Koweyka
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I haven’t reported anybody or have anyone on user ignore, if I am insulted it makes absolutely no difference to me.
Hunting is in a spot of bother
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Fred66
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It was only if you had I would have admired the action as the vitriol and language used was unpleasant and it would be admirable for someone who it was not directed at to have reported it.
Clodagh
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It wasn’t that bad? I must have missed the offensive post.
Rowreach
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She was rather rude. I went to quote it and it was already gone.
Clodagh
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Fair enough. Must get quicker ?
Koweyka
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I never saw what she wrote, however I have been on the receiving end of some very nasty comments and they were never reported by anyone so ?
palo1
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I never saw what she wrote, however I have been on the receiving end of some very nasty comments and they were never reported by anyone so ?
I think the discussion here on HHO has been fairly civil and I haven't seen comments aimed at you that were very nasty so I would be interested to know what they were? On the whole the 'nasty' comment stuff generally seems to reflect the emotional response of anti-hunters toward those that are openly supporting trail hunting rather than the other way round. As an aside it has been great to see registered hunts so well supported at big equestrian events this spring - long may that continue!!
Quigleyandme
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I agree with Palo on this point Koweyka. I haven’t seen any uncivil posts directed at you. I have always respected the way both Palo and you, Koweyka, conduct yourselves on here given your opposing beliefs.
GSD Woman
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This the thread that will not die, isn't it?
I read the article about the fox center previously, where I don't recollect.
When I was in tech school each tech student had to help for X amount of time at the Wildlife Center of Virginia. The idea there was to rehab injured wildlife back to being released. A few animals that couldn't be released were kept for teaching. Anything else that couldn't be released was euthanized. In the fall all of the fawns that were brought in because people thought they were orphaned were released into Shenandoah National Forest. No hunting/shooting is allowed in the park.
Is there something like that available in England that wouldn't be keeping them in cages.
I read the article about the fox center previously, where I don't recollect.
When I was in tech school each tech student had to help for X amount of time at the Wildlife Center of Virginia. The idea there was to rehab injured wildlife back to being released. A few animals that couldn't be released were kept for teaching. Anything else that couldn't be released was euthanized. In the fall all of the fawns that were brought in because people thought they were orphaned were released into Shenandoah National Forest. No hunting/shooting is allowed in the park.
Is there something like that available in England that wouldn't be keeping them in cages.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
There are a number of wildlife rehab centres around the country, although, as far as I know, few foxes are treated at them.
Koweyka
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Hopefully the M.O.D will follow suit and even more hunts will be consigned to history.
? VICTORY! ?
The Lake District National Park Authority will now 'suspend trail hunting licences indefinitely for activity on land owned by the LDNPA'!
This decision is a direct result of our exposé of the infamous Hunting Office webinars, which led to the Director of the Masters of Foxhounds Association being found guilty of encouraging hunts to break the Hunting Act.
? VICTORY! ?
The Lake District National Park Authority will now 'suspend trail hunting licences indefinitely for activity on land owned by the LDNPA'!
This decision is a direct result of our exposé of the infamous Hunting Office webinars, which led to the Director of the Masters of Foxhounds Association being found guilty of encouraging hunts to break the Hunting Act.
palo1
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Yes, it is a result of anti-hunt activities because of hunts not following the law. It will affect less than 4% of the National Park.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
How come there has been a prosecution completed for a footballer who kicked a cat and not for a hunt employee(?) who trapped a wild animal and stabbed it with a pitchfork long before?
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Sandstone1
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Thats a good question. That person should be going to jail. Clear video evidence and clear view of who it is. Dreadful and completely un called for cruelty.
Chuffy99
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Paul O’Shea and a 16 yo girl have been charged with various cruelty and hunting a fox with dogs according to the East Anglian Times today
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
The Essex fox stabber has finally been charged nearly 6 months after the incident
He has been officially named as Paul O'Shea. The minor seen with him in the fox torturing video has also been charged.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-06-14...l-charged-in-connection-with-cruelty-to-a-fox
Paul O'Shea is listed as being a 'countryman' for the East Essex Hunt in Horse and Hound's gushing report dated 16/12/21. He also, according to the H&H report, occasionally whips in. His wife is a joint master of the East Essex. She is praised for always being in the right place to watch hounds ?. Handy, that.
He has been officially named as Paul O'Shea. The minor seen with him in the fox torturing video has also been charged.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-06-14...l-charged-in-connection-with-cruelty-to-a-fox
Paul O'Shea is listed as being a 'countryman' for the East Essex Hunt in Horse and Hound's gushing report dated 16/12/21. He also, according to the H&H report, occasionally whips in. His wife is a joint master of the East Essex. She is praised for always being in the right place to watch hounds ?. Handy, that.
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ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
About time!
Sandstone1
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It certainly is about time and lets hope the punishment fits the crime.
Clodagh
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I was just coming on to say he has been charged. I loved hunting but people like this… no words suffice.
I do hear that Mrs O’Shea has stood down as master.
Clodagh
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What did the footballer get? I probably did know at the time, blame my age.
palo1
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Quite. I am very relieved he and the minor have been charged. They should not be allowed anywhere near animals; the video was utterly horrific.
CrunchieBoi
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Gary Thorpe is an utter buffoon, this type of scandal being associated with his hunt isnt the least bit surprising.
Clodagh
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Any news? Weren’t they due in yesterday?
Koweyka
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GUILTYToday at Chelmsford Magistrates Paul O'Shea, terrierman for the East Essex Hunt, plead guilty to Animal Welfare Act and Hunting Act charges as a result of covert footage taken by North London Hunt Saboteurs.
Namely that he caused unnecessary suffering to an animal by stabbing it with a pitchfork (Section 4 Animal Welfare Act 2006) and that he unlawfully hunted a fox (Section 1 Hunting Act 2004)
Magistrates deferred sentencing until Monday 1st August pending pre sentence reports.
The chair magistrate warned O'Shea that "you have plead guilty to two serious offences, a custodial sentence is a distinct possibility."
Charges against his under 18 daughter were dropped.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
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Koweyka, please edit out the sentence which identifies the minor. Her identity may well be plastered elsewhere all over the internet, but she is a minor and as such she should not be named.
At least Paul O'Shea pleaded guilty. Let's hope for a long custodial sentence.
Are the East Essex Hunt owning up to what was done by one of their employees - who is also the husband of a person who was joint master at the time of the offences and who was lauded in the E.Essex Hunt write up in Horse and Hound magazine which appeared in print shortly after the offences were committed?
Koweyka, please edit out the sentence which identifies the minor. Her identity may well be plastered elsewhere all over the internet, but she is a minor and as such she should not be named.
At least Paul O'Shea pleaded guilty. Let's hope for a long custodial sentence.
Are the East Essex Hunt owning up to what was done by one of their employees - who is also the husband of a person who was joint master at the time of the offences and who was lauded in the E.Essex Hunt write up in Horse and Hound magazine which appeared in print shortly after the offences were committed?
Clodagh
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I wonder if he will go to jail? I’m glad he pleaded guilty.
palo1
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I hope it never entered either his or his advisors minds to plead anything else!! Not sure about a custodial sentence but he certainly deserves one. Total lowlife.
Clodagh
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I was a bit worried that some loophole would make the filming inadmissible and the defence might try that.
On a damage limitation front for hunting it’s better that he plead guilty and they can move on/ pretend it never happened.
I’m still sickened by it.
Sandstone1
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I hope he goes down for a long time. How could he not plead guilty when its there for all to see. Sad excuse for a human being,
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Don't hope too hard for a prison sentence, by pleading guilty at the first opportunity he is entitled to a reduction in sentence of up to 25%, which may well bring this down below custodial.
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