Irresponsible Owners

[Janique]

I am going to do a two days Tellington Touch course next week end.

I am a little apprehensive as Nouille isn't what you will call a obedient dog...

All she wants is follow scent and hunt, she doesn't care about other dogs or people.

I saw that, the dogs have to walk over a ladder on the ground, to learn where to put their paws, no offence, but it seems
a bit stupid as when we walk across the forest, she jumps logs, go under branches and usually work with her brain to avoid obstacles.

Walking over a ladder on the ground, won't impress her a little bit...

Anyone having experience with the Tellington Touch methode ? Guess, i need to go there with a positive frame of mind,
someone gifted me the course, they probably thought that Nouille and i needed it !

 

[Teaselmeg]

I am going to do a two days Tellington Touch course next week end.

I am a little apprehensive as Nouille isn't what you will call a obedient dog...

All she wants is follow scent and hunt, she doesn't care about other dogs or people.

I saw that, the dogs have to walk over a ladder on the ground, to learn where to put their paws, no offence, but it seems
a bit stupid as when we walk across the forest, she jumps logs, go under branches and usually work with her brain to avoid obstacles.

Walking over a ladder on the ground, won't impress her a little bit...

Anyone having experience with the Tellington Touch methode ? Guess, i need to go there with a positive frame of mind,
someone gifted me the course, they probably thought that Nouille and i needed it !

T Touch is amazing and you will learn so much. Is Sarah Fisher the instructor ?

T Touch ground work is very different from going on a walk.

 

[Janique]

Ok thanks you Teaselmeg,

I am now looking forwards to it, the insctructor is Lisa Leigh, a Swiss lady.

I guess, it was frightened to look like a idiot with my strong headed Basset...

 

[Jenko109]

Advert for 12yo Lurcher

Zac is a loving dog, we rescued him 6 years ago. But unfortunately our circumstances have changed now we have a toddler.
Zac loves all the cuddles and attention.
We don’t want any payment for Zac just a loving home for him.
He is an older dog but he’s got so much life still and loves walks and running. He’s just need that home he can retire in.

seriously? How much trouble can an elderly lurcher be. So sad.

 

[skinnydipper]

Advert for 12yo Lurcher

Zac is a loving dog, we rescued him 6 years ago. But unfortunately our circumstances have changed now we have a toddler.
Zac loves all the cuddles and attention.
We don’t want any payment for Zac just a loving home for him.
He is an older dog but he’s got so much life still and loves walks and running. He’s just need that home he can retire in.

seriously? How much trouble can an elderly lurcher be. So sad.

Poor boy, he is probably best out of there. I hope he finds a lovely home.

 

[Teaselmeg]

Advert for 12yo Lurcher

Zac is a loving dog, we rescued him 6 years ago. But unfortunately our circumstances have changed now we have a toddler.
Zac loves all the cuddles and attention.
We don’t want any payment for Zac just a loving home for him.
He is an older dog but he’s got so much life still and loves walks and running. He’s just need that home he can retire in.

seriously? How much trouble can an elderly lurcher be. So sad.

Just how on earth can you do that , I suspect there is more to it The dog should at least go back to the rescue he came from.

 

[CorvusCorax]

A couple of good ones today. A teeny tiny elderly cute Pom with no collar outside my garden gate this morning, owner miles away up the track, my dog was very good and decided against trying to eat him, he stopped to do a teeny tiny cute dump as his owner roared BARNEY BARNEY BARNEY after him.

Then tonight some girls with yellow labs who arrived while I was doing food circuits on the green and used a ball wanger to wang balls and said labs right at us. Again, dog seems to be in a good mood tonight so we used it to train heelwork under distraction.

 

[Caol Ila]

Yeah, people are oblivious.

There is a regular dog walker in Mugdock. The good news is that his dog doesn't give a sh1t about horses and actually seems pretty well trained. The bad news is that the owner has a particular knack for throwing a stick at said dog at the most inopportune times and angles when horses are passing. It means dog is suddenly popping out from behind a bush or shooting out of nowhere behind a corner or firing into the loch like stealth missile. My horses are pretty tolerant of this crap, but a prey animal is a prey animal. Everytime I see him, I think, "Hold onto your butts." What movie was that line from?

Edited to add: before anyone says, why don't you talk to him? I have! I did once try to point out that horses can spook at a dog shooting out of the woods, 'cause prey animals, so if he wouldn't throw his stick as we were passing, that would be ideal. Blank. Stare. And then he pointed out in a grumpy Glaswegian way (if you know what I mean, you know what I mean) that his dog wouldn't bother with the horse. Great, but not the point. And he still throws his stick whenever he wants.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Jurassic...uh...Park

 

[Caol Ila]

Jurassic...uh...Park

Yes, that's it! Well done.

 

[Smitty]

I used to encounter dog walkers on a tree lined bridlepath that thought it best to try and conceal themselves, just off the track in ths undergrowth, so that they didn't frighten the horse. It never seemed to work ...

 

[fiwen30]

I shouldn’t look on gumtree, I should know better by now.

7 year old cocker spaniel needs rehomed.

‘Family dog unfortunately needing rehomed as our toddler has developed an allergy to dog hair.

Pedigree breeding, house trained, vaccinated, neutered and chipped. Loves long walks and cuddles.’

7 years of being a member of the family, and those are the only 2 lines the poor soul gets. Those scant few words to sum up a 7 year old dog, with it’s own personality, quirks, and experiences.

It looks so sweet, and it’s breaking my heart.

 

[Jenko109]

**
Ace is an 18 month old Black/Brindle Cane Corso. He's not yet neutered. He is also, very reactive. He could be considered a “project dog”, as he does need a lot of work. He is however, an absolute gentle giant to those he knows and loves.


Since birth, Ace has always been a nervous/reactive dog. He grew up with his brother and they used to play fight a lot (which is normal). However, Ace then believed that this is how you play nice with other dogs, by nipping. And he's never really got past that. He doesn't know how to play nicely with other dogs. He nips other dogs, in order to get them to run, so he can play chase.


Due to his reactivity and nervousness (he used to lunge at strangers and other animals), Ace has recently returned from a 3 month training camp that specialises in reactive dogs. Upon his return, he's much better with strangers, but still reacts towards other dogs. To re-iterate, he's never bitten another dog aggressively (with the intention of hurting), he just nips.


This is a very difficult decision and made with a very heavy heart. He's a gentle giant with those he knows and loves. He's grown up with my 3 children (who are now aged between 6 and 13) and also lived with his brother and an older Labrador since having him as a pup. He is fully house trained and I want to find him a loving home, but also the right home. A "must have" is a large garden and someone that can commit to daily, lengthy exercise with him.


Due to a change in circumstances for myself, I'm now living in a flat with Ace, which is no good for him. He needs a house and a garden. Also, with my job, I'm required to travel more - my parents look after Ace but he's just to powerful for them to walk, so this isn't a long term solution either.


For those that may be interested, you will need to have experience of owning a similar dog as he needs a strong leader. If you are unfamiliar with this breed, please do some research before messaging, to make sure you are a good fit with him.


Ace would suit a dog trainer / behaviourist or someone with a lot of land perhaps


**Update**
Ace was due to be rehomed. However, the new owners gave him just 3 hours to adjust to new people and in strange surroundings, and understandably, out of fear and anxiety, Ace showed some aggression as was just so confused. This put the potential new owners off and Ace is now available again. I can’t re-iterate enough, just how difficult Ace will be. He’s reactive, can show signs of aggression when pushed, and though he’s generally good with people. He will need an owner that understands all of this and willing to have the time and patience to create a bond with him. Please read and understand this before messaging, this will not be easy for the first few weeks of owning him.**

Gawd. What a mess.

 

[Caol Ila]

**
Ace is an 18 month old Black/Brindle Cane Corso. He's not yet neutered. He is also, very reactive. He could be considered a “project dog”, as he does need a lot of work. He is however, an absolute gentle giant to those he knows and loves.


Since birth, Ace has always been a nervous/reactive dog. He grew up with his brother and they used to play fight a lot (which is normal). However, Ace then believed that this is how you play nice with other dogs, by nipping. And he's never really got past that. He doesn't know how to play nicely with other dogs. He nips other dogs, in order to get them to run, so he can play chase.


Due to his reactivity and nervousness (he used to lunge at strangers and other animals), Ace has recently returned from a 3 month training camp that specialises in reactive dogs. Upon his return, he's much better with strangers, but still reacts towards other dogs. To re-iterate, he's never bitten another dog aggressively (with the intention of hurting), he just nips.


This is a very difficult decision and made with a very heavy heart. He's a gentle giant with those he knows and loves. He's grown up with my 3 children (who are now aged between 6 and 13) and also lived with his brother and an older Labrador since having him as a pup. He is fully house trained and I want to find him a loving home, but also the right home. A "must have" is a large garden and someone that can commit to daily, lengthy exercise with him.


Due to a change in circumstances for myself, I'm now living in a flat with Ace, which is no good for him. He needs a house and a garden. Also, with my job, I'm required to travel more - my parents look after Ace but he's just to powerful for them to walk, so this isn't a long term solution either.


For those that may be interested, you will need to have experience of owning a similar dog as he needs a strong leader. If you are unfamiliar with this breed, please do some research before messaging, to make sure you are a good fit with him.


Ace would suit a dog trainer / behaviourist or someone with a lot of land perhaps


**Update**
Ace was due to be rehomed. However, the new owners gave him just 3 hours to adjust to new people and in strange surroundings, and understandably, out of fear and anxiety, Ace showed some aggression as was just so confused. This put the potential new owners off and Ace is now available again. I can’t re-iterate enough, just how difficult Ace will be. He’s reactive, can show signs of aggression when pushed, and though he’s generally good with people. He will need an owner that understands all of this and willing to have the time and patience to create a bond with him. Please read and understand this before messaging, this will not be easy for the first few weeks of owning him.**

Gawd. What a mess.

Cool. A reactive guarding breed with no social skills. Sign me up.

 

[Janique]

I am following a Basset owner group and someone posted that their 4 years old bitch had to be restricted
of her water intake at night.

She even broke a door to get to the water apparently ! She will do anything to get to water....

When i asked them why she was restricted, they replied that if they let her, she would drinks buckets and pee everywhere during the night.

So they simply, shut her off and no water from 7pm till the morning.

I suggested that it might be a good idea for her to see a vet but they replied that it wasn't necessary....

Some people don't deserve to have dogs.....

 

[BigRedDog]

I used to encounter dog walkers on a tree lined bridlepath that thought it best to try and conceal themselves, just off the track in ths undergrowth, so that they didn't frighten the horse. It never seemed to work ...

I don’t think these dog walkers are being irresponsible, they are genuinely doing what they think is best. If this happens when I am out riding I say thank you for stepping off the path and explain the horses would rather see them than be worried about something they can’t see lurking in the trees. Have always had a positive response, thank you for explaining and they will know what to do in future.

 

[Caol Ila]

I don’t think these dog walkers are being irresponsible, they are genuinely doing what they think is best. If this happens when I am out riding I say thank you for stepping off the path and explain the horses would rather see them than be worried about something they can’t see lurking in the trees. Have always had a positive response, thank you for explaining and they will know what to do in future.

That happens so often my horses are used to it. I usually say to them, “There’s a guy and a dog lurking in the trees,” and I think they understand. Intent and meaning, if not English.

 

[skinnydipper]

I don’t think these dog walkers are being irresponsible, they are genuinely doing what they think is best. If this happens when I am out riding I say thank you for stepping off the path and explain the horses would rather see them than be worried about something they can’t see lurking in the trees. Have always had a positive response, thank you for explaining and they will know what to do in future.

I didn't know until I read it on the forum that it's best to stand in view. Previously I thought I was being helpful keeping off the path to allow them to pass.

Now there is the problem that although my dog waits quietly at my side for them to pass, she is a big dog which some horses seem to find unsettling and we have had horses who are reluctant to come past, or go into reverse, or skitter about sideways, while we are waiting patiently.

Sometimes you can't win.

 

[Smitty]

I don’t think these dog walkers are being irresponsible, they are genuinely doing what they think is best. If this happens when I am ou riding I say thank you for stepping off the path and explain the horses would rather see them than be worried about something they can’t see lurking in the trees. Have always had a positive response, thank you for explaining and they will know what to do in future.

Apologies, it was not meant as a criticism, or a serious comment, more empathy for Carol Ila, and I used to ask them nicely not to do it if I could get to them in time . I think some of them were just scared of horses and needed to get as far away as possible. I didn't mean to suggest they were being irresponsible, far from it.

 

[splashgirl45]

Saw someone from my village today who told me her dog had been attacked quite badly by a rottie.. apparently her dog, a lab was off lead and ran up to the on lead Rottie who then bit him which needed stitches.. I tried to say in a nice way it was her fault for allowing her bouncy lab to jump on the Rottie, she couldn’t see why it was a problem as her dog is friendly !!!!! I give up

 

[YorksG]

We had a lot of that when we had the rotters, without our dogs biting anyone else's, but that was down to their nice nature rather than anything else!
The number of idiots who just let their dogs mob the girls was astonishing

Saw someone from my village today who told me her dog had been attacked quite badly by a rottie.. apparently her dog, a lab was off lead and ran up to the on lead Rottie who then bit him which needed stitches.. I tried to say in a nice way it was her fault for allowing her bouncy lab to jump on the Rottie, she couldn’t see why it was a problem as her dog is friendly !!!!! I give up

 

[KittenInTheTree]

I make a point of moving as far out of the way as is possible with my dogs whenever I see horses approaching, and I'll keep on doing so, since I prefer to keep my dogs well out of hoof range, thanks all the same. Let's not pretend that any of you would pay the vet bill for me, or that a random hoof to the head would even be survivable to begin with!

 

[Gloi]

I make a point of moving as far out of the way as is possible with my dogs whenever I see horses approaching, and I'll keep on doing so, since I prefer to keep my dogs well out of hoof range, thanks all the same. Let's not pretend that any of you would pay the vet bill for me, or that a random hoof to the head would even be survivable to begin with!

Once the horses and riders have seen you. You can get off the path as far as you like. It's people suddenly spotted hiding behind bushes that are a pita.

 

[Amymay Again]

I make a point of moving as far out of the way as is possible with my dogs whenever I see horses approaching, and I'll keep on doing so, since I prefer to keep my dogs well out of hoof range, thanks all the same. Let's not pretend that any of you would pay the vet bill for me, or that a random hoof to the head would even be survivable to begin with!

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you shouldn't move out of the way. Just let your presence be known. All it takes is a cheery 'hello'.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Was met in my lane by the most delightful, affectionate young Doodle. Owner miles away.
Hung around to perhaps offer some friendly advice but turns out it was the new dog of someone I know fairly well/local businessman/lives down the street.
I did mention in a roundabout way that my young female is very defensive around the house and wasn't it lucky she wasn't out with me when said dog gambolled over to me!
Anyone could have walked off with him/put him in a car and buggered off.

 

[Smitty]

I don't get it, a lovely young whippet tried to jump in my car when I visited a friend. Turned out it belonged to her next door neighbour but just kind of hung around in the lane.

Another day I was followed by a delightful little JR when walking in the countryside. According to the two passing riders she turned around and went with, she belonged to their livery yard.

I wonder if some people don't see the value of a dog, or if they are just living in the past when a lot of dogs roamed.

 

[CorvusCorax]

I don't get it, a lovely young whippet tried to jump in my car when I visited a friend. Turned out it belonged to her next door neighbour but just kind of hung around in the lane.

Another day I was followed by a delightful little JR when walking in the countryside. According to the two passing riders she turned around and went with, she belonged to their livery yard.

I wonder if some people don't see the value of a dog, or if they are just living in the past when a lot of dogs roamed.

This guy's old terrier used to roam (and is the reason I had to put wire mesh on my gates when my female was in season as the dog walked the whole way up here and let himself into the garden). But it was old, this new dog is a puppy, like Tigger, on cocaine. I don't even think he had a leash.

 

[Caol Ila]

Today’s win goes for the French bulldog who came barrelling at full pelt behind my horse, plainly on a mission to hurl itself at the large four-legged herbivore. Luckily horse didn’t really react. I spun her round and shouted some R-rated words (sorry to the parents of young kids in earshot) and did my best Malcolm Tucker death stare (and swearing) whilst waving my dressage whip like I was a maniac with a sword.

Dog stopped dead and stared at this mad two headed screaming alien and reconsidered its choices. Maybe like two or three minutes later, a sheepish owner came jogging along the trail, grabbed dog and muttered an apology. He got my death stare, then I continued on my way.

 

[Smitty]

This guy's old terrier used to roam (and is the reason I had to put wire mesh on my gates when my female was in season as the dog walked the whole way up here and let himself into the garden). But it was old, this new dog is a puppy, like Tigger, on cocaine. I don't even think he had a leash.

Ahh, got you, bit dim and didn't realise owner was around!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Ahh, got you, bit dim and didn't realise owner was around!

Eventually!!