I’m not sure what to think….

[tristar]

I agree that Countryfile is rubbish and was a bad example. I didn’t see the programme as sensationalist and I didn’t feel it was trying to say that treatment of cows there was representative of all dairy farms.

it does not matter if it was only one farm, its terrible, but a while ago the intention of creating huge indoor dairy farms emerged, at the time i could not imagine how cows could be kept that way, shocking

the animals should have access to outdoors everyday possible

i cant imagine a worse way to keep them, sickening

 

[Birker2020]

What frustrates me about these situations is the holy than thou attitude of a lot of people. I think everyone has forgotten human beings are flawed, you can be a good person and have a error of judgement and do a bad thing. Just as occasionally “bad” people can be kind.

Of course this is human nature. But there's holier than thou situations and there's trying to explain a situation and constantly banging one's head against the wall.

I think he was wrong to do what he did, if he'd pushed the branch into the horses bum it wouldn't have been quite so bad but to whack it 10 times was wrong. The horse obviously didn't have much confidence in either the rider or the water but would have even less against MT now!

 

[Tiddlypom]

Back to Mark Todd he has had his training licence suspended

https://www.racingpost.com/news/lat...-bha-with-video-investigations-ongoing/538376

I'm afraid that was inevitable . The BHA had to be seen to act, but I hope that the suspension is only temporary. I wouldn't be too sure about that, though, they may feel that he has to made an example of.

A BHA statement read: "The chair of British racing’s Independent Judicial Panel has today approved an application from the BHA that an interim suspension should be placed on the training licence of Sir Mark Todd following the emergence over the weekend of a video showing him striking a horse with what appears to be a branch.

"This interim suspension means that while investigations continue into the circumstances of this incident, Sir Mark will be unable to race horses in Britain or internationally.

"The trainer has admitted the individual involved in the video was him, has apologised for his actions and agreed to the imposition of an interim suspension."

 

[sakura]

I think MT's actions, whether a one-off or not, are unjustifiable and I have lost any respect for him that I previously had.

 

[HBB]

After what I’ve heard and read from friends that know this rider personally, it’s the poor horse that needs saving.
It appears both her and MT are as bad as each other with their methods of training.
Her previous boss has let her feeling be known on FB, as have other liveries that refused to let her handle their horses due to her temper.

 

[cauda equina]

[QUOTE="Upthecreek, post: 14845202, You can watch Countryfile or any of the other ‘country’ programmes for balance.

Hardly imo, most of the BBC programmes about the "countryside" have nothing to do with farming and a lot to do with countryside access. There does seem to be a very strange bias currently in the BBC, hence the continued use of Packham, alongside his very different treatment from other freelance specialists. It appears unhealthy and very anti farming currently.[/QUOTE]
Or if not actively anti farming, it certainly seems to cater more for the townies non-expert listener when talking about farming
On a recent Farming Today they were talking about silage - 'That's preserved grass used to feed animals. You may have seen it stacked up around fields'.

 

[Rowreach]

Hardly imo, most of the BBC programmes about the "countryside" have nothing to do with farming and a lot to do with countryside access. There does seem to be a very strange bias currently in the BBC, hence the continued use of Packham, alongside his very different treatment from other freelance specialists. It appears unhealthy and very anti farming currently.

Or if not actively anti farming, it certainly seems to cater more for the townies non-expert listener when talking about farming
On a recent Farming Today they were talking about silage - 'That's preserved grass used to feed animals. You may have seen it stacked up around fields'.[/QUOTE]

And their latest offering of Kelvin from Emmerdale. Ye gods.

 

[Upthecreek]

I already said Countryfile was a bad example. The target audience for those programmes is not people who already have a good understanding of farming/country pursuits etc. Unfortunately a lot of what is broadcast is inaccurate/misleading and some of the presenters are cringeworthy, which doesn’t help.

 

[Upthecreek]

I mean all those muscles and he is scared or squeamish about everything! Very disappointing ?

 

[cauda equina]

Or if not actively anti farming, it certainly seems to cater more for the townies non-expert listener when talking about farming
On a recent Farming Today they were talking about silage - 'That's preserved grass used to feed animals. You may have seen it stacked up around fields'.

And their latest offering of Kelvin from Emmerdale. Ye gods.[/QUOTE]
Who's Kelvin?

 

[Chianti]

I already said Countryfile was a bad example. The target audience for those programmes is not people who already have a good understanding of farming/country pursuits etc. Unfortunately a lot of what is broadcast is inaccurate/misleading and some of the presenters are cringeworthy, which doesn’t help.

It seems to have become Blue Peter for adults. I can't watch it as the ' I went along to lend a hand' drives me mad.

 

[Rowreach]

Who's Kelvin?

Like I said, he's in Emmerdale. And now he's doing a "farming" programme on BBC.

 

[cauda equina]

Oh, is that the Top Gear in Tractors thing?

 

[AmyMay]

Like I said, he's in Emmerdale. And now he's doing a "farming" programme on BBC.

Tbf he’s bought a farm, and they’re filming his first year.

 

[AmyMay]

Oh, is that the Top Gear in Tractors thing?

No, that’s Clarkson’s Farm - which was fantastic.

 

[cauda equina]

Clarkson and fantastic do not belong in the same sentence IMHO!

 

[Rowreach]

Tbf he’s bought a farm, and they’re filming his first year.

Yes, I know that, thank you.

 

[ycbm]

Deleted wrong show

 

[ycbm]

Tbf he’s bought a farm, and they’re filming his first year.

That's local to me and the real farmers are furious about the bad impression of farming he's causing with ill treatment of his animals.

 

[FestiveG]

That's local to me and the real farmers are furious about the bad impression of farming he's causing with ill treatment of his animals.

I presume that part of his paying for the farm is the remuneration from the BBC, it beggars belief!

 

[AmyMay]

That's local to me and the real farmers are furious about the bad impression of farming he's causing with ill treatment of his animals.

Really?

 

[Rowreach]

That's local to me and the real farmers are furious about the bad impression of farming he's causing with ill treatment of his animals.

He certainly comes across as someone without a clue but with a very short temper. As stated by his wife in Ep1.

 

[ycbm]

Really?

Yes, his advisor is taking a real slating. I haven't watch it, just heard sheep farming friends talking about it.
.

 

[Chianti]

I was browsing 'equestrian books' on amazon last night, looking for my next read, and this popped up

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cant-Watch-Anymore-Dropping-Equestrian/dp/8797354309/ref=sr_1_19?crid=32GF5DPHDBJW4&keywords=equestrian+books&qid=1644851682&sprefix=equestrian+books,aps,81&sr=8-19

I haven't ordered it, but it sounds pretty eyebrow raising, and made me think how much top level sport really needs to clean up both it's image and its actions if people are going to carry on using horses in this way. It's really getting harder to justify the 'norm' for a lot of people.

I ordered it and have just read it - it's a very difficult read. I do wonder how long we'll go on as we are.

 

[Arzada]

I ordered it and have just read it - it's a very difficult read. I do wonder how long we'll go on as we are.

I only got as far as the front cover of the book as shown on the Amazon page. What rider would watch a video/see stills of their horse looking like this and fail to realise that something terrible is happening to their horse, that they are the cause and think that it's OK to continue like this?

 

[eahotson]

I ordered it and have just read it - it's a very difficult read. I do wonder how long we'll go on as we are.

I have also bought it and find it a very difficult read.Things need to change NOW.

 

[Bay.chestnut.coloure]

After what I’ve heard and read from friends that know this rider personally, it’s the poor horse that needs saving.
It appears both her and MT are as bad as each other with their methods of training.
Her previous boss has let her feeling be known on FB, as have other liveries that refused to let her handle their horses due to her temper.

I have seen a few people now say she was removed from a yard for mistreatment theft and bullying? Pot kettle black...

 

[HBB]

I have seen a few people now say she was removed from a yard for mistreatment theft and bullying? Pot kettle black...

Yes, she sadly has form. A below average rider with anger issues, has injured horses in her care, liveries wanted her removed due to her violent outbursts while handling their horses and showed no remorse when she left one horse with a swollen eye after an attack. A previous colleague worked 2 shifts with her and refused to work further with her due to the way she treated clients horses.
There is a lot of shock and anger locally as people can not get their head around why she waited 2 years to release the video and was suddenly upset at what had happened at the clinic. She turned up with a poorly prepared unfit horse and she didn't have the skill or knowledge to ride it at that level, she was completely out her depth, was overly vocal and heavy handed throughout the lesson, she badly let the horse down.
The whole situation is a complete mess.

 

[wills_91]

Yes, she sadly has form. A below average rider with anger issues, has injured horses in her care, liveries wanted her removed due to her violent outbursts while handling their horses and showed no remorse when she left one horse with a swollen eye after an attack. A previous colleague worked 2 shifts with her and refused to work further with her due to the way she treated clients horses.
There is a lot of shock and anger locally as people can not get their head around why she waited 2 years to release the video and was suddenly upset at what had happened at the clinic. She turned up with a poorly prepared unfit horse and she didn't have the skill or knowledge to ride it at that level, she was completely out her depth, was overly vocal and heavy handed throughout the lesson, she badly let the horse down.
The whole situation is a complete mess.

Where are you seeing this posted? I haven't read this anywhere else...

 

[Bay.chestnut.coloure]

Where are you seeing this posted? I haven't read this anywhere else...

Mostly through mutual friends posts on Facebook as she is quite local to me,
The whole mark todd topic is all over the horsey and eventing forms on Facebook though