AmyMay
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Have H&H deleted all comments? I can’t see any at all on the Fb page.Words fail me. Another gem "non horse people think there's abuse when there isnt". Its on the HH FB page
Have H&H deleted all comments? I can’t see any at all on the Fb page.Words fail me. Another gem "non horse people think there's abuse when there isnt". Its on the HH FB page
Have H&H deleted all comments? I can’t see any at all on the Fb page.
Yes there is. Cancel culture is stopping something just because of what might happen as the result of something else. Being held accountable is what happens because of something else.Genuine question, what is the difference between 'cancel culture' and someone being held accountable for their actions? Where is the line between the two?
It’s not to me. I wouldn’t want to be on that woman’s wrong side. Though saying that I usually amEquisafety fb is baffling me
It's on the article about Sandra A
But why would she suddenly resort to this form of 'training'? If she's never used a whip in that way, why would she randomly think 'I know I'll get a lunge whip and keep hitting it's back end... that WILL make it do XY or Z'? Even I know that if a horse isn't doing what you want you don't just keep pushing it to do it- you think about why it can't and go back to what it can do confidently and then either stop for the day or try to rebuild from that point - in much smaller steps.Devil's advocate here for a moment, and in no way condoning the behaviour in that video.
This morning I was expecting a 'me-too' effect; more videos and stories specifically about CDJ or others. I haven't seen anything, apart from bits of anecdotal gossip ('I've heard she is hard on them', etc). Such further evidence may come to light over time. But for the moment, perhaps the lack of any other evidence might just mean that this is a one-off or at least has to be treated as such?
I have heard people saying that aspects of the video look like it's not the first time. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with this, just a little surprised not to have seen anything else, and we have to consider this when judging her whole training regime and whether this is, as she said, out of character.
Yes, teach the rider how to prepare the horse physically and mentally so that he can execute the movement without being bullied.Dog person not horse person here.
To me, what she is doing with that whip appears to be physical abuse.
Please could somebody explain to me what is the purpose and is there a kinder way to achieve the same objective.
Equisafety fb is baffling me
The woman that runs that business is a raving lunatic!! I wouldn't buy anything off them if they were the only place to stock it. So i am not at all surprised with what they've put.Equisafety fb is baffling me
But why would she suddenly resort to this form of 'training'? If she's never used a whip in that way, why would she randomly think 'I know I'll get a lunge whip and keep hitting it's back end... that WILL make it do XY or Z'? Even I know that if a horse isn't doing what you want you don't just keep pushing it to do it- you think about why it can't and go back to what it can do confidently and then either stop for the day or try to rebuild from that point - in much smaller steps.
Show me a time when they have behaved professionallyMe too they sounded like the were supporting her last night. Now they're saying she had a tantrum at them one time and refused to do a photoshoot?!?
Edit: either way they aren't coming across too professional
Dog person not horse person here.
To me, what she is doing with that whip appears to be physical abuse.
Please could somebody explain to me what is the purpose and is there a kinder way to achieve the same objective.
The rider was a child!I have just watched "The Video". Am shocked, appalled and sickened.
Twas a damn shame that lovely horse didn't kick her in the face.
This wasn't "tapping" the horse's legs, it was prolonged whipping - and as this was a short extract from a video we can presume perhaps that this had been going on for a considerable time. That poor horse. And what for pity's sake was the rider thinking of, to let this continue to happen? If someone did this to my horse then I'm damn sure I'd sit there and just let it happen! She is as culpable as Ms Dujardin.
I am deeply disturbed and saddened by this: along with everyone else I was hoping she'd do well for us again at the Olympics. But now I frankly hold nothing but disdain for anyone that could treat a horse in this way. There are absolutely no excuses whatsoever.
Appalling doesn't come anywhere near it.
This is a sad day for equestrianism. Look at the top comment on the daily mail and you’ll see that riding horses to ‘dance’ is being compared to circuses.I’ve spent today feeling really disheartened and depressed; the rot goes so deep. I’d already been moving much more to classical dressage in how I ride and the type of horses I’m riding but more than ever I think this is the only way I feel comfortable continuing to ride and train. Her influence and reach go so deep, it really feels like a catastrophic day for dressage.
I think the aim is to get the horse to lift it’s legs higher to achieve more exuberant and flashy looking movements. The way to achieve it is to work patiently through the scales of training without trying to force it through physical abuse and accept that that particular horse may not be capable of what is being asked at that point in time. But in my opinion, much of high level dressage is about physically forcing (lots of metal work in the mouth, tight nosebands and spurs).
Yes, teach the rider how to prepare the horse physically and mentally so that he can execute the movement without being bullied.
Well whoever filmed this debacle seemed to think it was amusing. I am hugely disappointed in her. This is just not acceptable. Poor horse looks very uncomfortable even without the whip. I find myself wondering what goes on when nobody is there if this is what happens with an audience. Awful.the DM has now got the bit between it's teeth (and the noseband is very tight!)
Inside the brutal world of dressage after Charlotte Dujardin scandal
British Olympian Charlotte Dujardin has withdrawn from Paris 2024 over a video from a coaching session showed her making 'an error of judgement' four years ago, in her words.www.dailymail.co.uk
I’ve spent today feeling really disheartened and depressed; the rot goes so deep. I’d already been moving much more to classical dressage in how I ride and the type of horses I’m riding but more than ever I think this is the only way I feel comfortable continuing to ride and train. Her influence and reach go so deep, it really feels like a catastrophic day for dressage.
Words fail me. Another gem "non horse people think there's abuse when there isnt". Its on the HH FB page