stormox
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CDJ withdrawn from paris
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Equi
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using a picture from an event already banned.Link to petition to stop equestrian sports at the Olympics, in case anyone hasn't yet seen it.
Ditchjumper2
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Thankyou Mrs J I appreciate that. It feels to me as if someone else is trying to stir the pot. I'm notThat's a bit rude and unnecessarily provocative. I think Ditchjumper2 has explained her post several times , and I found it very easy to understand where she was coming from and the intention behind her post. I think you are either just being deliberately rude or perhaps just deliberately obtuse?
Rowreach
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Because it's expensive and inconvenient to put on, it's niche and elitist, not that many countries can field teams (the standard is lower than other equestrian high performance competitions) and because more people watch it accidentally because they're surrounded by Olympic coverage, the animal welfare aspect was already to the fore.
sbloom
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Because the IOC can make that decision for every Olympics to come. It's the most publicly visible aspect of horse sport for those three disciplines, and we've seen them act on the Pentathlon. Getting the FEI to effectively cancel itself is WAY more unlikely. However it being ditched from the Olympics, the pinnacle of so many sports, would be a hard wake up call for the FEI.
equinerebel
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Then it’s not doing the same thing and therefore won’t make the same noise
TheresaW
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I kind of asked that question a few pages back and didn’t get an answer.
teapot
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Link to petition to stop equestrian sports at the Olympics, in case anyone hasn't yet seen it.
That’s the one from Tokyo post pentathalon drama.
I do wish people would check the dates of things before posting. Notice it only got so far numbers wise.
equinerebel
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The IOC are not an equestrian body. They don’t care particularly for equestrian sports and they’re becoming unpopular due to their expense, lack of diversity, and now, abuse.
The IOC can remove equestrian sports from their competition without it having anything to do with any other equestrian competition. I’m honestly surprised they hadn’t before this.
The IOC can remove equestrian sports from their competition without it having anything to do with any other equestrian competition. I’m honestly surprised they hadn’t before this.
Bruce17
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Have to say I'm a bit surprised to have just received an email from British Dressage about it 
tristars
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The IOC banning horse sports would save horses from having make long unnecessary journeys and competing in dubious climates, humidity , heat etc
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Are there any other Olympic sports where the competition is dropped down a level from the pinnacle of that sport to make it more accessible to more nations?
I’d be perfectly happy to see equestrian sports dropped from the Olympics, and the IOC only needed the slightest excuse to do just that.
I’d be perfectly happy to see equestrian sports dropped from the Olympics, and the IOC only needed the slightest excuse to do just that.
FieldOrnaments
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Thank you very much for that list.
Might be a couple of years out of date, but:-
Sponsored by: Roeckl, Flying Changes, Fairfax Saddles, Haygain, Sprenger, Fleck, Bloomfields HorseBoxes, Charles Owen, Saracen Horse Feeds, NAF, KBIS, Ridely, Le Mieux, Equine Lts, Jess Tog Photographer.
Must admit I am surprised. I thought sponsorship was for up and coming riders to give them a boost, whilst getting brands exposure at the same time, not for people who have already made it as it were.
teapot
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It’s only eventing though, from a safety point of view. The show jumping is at full height/width I think?
bonny
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Sponsors want exposure so the more high profile the athlete the better.
Supertrooper
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If the IOC did drop them would that be from the next Olympics?
Rowreach
Adjusting my sails
Not that I know of but there are restrictions in other sports about who can represent a country qualification-wise for safety reasons (Eddie the Eagle for instance). Equestrian was dumbed down for safety and inclusion reasons afaik.
Michen
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Wow, now SJ abuse is coming out. Austria rider. Headline in telegraph.
Nonjumper
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That's certainly what's happened for the Pentathlon I believe. But it might depend on how far the next host has gone towards building the equestrian facilities. If they've basically not done anything other than worked out where it would go, then it could be dropped immediately.
Michen
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New equestrian abuse scandal as Olympics rider accused of hitting horse with bar
Medal contender Max Kuehner accused by public prosecutor in Germany of hitting horse’s legs with a bar to make it jump higher
www.telegraph.co.uk
Pedantic
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The video isn't pretty, and I don't condone animal abuse, but, just like the "selective" policing and "selective" law and order enforcement we have in the UK, we now have,"selective" outrage by the media, how many of those outraged are happily sat eating their halal slaughtered KFC or Big Mac, or there halal slaughtered supermarket meat, did they check the label, yea, write the numbers on a postage stamp, a lot of people's "outrage" is disillusioned perception of all horse owner riders being rich toffs, with a silver spoon up our a***s, a lot of the outrage is a jealously class issue, and drivers of old BMW's who can't afford a new one, who were held up for 30 seconds on the road by a couple of riders.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Sorry, it was eventing that I was thinking of, in a thread about dressage
. A very expensive to put on 4* competition.
Rowreach
Adjusting my sails
Modern Pentathlon still has show jumping in Paris, it won't be included in 2028. These things usually take time.
equinerebel
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I’m a vegetarian, I don’t own a BMW of any age, I do own a horse. Does that mean I can be justifiably outraged?
Belmont
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I know at the start she says ‘this is so s*** at whipping them hard’ but I’ve just listened the the following dialogue more closely (and haven’t seen it noted anywhere?!)
Rider: I don’t want to hurt him
CDJ: Huh?
R: I don’t want to hurt him
CDJ: It cracks, it doesn’t actually whip them
So was it just cracking, and not whipping the horse?! In which case, has this been blown beyond what it is?
Bottom line is it’s still a horrendous video and she put the rider at risk, so punishment is deserved but maybe it’s lesson learnt and don’t do it again. I’m conflicted.
Rider: I don’t want to hurt him
CDJ: Huh?
R: I don’t want to hurt him
CDJ: It cracks, it doesn’t actually whip them
So was it just cracking, and not whipping the horse?! In which case, has this been blown beyond what it is?
Bottom line is it’s still a horrendous video and she put the rider at risk, so punishment is deserved but maybe it’s lesson learnt and don’t do it again. I’m conflicted.
teddy_
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I think you’re comparing apples with oranges here. Whilst it goes without saying - abuse occurs; the wider equestrian industry cannot be likened to animals in a circus, large marine animals in small tanks or large animals in captivity, in zoos.
The relationship between man and horse is ancient.
I don’t think baseless doom and gloom is helpful.
IrishMilo
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I'm glad this ridiculous nonsense was posted: it's been a great way of quickly culling those on my friends list who have liked it.
Michen
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The way the horse was reacting was not a "sound" reaction it was kicking out at what was clearly coming into contact with his legs.
Gloi
Too little time, too much to read.
What a fabulous horse
EternalVetBills
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Very sadly, my instructor whom I have used frequently since I was twelve, is a stage 3 BHS instructor, and I always thought was great campaigner for horse welfare, has shared and liked the post. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but she definitely will not be getting my business anymore.