Horse being hit around the head

[Clodagh]

Worked though the little monkey loaded .
Not the worse bit of horse handling I have seen .

So the ends justify the means? It would have loaded the first time if it had been pointed at the ramp.

 

[Baywonder]

It's a pity someone didn't give her a kick and a couple of lashes with the lead rope.

 

[Goldenstar]

No I am not saying that it’s just that it’s just another social media witch hunt of course it’s bad behaviour .
Did the horse suffer long term harm no I would get more indignant about people work horses with shoes that have been on for eight weeks .

 

[meleeka]

Does anyone else think that the horses reaction seemed used to that behaviour?

if someone did that to mine they would not have taken it that well.
Poor horse. Hope it was just a one off but it’s worrying they would ever think that was ok, never mind in public.

Yes! That was exactly my thoughts. If I had done that to my horses they’d have been terrified and probably legged it. They certainly wouldn’t have loaded calmly straight after. It makes you wonder what she does behind closed doors ?

 

[meleeka]

There was a recent prosecution local to me for something very similar.

https://www.facebook.com/107357764305723/posts/405372501170913

The video is in the comments. I struggle to see how so many blatant neglect cases are less likely to face prosecution, but it could just be that cases like this are easier to prove.

 

[Winters100]

Worked though the little monkey loaded .
Not the worse bit of horse handling I have seen .

On the other hand one of mine can be less than keen to load on occasions. Giving him a little time to look and think while being calm and confident works. Same result, different method.

Did not look to me as if this pony needed to be kicked and hit in the face to load, I am pretty sure that a competent adult could have easily loaded him without such a display of childish temper.

 

[Auslander]

Did the horse suffer long term harm no I would get more indignant about people work horses with shoes that have been on for eight weeks .

I'd rather a horse went 9 weeks between shoeings, than got hit around the face for doing absolutely nothing wrong!
Have you watched the video properly? The kid stood beside the ramp, and expected the pony to load itself when it wasn't even presented at the ramp. She dropped the rope, and the pony headed off to join its mates.

 

[palo1]

Incident now trending on Twitter under @RSPCA. I don't think this is over for the 'lady' in the video.

I don't think the RSPCA are going to be delighted though...they have huge amounts of incredibly pressing and difficult work to do without being put under pressure to deal with what is probably a very well looked after horse albeit with a silly cow of an owner. The RSPCA do NOT want to be deluged with this kind of thing...

 

[ycbm]

No I do not think her behaviour is acceptable, but I do find the posting of such things, with no attribution, highly suspect. It is impossible to tell if this was a genuine situation, or possibly one set up just for the camera

You think the woman beating the horse was a hunt saboteur who deliberately had the horse let go in order to hit it when someone brought it back to her so that someone could film it? I think that might be stretching credibility a bit, even for supporters of fox hunting. .

 

[FestiveG]

You think the woman beating the horse was a hunt saboteur who deliberately had the horse let go in order to hit it when someone brought it back to her so that someone could film it? I think that might be stretching credibility a bit, even for supporters of fox hunting. .

I am not particularly a supporter of mounted hunts, however I do not like people starting witch hunts on social media, and have come across some very underhanded methods of "evidence " gathering from people who have a point which they wish to push at the public.

 

[palo1]

You think the woman beating the horse was a hunt saboteur who deliberately had the horse let go in order to hit it when someone brought it back to her so that someone could film it? I think that might be stretching credibility a bit, even for supporters of fox hunting. .

I don't think this incident was stitched up fwiw but I can imagine, potentially that the woman and children had been on the receiving end of some pretty relentless and unpleasant abuse from the filming sabs. I have heard and seen people really, seriously provoked by sabs. There is NO excuse at all but I expect the woman just wanted to get the hell out of the situation and with a child unable to help and possibly other things going on she may well have lost her temper. She should have kicked and hit the box or tyres instead of the pony if she wanted to express those feelings (probably best not but...). I think the bloke on the quad was trying to either help or calm her down.

This may well have been exactly the response sabs were filming for. More fool her for falling for it if that was the case but not everyone can cope with abuse and provocation. She should NOT have involved the poor blooming horse!!

 

[saddlesore]

That was awful to watch, they clearly don’t deserve the company of animals ?

 

[ycbm]

Worked though the little monkey loaded .
Not the worse bit of horse handling I have seen .

Do you think he went on because he was kicked and slapped around the face far too long after the first attempt by an incompetent person failed for him to connect the two events, and nowhere near the lorry ramp?

She hit him because she was angry and is a forceful person. He went on because he recognised a more determined person, I agree. I don't agree that it needed the bit in between for him to load for a more committed handler, or that it helped.
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[ycbm]

I don't think this incident was stitched up fwiw but I can imagine, potentially that the woman and children had been on the receiving end of some pretty relentless and unpleasant abuse from the filming sabs. I have heard and seen people really, seriously provoked by sabs. There is NO excuse at all but I expect the woman just wanted to get the hell out of the situation and with a child unable to help and possibly other things going on she may well have lost her temper. She should have kicked and hit the box or tyres instead of the pony if she wanted to express those feelings (probably best not but...). I think the bloke on the quad was trying to either help or calm her down.

This may well have been exactly the response sabs were filming for. More fool her for falling for it if that was the case but not everyone can cope with abuse and provocation. She should NOT have involved the poor blooming horse!!

Do you have the remotest bit of evidence that she was riled by sabs? If we're going down that line of imagining what the situation might have been, maybe we should query if the sabs were out because the Cottesmore hunt fox and her spoiled day fox hunting was what made her mad?
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[BlackHorseNemo]

Disgraceful behaviour - name and shame her!

 

[mini_b]

Does anyone else think that the horses reaction seemed used to that behaviour?

if someone did that to mine they would not have taken it that well.
Poor horse. Hope it was just a one off but it’s worrying they would ever think that was ok, never mind in public.

i noticed that too. It was quite stoic about it poor sod.

if she carries on like that in full view, knowing they have monitors/Sabs filming, what’s she like at home?

 

[mini_b]

Disgraceful behaviour - name and shame her!

this name and shame has to stop it’s almost medieval.

yes it’s bloody awful behaviour but doxxing folk opening them up to a barrage of hate from THOUSANDS of people on the internet is also disproportionate.
she will be getting enough sh*t (quite rightly so!) from those who have seen it and know it’s her.

 

[Sandales]

I don't think this incident was stitched up fwiw but I can imagine, potentially that the woman and children had been on the receiving end of some pretty relentless and unpleasant abuse from the filming sabs. I have heard and seen people really, seriously provoked by sabs. There is NO excuse at all but I expect the woman just wanted to get the hell out of the situation and with a child unable to help and possibly other things going on she may well have lost her temper. She should have kicked and hit the box or tyres instead of the pony if she wanted to express those feelings (probably best not but...). I think the bloke on the quad was trying to either help or calm her down.

This may well have been exactly the response sabs were filming for. More fool her for falling for it if that was the case but not everyone can cope with abuse and provocation. She should NOT have involved the poor blooming horse!!

Whatever the sabs may have done is irrelevant, she behaved terribly.

If the sabs had been winding her up and she behaved like this even though the sabs were there, I question what she's like out of public view.
Its always a worry for me this sort of behaviour, animal abuse can be a stepping stone to abusing family not saying that's the case here but it has been proven.

 

[FestiveG]

Whatever the sabs may have done is irrelevant, she behaved terribly.

If the sabs had been winding her up and she behaved like this even though the sabs were there, I question what she's like out of public view.
Its always a worry for me this sort of behaviour, animal abuse can be a stepping stone to abusing family not saying that's the case here but it has been proven.

That's not quite correct, there is evidence that people who abuse and damage people do begin with harming animals, however there is not a causal link and the harming of animals, which is then followed by harming people, usually begins in adolescence

 

[Clodagh]

I have walloped horses in the past, I am not a fluffy handler at all, but you do have to set them up to succeed.
To my mind the fact she was hunting is irrelevant, except of course it wouldn’t have got the exposure if she had been doing dressage, for instance.

 

[Peglo]

I am not particularly a supporter of mounted hunts, however I do not like people starting witch hunts on social media, and have come across some very underhanded methods of "evidence " gathering from people who have a point which they wish to push at the public.

i fully agree. I don’t know what CP thinks of hunting but he, as a public figure, is trying to rally hate online against a member of the public is actually quite shocking. He must have a lot of followers and probably some very extremist followers so it’s actually really awful he would do this, regardless of what she did. I think on sabs pages is one thing but he is putting this much farther out there for more hate to gather.

 

[cauda equina]

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[Tiddlypom]

I know he hates hunting but this is a low, and not very effective blow.

Au contraire, this is is going to prove to be very effective indeed at stirring up even more anti hunt outrage.

Be very afraid, hunting peeps.

I'm quite shocked at the pro hunt coming out with the 'nothing to see here, move along folks' type replies. You must be used to seeing this type of horse handling.

 

[Koweyka]

I hope this link works, the Whip from the Flint and Denbigh hitting his horse with the hard end of the whip yesterday.

I believe the woman in the video is known, animal abuse wherever it happens should not be tolerated.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457397736060428290

 

[Sandstone1]

I don't think this incident was stitched up fwiw but I can imagine, potentially that the woman and children had been on the receiving end of some pretty relentless and unpleasant abuse from the filming sabs. I have heard and seen people really, seriously provoked by sabs. There is NO excuse at all but I expect the woman just wanted to get the hell out of the situation and with a child unable to help and possibly other things going on she may well have lost her temper. She should have kicked and hit the box or tyres instead of the pony if she wanted to express those feelings (probably best not but...). I think the bloke on the quad was trying to either help or calm her down.

This may well have been exactly the response sabs were filming for. More fool her for falling for it if that was the case but not everyone can cope with abuse and provocation. She should NOT have involved the poor blooming horse!!

So once again its all the sabs fault! For Gods sake, thats really scrapping the barrel.

 

[Winters100]

Do you have the remotest bit of evidence that she was riled by sabs? If we're going down that line of imagining what the situation might have been, maybe we should query if the sabs were out because the Cottesmore hunt fox and her spoiled day fox hunting was what made her mad?
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I agree, whether or not she was riled by the sabs is irrelevant.

If you go hunting you know that you will meet with opposition, and if you are not able to retain your composure in the face of this then you should stay home. There is absolutely no excuse for doing this to the horse, it served no useful purpose, and to me it seems to be very arrogant that she was happy to do it knowing that she was most likely being filmed.

Likewise any of us who spend significant time around children know that they can seriously test your patience on occasions. Despite this we never hear anyone saying 'she slapped her baby round the face, but he had riled her up by crying for hours, so it was understandable' or 'he kicked his 13 year old, but the boy had been asked 25 times to turn the music down, so it is a valid excuse'.

Yes, we are all human and make mistakes, but as adults we should be able to control our temper, or if we are not at least to have the self awareness not to put ourselves in situations where we may take out our temper on a child or an animal. Did she imagine that any sabs present would be politely asking her to reconsider her decision to hunt? I really cannot be sympathetic whatever may have happened to upset her, as people with poor impulse control should have the common sense to avoid such situations.

 

[Sandstone1]

I hope this link works, the Whip from the Flint and Denbigh hitting his horse with the hard end of the whip yesterday.

I believe the woman in the video is known, animal abuse wherever it happens should not be tolerated.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457397736060428290

I guess the sabs did that too!

 

[Koweyka]

I don't think this incident was stitched up fwiw but I can imagine, potentially that the woman and children had been on the receiving end of some pretty relentless and unpleasant abuse from the filming sabs. I have heard and seen people really, seriously provoked by sabs. There is NO excuse at all but I expect the woman just wanted to get the hell out of the situation and with a child unable to help and possibly other things going on she may well have lost her temper. She should have kicked and hit the box or tyres instead of the pony if she wanted to express those feelings (probably best not but...). I think the bloke on the quad was trying to either help or calm her down.

This may well have been exactly the response sabs were filming for. More fool her for falling for it if that was the case but not everyone can cope with abuse and provocation. She should NOT have involved the poor blooming horse!!

For the love of god, is there anything you will not blame the sabs for !

She is a seasoned hunter plenty of photos of her out hunting with the little pony. She is vile, some of the comments almost attempting to justify this are shocking. There is no situation that exists ever that calls for behaviour like that.

 

[ArklePig]

Some serious mental gymnastics going on here by previous posters. It is entirely possible, to hate sabs, without the need to justify abuse.

This is absolutely disgusting behaviour and anyone calling for 'context' or saying 'well it worked' needs their head checked.

 

[Koweyka]

I guess the sabs did that too!

Hey we also caused Covid and are solely responsible for climate change ? everything is the sabs fault ?