Boggle- USA bound!

[Pinkvboots]

I've had problems with Louis and his yearly vaccine he has quite a bad reaction to alot of them, the injection site swells and depending on where that is he can't move and walk properly for about 24 hours, I have to bute him before and after now and he never has flu and tetanus together now.

The worst reaction he had was his chest swelled the size of a melon and it took about 9 months to completely go down, he now has a patch of white hair where the lump was and it still doesn't feel the same as the other side.

 

[JGC]

The mare in my avatar had a really awful flu reaction one year (might have been 2020) and couldn't move her neck at all (we had to hay her at exactly head height) and it's true she was moving in a way that could be described as ataxic, as she couldn't balance with her neck and possibily the swelling had put pressure on the nerves in her neck, but as it came on immediately we knew it was the vaccine.

 

[scats]

Got everything crossed for you and Bog xx

 

[poacher82]

Oh no! I only checked back in yesterday and was delighted to read Bog was back to hacking and contemplating a jump! Michen, you sure are being put through the emotional ringer. You mustn't blame yourself though - horses are really only a couple of steps above sheep in terms of survival skills. Sending enormous amounts of luck and good vibes from the New Forest.

 

[Surbie]

Crap - hope Boggle continues to improve and you get to the bottom of this. So unfair when he was just coming back into work and looked amazing.

Mine had a reaction to the flu & tet jab one year and ended up with a nasty chest abcess that had to be drained a few times before it healed. He was very sorry for himself.

Got everything crossed for you. x

 

[Michen]

I feel like it must be his neck and if it is we don’t really have anywhere else to go, given it was medicated a couple of weeks ago

Anyway I’m just swinging one way to another atm. If the neuro diseases come back negative today we will X ray everything.

 

[southerncomfort]

I was about to say try not to speculate and wait for test results, however as someone who has just had some abnormal test results I have been frantically googling and imagining all sorts of doom and gloom outcomes, so I'm in no position to offer that advice!

All I can say is I hope the results come through quickly and that you have some answers very soon.

 

[Michen]

I was about to say try not to speculate and wait for test results, however as someone who has just had some abnormal test results I have been frantically googling and imagining all sorts of doom and gloom outcomes, so I'm in no position to offer that advice!

All I can say is I hope the results come through quickly and that you have some answers very soon.

Oh no I am sorry . Thank you, I hope you do too.

 

[Pinkvboots]

I remember once they jabbed Louis in his neck and after a few hours it was like he was paralysed he couldn't move it to eat or drink, I knew something was wrong he was just stood in the field like a statue I struggled to get him back to his stable, it frightened the life out of me it was horrible to see him like that.

 

[splashgirl45]

Good luck Michen, hope this proves easy to solve… poor Boggle and poor you again xx

 

[gunnergundog]

Jesus wept! You weren't at the front of the queue when luck was dealt out were you? Fingers crossed.

 

[teapot]

Only just seen this - fingers and toes crossed for him and you!

If there anything that could have bitten him where you are - snake, spider etc? Friend's horse last year suddenly could barely stand up and if she touched his quarters he wanted to sit down. They eventually put the cause down to something biting him as while he's a stiff old sod, he'd never done anything like that before, nor had ever before or since suffered from ataxia either.

 

[meesha]

Omg!! U couldn't make it up!! Bloody horses are enough to give us heart failure !!

Hoping Boggle appreciates you and your dwindling bank account. If there is a fix u will find it. Come on Boggle !!

I lost one horse in April and Baggins is currently recovering from a virus involving emergency vet callouts.... I have covid in sympathy... ahh the joy of horse ownership!!

 

[Michen]

He's comfortable and happy and eating this morning. They said he does seem stiff in his neck, I think its trending towards something having happened there. He was rolling a lot the night before because he got sweaty when worked (I only clipped neck and under belly) and he hates being sweaty.

I think the neck being the cause is the worse outcome, TBH.

I did post on TE facebook and several people spoke of similar experiences where they never found the cause but it took a week or so and then the horse was normal again. Praying for a bloody miracle here.

 

[Michen]

Only just seen this - fingers and toes crossed for him and you!

If there anything that could have bitten him where you are - snake, spider etc? Friend's horse last year suddenly could barely stand up and if she touched his quarters he wanted to sit down. They eventually put the cause down to something biting him as while he's a stiff old sod, he'd never done anything like that before, nor had ever before or since suffered from ataxia either.

We don't really have rattlesnakes at the barn due to the elevation... but maybe a spider?

 

[splashgirl45]

We are all praying with you

 

[Michen]

That said, if there was a snake, I have NO doubt Boggle would have approached it and tried to boss it around. No doubt.

 

[onemoretime]

Hey guys. I almost didn't want to post this as it is just so unbelievable and I think I'm in a state of shock but I got a call this morning at 6.30 to say Bog was in distress. He collapsed, got up after ten mins. I got to the barn and took the partition out of the trailer to travel him loose incase he fell again and by 7.45 he was being admitted to hospital. All symptoms are neurological.

Current theories are West Nile disease, EPM or EHV. He's vaccinated against WN but apparently it's not always a total protector. Bloods will be back tomorrow.

Second theory is the neck, something tweaked or moved and it's impinging on the nerves/spinal cord etc. Feels unlikely given the location but a definite theory. We will radiograph again tomorrow if the bloods come back negative, they've been expedited.

I am completely distraught. I had them run my card for an initial 5k and told them to of course do anything, everything they can for him. Whatever you believe in or don't, please keep your fingers crossed for him. He does not deserve any of this.

I was so very sorry to read this on FB and thought it was Boggle. It is so unfair poor horse and poor you. Please look after yourself I. know how much stress this can put on ones self. x

 

[CanteringCarrot]

I just recalled something that I experienced a few years ago. A horse in the paddock next to mine had his head down and looked a bit odd. I had to walk through his paddock (they were attached to the stables) to get to the hay. Weird setup, but it worked with these horses. He was usually quite friendly and interested in me, but I could not get him to get his head up. It was totally bizarre.

I messaged his owner and sent her a quick video, and she came out later with the vet. He eventually acted normal within a few hours, and they never found anything. Last I knew (they moved eventually) he was still a functional dressage horse. Totally weirded us out though.

Maybe he slept wrong, rolled wrong, or even did something odd with his hay net box thing.

I hope for a similar outcome with Boggle, in that it just passes!

 

[Michen]

Wow my bill is 4.2k in 24 hours. That’s before the radiographs which are another 2.

 

[Red-1]

I confess, spider bite came to my mind too, and that would likely be a good outcome! Fingers and toes well crossed.

 

[Michen]

I’m slightly at the end of my tether with it. Have asked them to hold on radiographs and call me post neuro exam.

I suppose my question is, if the radiographs show anything- how is that going to Change the treatment if we’ve ruled out any sort of disease? We’ve already put steroid into the area.

I don’t want to skimp on the cost of his care but equally I’m trying to be realistic as to what it actually changes.

 

[Red-1]

I’m slightly at the end of my tether with it. Have asked them to hold on radiographs and call me post neuro exam.

I suppose my question is, if the radiographs show anything- how is that going to Change the treatment if we’ve ruled out any sort of disease? We’ve already put steroid into the area.

I don’t want to skimp on the cost of his care but equally I’m trying to be realistic as to what it actually changes.

I would do X rays for peace of mind. Inflammation can cause ataxia, but the spine could be fine and inflammation can go down.

 

[Michen]

I would do X rays for peace of mind. Inflammation can cause ataxia, but the spine could be fine and inflammation can go down.

I don’t know what it’s going to tell me though or change treatment wise? I’ll ask the vet but I highly doubt it’ll actually change the course of treatment if it is the neck aka anti inflammatories which he’s already on and hope.

 

[Honey08]

OMG your horse is as addicted to hospitals as my husband is!

Everything crossed here for him.

 

[Michen]

It’s not good everyone. Negative for diseases. Tiny neuro improvement.

Vet said she is extremely worried about him and I need to be prepared.

We are going to X ray but not holding much hope out.

 

[misst]

Oh bugger M I'm so upset for you. Xx will check in tomorrow xxx sending everything to you both xx

 

[LadyGascoyne]

Oh no Michen!!! I cannot believe I’m reading this.

I am sending you so much love, and love to Bog. Neither of you deserve this, this is just unbelievable.

 

[DressageCob]

I'm gutted to see this update. I hope the vet is just being cautious. Sending thoughts, prayers, vibes and everything else across the ocean.

 

[Kunoichi73]

So sorry to hear this Michen.