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No medical advice, but am sending huge hugs your way , and I hope all goes well today. It's a horrible thing to happen , but at least Mitch got back to you quickly so you could act asap. One of mine didn't come back one morning, and it took hours to find him as he was trapped in a hole and would never have been able to get out by himself. xxxx
 

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Hope everything goes well today. Accidents happen and I think that injury could have been done just crashing into anything- a tree/another dog?

My first dog of the day is a cocker I’ve been grooming since she was a pup. I haven’t seen her for 3 months because she had to have hardware in her leg after a bad break. Her owners were walking her off lead and she leapt over a wall and fell 15ft down the other side. Shes absolutely fine now, she just has a bionic leg, like her favourite groomer 😅
 

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Just seen this thread . I hope everything is going ok and you and your OH are bearing up .

These aren't often trauma in Springers, they tend to be Elbow dysplasia or IOHC that has subsequently fractured. Usually very repairable and dogs do well after.

I felt sick until read this post .
I will be thinking of you and Mitch .
 

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Oh poor Mitch, and poor you, and your OH @Cinnamontoast , what a shock it must've been for the two of you. One moment out on a nice dog walk, during your holiday if I understood a later reply correctly, next moment off to the nearest veterinarian you could find who was able to see you with short notice, with an injured dog which will require surgery to fix.

A freak accident is exactly that, and they can happen anywhere, anytime, and regardless if the dog is on the leash or not. I know of someone who had been outdoors together with others for some hours with her bitch, and during a break tied the bitch's leash to something. Suddenly the bitch flew up, came to a very abrupt stop when she reached the end of her leash, landed really awkwardly/unlucky on her back, and I don't remember exactly what she injured, only that it involved some type of skeletal damage, and that the bitch had to go to rehabilitation training which included hydrotherapy, for several months afterwards. Just a freak accident, which normally shouldn't have lead to a severe injury, but that day it did.

I hope the night, and morning have gone as well as possible with Mitch, and that today's surgery is uneventful.
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Sending positive healing vibes for Mitch - one of dad's springers barged into one of mine years ago and you would have thought she was being murdered, hopping on 3 legs. Vet visit and luckily it was just bruising but sadly these things do happen.

Be kind to yourself,
 

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Ah I haven’t seen Steff - I moved away from them after the debacle with Ace, my greyhound - but I know overall they are a great and very well respected practice ❤️

Not so many boar in that area then, but I understand why they suggested it as an option for sure.

Fingers are crossed for a quick recovery for Mitch
I am wondering where the nearest referral centre is round there if you don’t mind me asking, Lév. Ross is very dog friendly, everywhere says dogs welcome, found 3 vets quickly, one on Waldron (sp?) Street, another called something Barn? We’ve been lucky to have the RVC nearby for the horse, not so useful for the dogs. Don’t blame you moving practices, we did the same when they told us Bear had terminal cancer right after we’d had Zak pts for it. Turned out he had a blocked salivary gland. Don’t mind people making mistakes, but that was hard to take.
Hope that everything goes well for Mitch today, I feel for your wallet though.
£5K estimate (complications excluded!) He’s insured, just hope they don’t say it’s pre-existing given he has a previous referral that found nothing. We’ll have to pay regardless. He’s been taken to a different referral centre as the RVC were frankly not co-operative, so fleeting visit to our normal vet so he could be referred/get pain relief then straight to Davies up near Hitchin. Longer journey but very state of the art.
Ouch! I hope everything goes well today, Springers always find interesting and inconvenient ways to spend money at the vets.

You are well placed to utilise the RVC!
Yeah, shame they were frankly painful this morning, saying they had to talk to the Ross vet even though she spoke to them yesterday.
 

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Just seen this, hope all goes well today, if I am understanding the x-rays and comments correctly a friends spanner did the same when she was about 18 months old - decided she could go through the railings of their stair case rather than down the stairs and hit the stone floor below, she was operated on in Newmarket and made a very full recovery, is now a rather elderly lady with no sign of her past trauma, save a small lump on the elbow
 

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If it makes you feel any better CT my dog snapped her leg literally trotting across a fairly flat field towards me. She stumbled and it just snapped… healthy, young dog. So watching them or even controlling their speed doesn’t necessarily keep them safe!

Wish you both the best.
 

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The nearest referral centre is Bristol - Langfords - they do small and large animals (separate facilities) and work with the university, they have a good reputation.

There are two main vets in Ross - Chaseview and Vine Tree - opinion is split about which is best, they both have ardent fans!
Vine Tree’s phone message was just ‘We can’t transfer your call right now’ despite the press 1 for emergencies. I was not thrilled, obviously up a bit of a height given the circs! Bristol is quite far! Saying that, Hitchin is 40 minutes from us, so not close either.
Just seen this, hope all goes well today, if I am understanding the x-rays and comments correctly a friends spanner did the same when she was about 18 months old - decided she could go through the railings of their stair case rather than down the stairs and hit the stone floor below, she was operated on in Newmarket and made a very full recovery, is now a rather elderly lady with no sign of her past trauma, save a small lump on the elbow
That’s encouraging!

I should have said earlier, the surgeon said it’s likely a fissure that’s caused the break due to spaniels having a genetic issue with bones not fusing properly when little. I’ve read a bit about this. He suggests a CT scan on the other leg (and on Goose!) although he said he’d rarely seen the other go, it’s not the same as a cruciate going as we had with Jake, the second one going is often inevitable, hopefully not this.
 

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Vine Tree’s phone message was just ‘We can’t transfer your call right now’ despite the press 1 for emergencies. I was not thrilled, obviously up a bit of a height given the circs! Bristol is quite far! Saying that, Hitchin is 40 minutes from us, so not close either.

That’s encouraging!

I should have said earlier, the surgeon said it’s likely a fissure that’s caused the break due to spaniels having a genetic issue with bones not fusing properly when little. I’ve read a bit about this. He suggests a CT scan on the other leg (and on Goose!) although he said he’d rarely seen the other go, it’s not the same as a cruciate going as we had with Jake, the second one going is often inevitable, hopefully not this.
That fissure is the IOHC (incomplete ossification of the humeral condyle), part of ED that I mentioned above. It's a very repairable fracture usually with a good outcome. Start the arthritis supplements as soon as he's recovered!
 

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That fissure is the IOHC (incomplete ossification of the humeral condyle), part of ED that I mentioned above. It's a very repairable fracture usually with a good outcome. Start the arthritis supplements as soon as he's recovered!
Which ones do you recommend?

Unfortunately, there appears to be a fissure on the other leg in comparison x rays just taken, so that’ll need a screw in it too, obviously not just now.

Off to the usual vet in an hour for a suspect foreign body in his paw-the endless chewing issue. A mini abscess/hole popped just before we went away. The vet suggested surgical exploration.
 

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Sorry if I’ve missed it but is he having surgery today? Or is he having his paw looked at today?
Or both! 🤪
 

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Which ones do you recommend?

Unfortunately, there appears to be a fissure on the other leg in comparison x rays just taken, so that’ll need a screw in it too, obviously not just now.

Off to the usual vet in an hour for a suspect foreign body in his paw-the endless chewing issue. A mini abscess/hole popped just before we went away. The vet suggested surgical exploration.

My girl who broke her leg is on Yumove. Everyone else over 1yo is on a prorata dose of Equine Cortavet.

I feed frozen green lipped mussels to everyone 3-4 times a week.

Hope the surgery is straightforward and I would absolutely be getting his brother screened and letting the breeder know this is very likely a heritable issue.
 

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Hope the surgery is straightforward and I would absolutely be getting his brother screened and letting the breeder know this is very likely a heritable issue.
Sorry to read your news. Totally agree that you should notify the breeder, but do it when you are feeling 'strong' and be prepared for a possible hostile reception. No idea of your breeder, but just to say that years ago I had a pup that developed some issues. The breeder, although well established in another HPR breed, was a first timer in this one. I rang her, informed her and she was open to discussion but obviously not informed on this particular issue. I said that I was going to call the owner of the very prolific stud dog, which she supported. This individual at the time was someone well up in one of the breed clubs and successful in the show world. Let's just say that I received verbal death threats and assurances that I would never own another dog of that breed again! A lot of hot air, but not nice, none the less. I hope that things have moved on in the interim.
 

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Which ones do you recommend?

Unfortunately, there appears to be a fissure on the other leg in comparison x rays just taken, so that’ll need a screw in it too, obviously not just now.

Off to the usual vet in an hour for a suspect foreign body in his paw-the endless chewing issue. A mini abscess/hole popped just before we went away. The vet suggested surgical exploration.

Sorry to hear that he'll need a screw also on the other side at some point in the future. But at least there's something which can be done to help him.
{{{{{{Vibes}}}}}} for all Mitch's ailments.
{{{{{{Vibes}}}}}} to Goose hoping that his paw problem turns out to be as easily fixed as possible.
Extra {{{{{{Vibes}}}}}} for that all your dog's recoveries are uneventful, and straightforward.

(Edited to reflect that it's not only your dog Mitch which is having health problems. I suppose that's positive for him, but not fun for you that your other dog is also needing veterinary attention.)
 
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Sorry if I’ve missed it but is he having surgery today? Or is he having his paw looked at today?
Or both! 🤪
Goose is having exploration of a persistent issue on Monday, the hole in between toes reappeared-like a foreign body trying to come out, Druid mentioned AMS when he was constantly chewing the pads, but both parents are screened clear, I have the vet report, but there may be something in there irritating him.
My girl who broke her leg is on Yumove. Everyone else over 1yo is on a prorata dose of Equine Cortavet.

I feed frozen green lipped mussels to everyone 3-4 times a week.

Hope the surgery is straightforward and I would absolutely be getting his brother screened and letting the breeder know this is very likely a heritable issue.
Thanks, I’ll get both.

I will tell the breeder, it was their first litter, she said never again, it wasn’t planned!
 
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Goose is having exploration of a persistent issue on Monday, the hole in between toes reappeared-like a foreign body trying to come out, Druid mentioned AMS when he was constantly chewing the pads, but both parents are screened clear, I have the vet report, but there may be something in there irritating him.
sorry, I get my own dogs names mixed up, let alone other peoples! Good luck with it all.
 

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If it makes you feel any better CT my dog snapped her leg literally trotting across a fairly flat field towards me. She stumbled and it just snapped… healthy, young dog. So watching them or even controlling their speed doesn’t necessarily keep them safe!

A friend of a friends clumber spaniel did exactly the same thing.

They were on holiday and the dog broke its leg in an open field.
 
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