Foods That Are Bad For Dogs

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It would be interesting to hear the staistics on how many dogs actualy die from bone related accidents, I bet its no where near as many as those who die from obesity from having 'processed' dogs food, or road accidents, or from getting wood stuck in their throats from catching sticks etc.

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Good for you, mine get table scraps to as a treat, usually chuck them in with the liquidised veg meal.

Here here! Trouble is processed pet food is HUGE business with a massive turnover and sadly it's unlikely that statistics like that would ever be allowed to surface. But I think you are spot on and I bet most of those having problems with bones are from cooked!

Trouble is feed companies sponsor a lot of research projects and animal health care professionals don't tend to want to rock the boat, or have had their entire nutritional input from a feed company nutritionalist. They are often horrified when you tell them you feed raw despite having just commented on how well the dog looks!

It's such a waste we throw all that lovely potential natural dog food into an incinerator to dispose of it as waste products!

It makes my teeth itch when the ads harp on about special food for the immune system, added antioxidants and teeth cleaning bone substitutes! Raw food does all that naturally!
 
Our dog raided Xmas pressies under tree the other year and devoured a Chocolate Orange(much to my son's dismay). Amazingly, he was fine. He also discovered a bag of chicken pieces that had accidentally been left in a beach bag for three weeks (after crabbing expedition) in baking hot summer. Again no ill effects. He also constantly scavenges rubbish in parks and eats it before I can get to him.
He obviously has a constitution that defies medical science. Is a miracle he's still here. Stupid dog!
 
Hello Maral, Welcome. You seem to have stepped into the lions' den here! This post is a bit like new mothers asking the older generation how to look after a baby. Everyone will have a different opinion - and they're all correct!
 
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* Rawhide Chewies (a lot of people don't know this one..these are bleached with chemicals and can be unsafe)


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Do you mean the ones that are sold as dog chews??
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You can feed dogs cheese as treats (ie. small amounts). Some dogs can't tolerate it - but you'd soon find out!

mine is fine on cheese.
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I've read stuff about grapes and it seems that not all dogs are affected - but becuase of the severe health dangers if they are affected by them - is best not to risk it.
 
Chocolate is very bad for our dogs as it is MY chocolate
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We feed our dogs raw and complete,but not at the same time.
they have raw in the morning and a handful of complete in the eve.
All our dogs are in good condition and reguarly compete and do flyball and athletic events.
Each to their own and what works for mine might not work for another,all our dogs are fed different amounts and different complete.
We feed bones but not small ones, as we have canine hoovers, where everything gets vacumed up without touching the sides lol

I have found that if the bones are not eaten in the one sitting then they tend to go hard and thats when they splinter.

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i am v new to this forum but would just like to say i have always fed raw to my dogs and over the years have had no probs with bones
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, thats not to say thay accidents wont happen, as with many subjects it is a controversial topic and people will always have an opinion. i work in a vets and the thoughts on this way of feeding are mixed but nobody says its wrong or right as its a personal choice for what u believe to be best for yoiur animals ( my dog is perfectly healthy on this diet therefore see no reason to change).
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Interesting thread. The vet's comment about fox's/wild dogs not living long...lol no wild animal lives as long as domesticated stock. Most things are OK in moderation, my lurcher loves a drop of beer and she also gets a little chocolate once in a while. She gets fed the BARF diet and loves it, although I wouldn't give her a chicken drumstick as load bearing bones tend to be a little brittle.

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Meg' will devour a complete rack in one sitting!
 
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I'm surprised you've left cheese/milk off the list.

Dog are lactose intolerant, generally, so feeding milk based products will make them very sick!

Having said that, my old dog would do anything for cheese and grapes and lived over 10 years!

[/ QUOTE ]Steady on guys!....Yes large quantities of milk would make your dog loose but to say "Dog are lactose intolerant, generally, so feeding milk based products will make them <font color="red"> very sick! </font> is a little out of order. It would seem that people are going overboard regarding their dogs diet. No offence and not intending to start a ruck but!, would the majority of parents control their siblings food intake with the same strictness!!
 
I would be inclined to say that reactions to certain 'no go' foods for dogs can depend on each individual.

Both of mine have had episodes with a very large box of lindt lindor (each wrapper perfectly laid out on the floor..the b****rs, I love those and didn't get to have one!) 500g of raisens stolen from my chinchilla's (yes they did have poops that resembled a fruit cake mixture but no lasting effects!) Oh and the contents of numerous bins before we had a work top bin installed - we may have been lucky but they are still fighting fit.

However, that said we would never purposely feed them anything that could harm them- except the odd lump of cheese every so often

BTW, one of ours is a houdini master (opens doors, cupboards, bins) hence how they managed to get thier grubby mits on these particular items!!
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My point being that I agree with Mikethedog in that the majority of dogs are pretty tough and whilst us owners shouldn't feed with careless abandon, i don't think there should be too much panick if they do get their paws on 'forbidden fruits' every now and then
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I feed my 3 dogs the barf diet, result, very happy healthy dogs and they love the raw meaty bones and marrow bones, I don't feed garlic or raisins.Do you other barf feeders use Landywoods?
That's who I use and I buy in bulk and freeze it, people come and buy off of me, their dogs are very healthy as a result.VERY cheap too, much cheaper than tinned or processed dry foods, no additives or preservatives in Landywoods meat.
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I'd agree you can't use the exceptions to prove the rules. My old dog ate an entire Easter basket of chocolate (placed conveniently inside my back door by someone who thought the dog was out with me) and I didn't even notice except to wonder who had left me an empty, decorated basket until the giver asked why I hadn't thanked her! But I do realise that was a lucky escape and giving dogs chocolate regularly is a bad idea.

To the teeth cleaning etc. value of raw meat/bones, my OH's cat was eating a "high end" store brand cat food and was starting to have problems with weight gain and teeth scaling. I read the label one day and freaked out at the amount of sugar and filler so switched her on to a meat diet (prepared as she's used to it and screams if there's no wet food and I wasn't keen to be divorced over it!
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) and some bits of raw chicken left over from what the dog gets. When she went to her next check the vet completely forgot she had recommended a teeth cleaning as the cat's teeth were perfect.
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But then again, I've had two dogs that self feed (not their raw meals, of course, but a high end kibble for "between meal snacking") and done wonderfully on it. Both sighthounds though, and very active, so not exactly the average house dogs.

We all have to live in the real world and do the best with what we've got. I do think people should read the labels on pet food though - even the stuff they DO tell you is scary enough!
 
About the cheese being bad for dogs.. when we went to dog training and agility they recommended cheese for training treats, they even provided cut up cheese for us to use.
I have numerous training books that mention that either cooked chicken or cheese is a good training treat. I suppose its in relatively small quantities though.

My dogs love cheese, bit like their owner in that respect - like things that aren't very good for them, like chocolate!
 
I use a small piece of cheese warmed in the hands so you can mould it, like plasticine (if that's how you spell it?) and when I have to give worm tablets or anything like a tablet to the dogs I pop it side the warmed lump of cheese and down it goes without touching the sides!
The cheese covers any smell of the tablet thank goodness as there is no way I could get the tablets down otherwise, you think you have it down them and 10 mins later you find it spat out in a blob on the carpet, NOT funny when you have to buy more !
The cheese trick is great for fussy, lurchers, terriers and staffy x labs!
Even the cat will eat tablets in this way!
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In general it's not recommended to feed the following things in excess to a Dog:- Sweets, Fat, Condiments, Spicy, Sauces, Bones and other Junk &amp; Colorful Products. These ingredients very bad for Dogs Health. There are many people that give their dogs their chicken or beef bones after having eaten dinner, however this is something that should be avoided. Bones can cause obstructions and they tend to splinter, which can be very harmful not only in your dogs throat but can even cause perforation to parts of his digestive system and this can be fatal.
 
I know this is a touch off topic but do people feel the same way about there horses? is there a topic on natural horse feeds because I'm very interested. I worked over the summer for someone who had 2 danes, a jack russel and a GSD all on raw food (chicken mainly i think, with bits extra) and they smelt so much better than usual, their poo was much less gross too and they were shiny and energetic.
 
you know how said about chocolate well my friend gives her dog chocolate covered digestives and he loves them she gives him them instead of dog treats ass he won't eat them....

he's fine and the vet said it was ok to them to him
 
Well considering the extensive research that has went into it and what can go wrong I don't think I'll take the ris thanks
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After all, a dog doesn't need to have treats, in fact two of mine don't get treats. Or, if they do it's a raw bone.
 
Totally agree with Pocomoto long post here.
A balance diet for a dog is composed mostly of plain old meat preferably raw and/or bones and various states of putrifaction are of no problem to the dogs acid stomach.
My JRT has raw chicken wings (2-3 per day) and loads of exercise. He chooses to ask for raw carrots when I am preparing the vegetables, but I never offered them to start with. He is fit hard and gristly with loads of muscle and has lovely clean teeth.
It makes me so sad when I see these fat weezing dogs limping round the park and when I enquire how old they are, turns out most are under 5 y.o!
I ve had friends who's dogs have had cancer and heart disease and diabetes. All of the poor creatures were fat and never got a decent long walk in their lives. Their breath was foul their coats manky and they were tit bit obsessed. My JRT is only hungry after a long walk and a day at the field
Not hard to guess what muck the owners feed them.
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I feed my 2 daschunds real human food (rice, chicken, fish, vegetables, apples, cheese etc...). I used to give commercial food to my previous dogs but they were always overweight &amp; unhealthy.

Raw bones are ok. And also garlic in small quantities. Olive oil or fish oil does wonders for their coats.

Here's some information regarding natural food diets :DrPitcairn Natural Nutrition for dogs
 
Hi guys

Just joined the forum and what a delight to find so many enlightened people in regards to raw feeding.

I am only on page 2 of this thread but will continue to read on.

Haven't seen a 'newbies' area yet - is there one?
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Kaz
 
my aunties dog rags got badly poisoned from either grapes, raisins or a mixture of the two and it was touch and go as to whether he would survive. poor thing
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he's ok now though but we dont give our dogs either just incase!
 
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