Peregrine Falcon
Looking forward to drier days
Foot x-rays?
Foot x-rays?
https://equinatural.co.uk/i/brewers-yeast-and-why-we-shouldn-t-feed-it-anymore
Damn it I've just bought a new 25kg sack!
Does anyone know if yeasacc is still OK? I guess not, as it's the live version of exactly the same yeast.
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https://equinatural.co.uk/i/brewers-yeast-and-why-we-shouldn-t-feed-it-anymore
Damn it I've just bought a new 25kg sack!
Does anyone know if yeasacc is still OK? I guess not, as it's the live version of exactly the same yeast.
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Cushings/EMS test?
Are you sure this isn't BS? As in mostly strung together with loose connections and misinterpretations of data?
Michen I'm really sorry about Bear, you must be at your wits end about him and almost wishing an alien space craft would swoop down and take him away.
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Malabsorption from the hind but might explain the footiness too?So mine was 2 when his kicked off. I don’t think he got the colostrum needed (older mare) and he had a bit of a worm burden. It all culminated when he had a nasty cut that needed lots of antibiotics. And hey presto gut disaster. If you’ve heavily used antibiotics I wouldn’t be surprised at all if there are hind gut issues. The caecum is on the right and can cause right hind lameness.
I saw an improvement with the Equibiome Prebiotic. And then again once I’d tested and treated accordingly. The test does take about 6weeka and isn’t a quick fix. I’d probably try their prebiotic first and see if you see an improvement.
It all basically about the Gut Biome and the bacteria present. Bad bacteria can cause inflammation and other related issues.
This is the article I read re. Liver and gut.
https://www.equibiome.org/post/design-a-stunning-blog
It looks like there’s been a link in humans too:
https://gut.bmj.com/content/65/12/2035
Edited to say I was a sceptic. But was at my wits end. And had exhausted my vets suggestions.
Ok great thanks that could be another option then! Does it need to be the natural version I wonder?
Malabsorption from the hind but might explain the footiness too?
Would it be worth speaking to a place like forage plus or similar to see if they could do you a tailored supplement - I think its them that do the forage testing and cone up with appropriate supplement fir your forage.
I might sound like a terrible terrible person now. Is he actually lame? Could it be that he's just a bit mechanically unsound? My gait isn't perfect when I run but I'm not in pain just a little wonky and stiff I certainly wouldn't pass a vetting but while a lameness work up/scans etc might show various issues with me I'm still functionally ok and pain free getting about and doing. Much as I understand your desire to get to the bottom of things I'd be tempted to crack on with some work and see how you get on, he'll either get worse in which case you might have some idea where to look next, or better.
I've heard good things about alphabute (it's not bute) and had good experience with global herbs move free for a horse who just needed a bit of extra help. I know there is then the worry of masking pain, but pain free is pain free imo it's not like you're using it to go jump 140 tracks, you just want your nice little horse to have a happy life. Assuming you monitor and there's no change in the feet, liver etc I'd certainly be prepared to try it
This is in no way going to solve all of your problems and I have no idea on the liver front but as far as the feet and feed go, when my lad first went barefoot I did what I thought was the right thing and put him on one of the barefoot friendly supplements. His hoof quality actually declined, his coat looked dull and generally he just didn't look as good. I contacted an independent nutritionist who advised me to put him back on a pelleted balancer because she felt that his diet was likely lacking in enough quality protein. I took her advice and I have to say he does look and feel so much better on it. He does have Cushing's which means they need more protein so that might make a difference depending on the results of your retest for this. He is also a Connie and the only thing I will say is even at this I have had to accept that he will never have prize winning feet. They are still slow growing and he pretty much self trims with only a small amount of work on tarmac. They are loads better than they were though. So obviously I don't know what you feed now and as I said it's nowhere near the whole solution but I thought it worth mentioning in case it can help with the feet issue a little bit.
Also I'm sure you're on top of this but if the standard Cushing's test comes back negative again it might well be worth doing the more sensitive one or even just doing a Prascend trial to see if that helps with the footiness.
I know that it's just one more thing and spendy at £155, but I do recommend getting the equibiome hind gut biome analysis done. That way you'll find out rather than need to guess whether his hind gut is out of kilter.
The test has been recoomended to me by both my chiro vet and my regular vet, who have seen good results based on dietary changes following on from the findings.
My own 10 yo's analysis this year showed that her gut biome was way out . She had a persistent mild RH offness despite competing at BE100 and training to 100. Wish I'd got the test done earlier, but I didn't even know of it.
If the hind gut is off, then the ramifications for the health of the whole horse are immense.
Thanks so much for this. How old is your boy?
Thanks. What's the treatment though, as maybe best just to spend the 150 on treating it and assuming it is an issue?
Maybe a bit off the wall out there. But when my mare had liver trouble she also tested positive for Lyme disease, which can also present in soundness issues. May be absolutely unrelated and not at all what’s wrong with Bear but thought I’d put it out there.