort it out is what scares me, whether he would feel the need to recall them if he saw me coming)
Um, thanks for the offer but no thanks. I keep my dog reactive collie on a lead and away from other dogs for a reason. I’m not sure sticking him in the face of a XL bully that has just had puppies and her buddy would create the happy peaceful playful scene he envisions. (His dogs haven’t done anything wrong, mine is the one that would kick off, but the mindset of just letting them free to sort it out is what scares me, whether he would feel the need to recall them if he saw me coming)