HOW DO MY HORSES HOOVES LOOK ??

[Aarrghimpossiblepony]

Personally, I would like to know exactly *who* is making the original posts, whether real or WUM. If WUM, then indeed I would be happy to walk away. However, I've read the thread and am not entirely convinced either way, but certainly leaning to WUM. If request for help is genuine, then I certainly would not want to drive the OP away - indeed would suggest they get help for their ponies long term (not just short term) as I'm not entirely convinced that as a horse owner, completely on their own without a y/o, manager or other liveries to help out is actually in these ponies best interests.

Same here.

But the tone was set by the second post and followed up by subsequent posts.

Possibly the most unconstructive bit of internet warriorship I have ever witnessed.

 

[PucciNPoni]

Same here.

But the tone was set by the second post and followed up by subsequent posts.

Possibly the most unconstructive bit of internet warriorship I have ever witnessed.

Yes I agree....yet the part that niggles me is that anyone else would just say "Bog Off the lot of you" unless they were trying to get a reaction. Or they would take the advice given and get a vet out immediately. Neither seems to have happened? So that makes me think that it's a WUM.

 

[TuscanBunnyGirl]

Does everyone agree that the first thing is to get these ponies seen by a vet today, so help and advice can be made available?? I am sure if a vet feels a welfare call necessary that would follow too. Surely the best thing we can do from here is to encourage an urgent vet visit. If money is the reason OP wont call the vet today and we remove that problem then it simply has to be a wind up considering the alarming nature of some of the posts. I can understand some of the anger, but the only thing I really want to do is get help for the ponies that seem to be in trouble in this thread. Trying to win an argument with someone that thinks differently to you is a waste of energy. I am in essex and if OP is in my area I am happy to do what I can to sort this situation out!

The OP has been told hundreds of times these poor ponies need to be seen by the vet NOW, but she isn't listening and doesn't seem to realise/care how bad this situation is.
Why should people give their money to someone who has willingly/stupidly taken on the responsibility of 2 horses that she cannot look after! Maybe I should leave my horses feet till someone offers me money to have them done I understand that you're trying to be helpful but OP doesn't understand the urgency and thinks her horses are fine and just need their feet trimming. Authorities should be round to see her soon and will hopefully a) educate her and keep an eye on them b) take them away

 

[Purple18]

i still don't why OP just doesn't ring a vet asap.


there's nothing more to say really

 

[jessieblue]

Some people just crave attention, good or bad! There could be a genuine cry for help here, somewhere but like a petulant teenager whatever advice is offered gets thrown back at you. If she is genuine then some of what has been said may play on her mind and she may do the right thing. If not, then we tried, so just get on with your lives people.

 

[Aarrghimpossiblepony]

Yes I agree....yet the part that niggles me is that anyone else would just say "Bog Off the lot of you" unless they were trying to get a reaction. Or they would take the advice given and get a vet out immediately. Neither seems to have happened? So that makes me think that it's a WUM.

The only thing that anybody can be sure of is that there are photos of, and the OP has access to, two ponies who don't look in good condition.

That should be the starting point.

 

[jessieblue]

The OP has been told hundreds of times these poor ponies need to be seen by the vet NOW, but she isn't listening and doesn't seem to realise/care how bad this situation is.
Why should people give their money to someone who has willingly/stupidly taken on the responsibility of 2 horses that she cannot look after! Maybe I should leave my horses feet till someone offers me money to have them done I understand that you're trying to be helpful but OP doesn't understand the urgency and thinks her horses are fine and just need their feet trimming. Authorities should be round to see her soon and will hopefully a) educate her and keep an eye on them b) take them away

Well I wasnt going to give my money to her, I was offering to pay toward her vet bill because I really want her ponies to be seen by a damn vet today!! It wasnt about her it was about the ponies, but I guess it ends up being about the money!!! Anyway, I dont expect anyone else to get cash out, but I am happy to help if the ponies suffer less as a result.

 

[_HP_]

Well...if this is genuine, it's quite likely that the owner of these ponies won't be asking for help here again

 

[jessieblue]

To be honest Im not sure why we are all arguing amongst ourselves lol. I am guessing welfare wont make an emergency call either!!

 

[Purple18]

Well...if this is genuine, it's quite likely that the owner of these ponies won't be asking for help here again

as far as i can see most people here have tried to help and offer advice. Not exactly much that can be done if OP doesn't take on board what people have told her.

she made this thread with the title : HOW DO MY HORSES HOOVES LOOK ?

she got honest concerned answers about the question she was asking nothing more nothing less

 

[ester]

I'm amazed how many seem to think a pony can have a protruding pedal and and still be walking happily......

 

[TelH]

A couple of years or so ago I got a yearling filly and her dam who was in foal again. They were both in a very similar condition to OP's colt. I brought them home on a Wednesday evening. Thursday morning I had the vet to them and Thursday afternoon I had the farrier to them. That's how it should be imo. Just saying.

 

[TPO]

The " protruding pedal bone" isn't the point IMO. Based on each individuals experience their opinion on what they are seeing will differ. However I have seen a pony with a protruding pedal bone walk, graze, lie down and get up. Some are very stoic.

The point of the matter, IMO, is that there are two horses not receiving adequate care and owned by someone without the knowledge to keep them.

If you read the OP's other threads you'll see that she has received copious amounts of good advice that she has ignored.

She bought that yearling not being aware that it had any problems ( her words when defending her lack of experience/ being scared of leafing) when to anyone else it is obvious that it was not a healthy yearling in good condition.

OP states that she bought the yearling in December, that's 6 mths ago. It would be a safe assumption that his feet haven't been done since she took over ownership. Also the yearling should have been under vet attention having started a vaccination programme. I would find it hard to believe that this is the case.

I'd also wonder if either horse had a passport and the possible implication of that when the SSPCA visit.

The SSPCA have seen the pictures, videos and this thread. THEY have decided that this situation does need attention.

Arguing with OP and/or each other is pointless. All that can be done given the circumstances has been done. When they are open on Monday this can also be reported to WHW and/or BHS welfare who, if nothing else, are able to provide specific equine care and support.

All I'm hoping for is a happy ending for both horses; isn't that all everyone wants?

 

[Holly Hocks]

Is everyone convinced that the OP is genuine? Definitely not another Rileyboy??

OP - if you are genuine, please get some help with your horses. Do let us know the outcome and I hope you get them sorted out. Photos are deceptive, I know, but as we only have the photos to look at, they do look concerning.

 

[TwoStroke]

It doesn't look at all like a pedal bone protruding to me. It looks like a young pony that has lived on soft ground and has not been shedding the sole as it should have. Well overdue for a trim and shouldn't have got that bad in the first place, but having bought young ponies who have never been trimmed or handled in their lives, nothing that can't be sorted out.

This is also what I see.

Good luck with the farrier, OP, and try not to let the hooves go so long without a trim next time .

If possible, get the horses out on the roads for a bit of stimulation to the hooves. Some walks out with the yearling would also be educational for him .

 

[devonlass]

it's just so overwhelming when everyone is attacking you through the internet when all i am doing is asking for help and advise, and i know their feet are far from perfect and i did write that in the very first post,i hope a visit from the farrier is all that is needed

There is a wealth of knowledge and good advice on this forum,it would be one of the first places I would ask if needing guidance.However it is also one of the worst forums for bullying and suffers from a certain type of gang mentality at times.Sadly you have been on the receiving end of this for most of this thread.Not HHO's finest hour,but I hope it doesn't put you off returning.

Your horses feet are indeed far from perfect but IMO based on what I can see in the pics they're not even close to bad enough to warrant the replies on here or to call a vet out on a bank holiday,although that of course is your choice,and if it gives you peace of mind then may well be worth the cost to you.

Personally i think getting a farrier or trimmer out as soon as you can after the bank holiday is a perfectly good plan

DL there are actually multiple pics of the protrusion... On the op's photo bucket account, really doesn't seem like debris to me

you have missed the bit where I said I hope I am in the wrong with regards to seriousness, I would far rather overreact and call SSPCA than under react and not call them and have a pony suffer.

Just because you would walk by the op's field and leave her to her own devices doesn't mean we would and doesn't mean we should!

Silly me for not thinking to snoop on the OP photo bucket account

I'm not saying it is or isn't debris,I'm saying it *could* be.My gut feeling is that it's sole material,but who knows without seeing it in the flesh so to speak.

The point is I'm not pouncing on the OP and accusing her of cruelty without being sure of what is wrong.

I really hope you're wrong as well in regard to the seriousness,and i hope if you are wrong you will have the decency to apologise to the OP and admit you are wrong in the same very public manner that you have used to accuse her.

Oh and for what it's worth yes i would walk by the OP's field and leave her to her own devices.Why wouldn't I?? Two young horses that look and move perfectly fine,not sure why I would think there was anything wrong enough to justify me stalking the OP and inviting myself into her field and having a gander!!

It doesn't look at all like a pedal bone protruding to me. It looks like a young pony that has lived on soft ground and has not been shedding the sole as it should have. Well overdue for a trim and shouldn't have got that bad in the first place, but having bought young ponies who have never been trimmed or handled in their lives, nothing that can't be sorted out.

Just wanted to bump this in case it had been missed amongst the hysteria.

Giving them up to someone more knowledgeable would be the best thing you could do for them

I really think suggesting OP gives her horses away on the basis of overgrown hooves is very OTT.

Even if it does turn out to be a more serious problem,people have issues with horses all the time,it does not mean they shouldn't own them.

If everyone here has suggested you urgently phone your vet (which means now, this minute) why are you waiting til Monday? Are you deliberately trying to wind up people who are trying to help? Wouldn't you rather get them all off your back?

Lol I can't believe the arrogance on this thread.Who are you or any of us to demand someone get's a vet for their horse?? Last time I checked this was an internet forum not a legal institution.

What makes you qualified to insist OP get's a vet on a bank holiday for a problem that can most likely be sorted by a farrier/trimmer and without the need for a vet at all??!!

You are not trying to help this girl or her ponies with that sort of attitude.You are just fuelling your own sense of importance and imagined superiority.There are any number of suggestions you could have made that would have actually helped,but from reading your posts all I got was a load of drama,scare mongering and accusations.

I feel so sorry for this girl.She obviously has concerns to ask the question,now she mostly has options that include no future for the little lad or giving her horses to someone else.

Just hope she has seen the educational links and few genuine offers of help,and can at least take something constructive away from this thread.

 

[Tern]

I'm amazed how many seem to think a pony can have a protruding pedal and and still be walking happily......

There's no videos showing it is The picture of it walking could have been it limping horrifically

 

[Tern]

OP the feet are in bad condition, the youngster is thin, if you don't mind me asking, what do you actually do with them? Like is the 5 year old backed etc?

OP you dont have enough knowledge, please get some

and one more point SPEAKING LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME FOR A WHOLE PARAGRAPH is considered rude and also hard for some to read

 

[Purple18]

Lets just hope there's a happy outcome with that's with op or not. op clearly needs some guidance it would be lovely isfop could get the help to keep her horses with the support of a charity and hopefully this forum if she chooses to remain.

 

[amandap]

There's no videos showing it is The picture of it walking could have been it limping horrifically

THEM BOTH WALKING

Hopefully I've used the right link.

 

[Tern]

Hopefully I've used the right link.

Ah sorry! My mistake i thought that was another picture

 

[amandap]

Doh! I can't do it. Page 3 or 4.

 

[Tern]

Manes need a good brush OP! and don't leave plaits in, can cause accidents

 

[Meowy Catkin]

There's no videos showing it is The picture of it walking could have been it limping horrifically

Yes there is. I have no doubt that the odd looking sole is not the pedal bone breaking through the sole.

http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/louise_b2010/media/DSCF1956_zpsf90053f2.mp4.html

I have not read the whole of this thread because it's quite hysterical and frankly I feel really bad for Mariebx19.

She does not have crippled horses and she was concerned about their hooves and asked for advice. She has booked a Farrier and has said that she will get the Vet. I'm really hoping that she updates us with her horses progress when they have been.

I do understand why people got so upset, but please give her a chance to sort it out.

This forum can be so helpful to novices - think how proud we all were when Cobsunshine sorted out the weight and saddle issues that their cab had. However there have also been times when 'trolls' have been jumped on, only to later find out that they were genuine posters who were genuine novices but had come on here for help.

 

[Tern]

Yes there is. I have no doubt that the odd looking sole is not the pedal bone breaking through the sole.

http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/louise_b2010/media/DSCF1956_zpsf90053f2.mp4.html

I have not read the whole of this thread because it's quite hysterical and frankly I feel really bad for Mariebx19.

She does not have crippled horses and she was concerned about their hooves and asked for advice. She has booked a Farrier and has said that she will get the Vet. I'm really hoping that she updates us with her horses progress when they have been.

I do understand why people got so upset, but please give her a chance to sort it out.

This forum can be so helpful to novices - think how proud we all were when Cobsunshine sorted out the weight and saddle issues that their cab had. However there have also been times when 'trolls' have been jumped on, only to later find out that they were genuine posters who were genuine novices but had come on here for help.

No i feel bad for Mariebx19 as she doesn't know much but I genuinely think she should have taken on 1 horse rather than two And yes i just saw there was a video

 

[Queenbee]

There is a wealth of knowledge and good advice on this forum,it would be one of the first places I would ask if needing guidance.However it is also one of the worst forums for bullying and suffers from a certain type of gang mentality at times.Sadly you have been on the receiving end of this for most of this thread.Not HHO's finest hour,but I hope it doesn't put you off returning.

Your horses feet are indeed far from perfect but IMO based on what I can see in the pics they're not even close to bad enough to warrant the replies on here or to call a vet out on a bank holiday,although that of course is your choice,and if it gives you peace of mind then may well be worth the cost to you.

Personally i think getting a farrier or trimmer out as soon as you can after the bank holiday is a perfectly good plan



Silly me for not thinking to snoop on the OP photo bucket account

I'm not saying it is or isn't debris,I'm saying it *could* be.My gut feeling is that it's sole material,but who knows without seeing it in the flesh so to speak.

The point is I'm not pouncing on the OP and accusing her of cruelty without being sure of what is wrong.

I really hope you're wrong as well in regard to the seriousness,and i hope if you are wrong you will have the decency to apologise to the OP and admit you are wrong in the same very public manner that you have used to accuse her.

Oh and for what it's worth yes i would walk by the OP's field and leave her to her own devices.Why wouldn't I?? Two young horses that look and move perfectly fine,not sure why I would think there was anything wrong enough to justify me stalking the OP and inviting myself into her field and having a gander!!



Just wanted to bump this in case it had been missed amongst the hysteria.



I really think suggesting OP gives her horses away on the basis of overgrown hooves is very OTT.

Even if it does turn out to be a more serious problem,people have issues with horses all the time,it does not mean they shouldn't own them.



Lol I can't believe the arrogance on this thread.Who are you or any of us to demand someone get's a vet for their horse?? Last time I checked this was an internet forum not a legal institution.

What makes you qualified to insist OP get's a vet on a bank holiday for a problem that can most likely be sorted by a farrier/trimmer and without the need for a vet at all??!!

You are not trying to help this girl or her ponies with that sort of attitude.You are just fuelling your own sense of importance and imagined superiority.There are any number of suggestions you could have made that would have actually helped,but from reading your posts all I got was a load of drama,scare mongering and accusations.

I feel so sorry for this girl.She obviously has concerns to ask the question,now she mostly has options that include no future for the little lad or giving her horses to someone else.

Just hope she has seen the educational links and few genuine offers of help,and can at least take something constructive away from this thread.

Yes, silly you! I am not pouncing.... All I want is for op to get hands on support and guidance. Pedal bone, debris, whatever it is it is not a healthy sound hoof! Op is in way out of her depth, I couldn't care less how you would have handled it, I firmly believe intervention is needed, I'm not saying these horses need to be removed from op's care, I am saying that yes... To let those hooves go that long IS without a doubt cruelty whether through ignorance, deliberate act or lack of money. Those hooves should have been addressed as a priority as soon as op got the youngster. I firmly believe that if SSPCA find the location, they will intervene by supporting and educating op and putting her on the right track.

Quite frankly I don't care if I hurt her feelings or offend you by taking a course of action that you would not, I only care about those horses being checked and their issues sorted, whatever those issues may be.

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Cobbyhoofs - The thing is, she has them now and what she needs to do is learn. If she is willing to learn and there is someone willing to help her, then that will be the best thing for the horses.

 

[jessieblue]

Devonlass. Here here! I agree with everything you say. We simply cannot know what the problem is until it is seen in the flesh so to speak. I worry that more concern is put on the horses welfare than that of a young woman who sounds a little desperate at times. She obviously cares about her animals to be even posting for advice in the first place. Sure she no doubt needs guidance and support, but we shouldnt be too quick to judge a situation based on some photos. I personally see hundreds of horses just like these in fields every day. They dont look at deaths door yet. The feet are very worrying, but my limited knowledge doesnt mean I can say for sure what is going on there! Hopefully she will have someone look at it very soon. I would have called a vet today for sure after reading those comments. But then I am always calling a vet for every little concern I have!! I sincerely hope she will let us know what happens as I have been genuinely concerned for her and her horses all day!

Guys I have to say at times it did feel like bullying!!

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

I have tried very hard to resist commenting on this thread but I really feel I have to, as now it has gone too far with hounding this girl. I really hope she is still reading this thread but wouldn't blame her one bit if she is not. If there is a more alarming and sinister reason for her lack of response, well I hope you all feel pleased with yourselves?

All your self righteous posturing will not do one damn thing to help these ponies. All the vitriol and thinly disguised glee at some posters grabbing the opportunity, yet again, to come together in a screaming gang of harpies, doing their utmost to demoralize and destroy another vulnerable poster. And all of that supposedly in the name of 'only wanting the best for the ponies'! do leave it out, only wanting the most entertainment value for yourselves is more the truth of it.

Is there one single person, within reasonable distance of this young person who would be willing to offer to mentor and guide her through her steep learning curve with these cobs? Don't all rush at once to volunteer will you? If lack of funds is an issue with getting them assessed and on the right track to a happy and healthy future -WITH their present owner, I am with the other poster who would be willing to help towards vet fees if necessary.

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Is there one single person, within reasonable distance of this young person who would be willing to offer to mentor and guide her through her steep learning curve with these cobs?

I really hope that someone can do this.