Is anyone else not entirely convinced by the Horse Hoarders plight?

Urgh don't think I can even look at that fb site any longer - someone's comment about 'if his horses are well cared for etc etc then whose business is if he has them etc etc. Are these people completely blinkered and narrow minded?:mad:

Anyway thought I would repost this (put it on the original thread). The statement made along with the photo:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kl67j7
 
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Thanks for that moomin, pity it's hidden on twitter, which I don't do, and not on their own website? Still can't find where the pic is listed on the Facebook page.
 
competitiondiva said:
Thanks for that moomin, pity it's hidden on twitter, which I don't do, and not on their own website? Still can't find where the pic is listed on the Facebook page.
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No it's miles down somewhere now - I can't find it anymore, it was a few days ago and there were tons of posts on it. That pic was posted along with the statement.
 
competitiondiva said:
Found out now, apparently it had protein losing entropathy, which googling is caused by over use of brute or heavy parasitism!
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Yes and that usually causes chronic weight loss not rapid as Michelle is suggesting.

Either way, the horse was under no vet treatment by Clwyd whatsoever, and the heavy worm burden is most likely to have caused the PLE.
 
How interesting..the original comment made by Michelle or whoever runs that fb page, saying about the horse being one of Clwyds which had PLE, has now disappeared, and everyone is trying to be clever (:rolleyes:) saying that the pic is not linked to Clwyd's horses, and is nothing to do with him!

I love the fact they are trying to call Carthorse a troll - pmsl, the picture IS authentic, and it has been issued by the RSPCA on their fb site with the statement. :rolleyes:
 
Moomin1 said:
How interesting..the original comment made by Michelle or whoever runs that fb page, saying about the horse being one of Clwyds which had PLE, has now disappeared, and everyone is trying to be clever (:rolleyes:) saying that the pic is not linked to Clwyd's horses, and is nothing to do with him!

I love the fact they are trying to call Carthorse a troll - pmsl, the picture IS authentic, and it has been issued by the RSPCA on their fb site with the statement. :rolleyes:
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could you share that RSPCA page, not the link, on the Clwyd facebook page? I've just watched it again, the sad bit was when he said he thought of Michelle as a daighter :(
 
No sympathy at all as he let this horses breed and did nothing about their welfare and chucking food into the mud,20 horses went and he let 20 horses back on and had 1 filly foal killed and he wasn't even bothered about it,he's mentally ill and should be treated as such and the rest of the horses taken away.
 
absolutely incredible how hypocritical facebook pages and their mobs can be.

anyone remember those shires about a year ago that were being left to rot and a young lady vet saved a young filly that had fallen into a river and nearly drowned?

Cant remember the exact details now but there were photos of a herd of shire horses in a similar condition and people could not call the man responsible enough names or condemn him enough. Appalling etc etc yet when a poster called 'Richard Partington' posts a similar welfare case photo of a horse owned by Clywd Davies people are turning themselves inside out to defend the owner responsible and calling the poster a 'troll' for daring to bring it up.!!

Has the world gone blinking mad or have people just got very short memories? :confused:
 
Plenty of our causes that seem to not be mentioned hmmm.......no one held a gun and said have 52 horses...... Sorry charity begins at home...I did send three rugs and some money to a local charity the other day. Got such a nice message back from lady.... But not for someone with 52!

Would have thought rugs for feral horses was a fab idea...... Put in on today..... Can't get near it ever.....

Would rather give my money to horses in Egypt who exchange bits and make fleecy nosebands.... It makes their lives easier and these poor horses belong to people so poor they can't even eat themselves.
 
horsesatemychristmasmoney said:
could you share that RSPCA page, not the link, on the Clwyd facebook page? I've just watched it again, the sad bit was when he said he thought of Michelle as a daighter :(
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I won't get involved on that page, for personal reasons, but I can try and scroll down the RSPCA page and find it, then post the link on here if anyone else wants to put it on the Clwyd fb page.:)

https://twitter.com/rspca_official

I'm so rubbish at technology! Scroll down to the tweet at melissa_wright and the photo is there

Mm worrying that melissa_wright appears to think that because it's coat is 'shiny' it's not suffering! She obviously has more qualifications and veterinary knowledge than the independant vet who deemed these horses to be suffering.:rolleyes:
 
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ISHmad said:
Copied from the FB Page. See comment underneath re keeping the horses

t is with great pleasure and gratitude that Jaden Cornelious Fundraising has offered very kindly to accept Paypal donations for and on behalf of the Horse and Owner Help Center registered address:

18 FRIARSMEWS
BANGOR-ON- DEE
WREXHAM
WALES
LL13 0AX
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The registered address is that of her accountant . I know this as up until last year he was my accountant as well. ;)

I also know someone who has bought a horse from Clwyd (via Michelle).

He is indeed technically squatting in the property, but it is far from that straightforward. He has use of the land from the farmer which just happens to have that semi derelict house on it in which he resides. Officially he is squatting. Off the record he has full use of the property, and land, with the full blessing of the land owner.
 
BoxCleva said:
The registered address is that of her accountant . I know this as up until last year he was my accountant as well. ;)
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slightly confused.

Is Jaden Cornelious Fundraising an actual charity or is the money they're asking for going directly to Michelle's accountant?

edited: ah, ok sorry thnk i understand now, said accountant has set up this 'Horse and owner' charity for michelle.
sound like an excellent idea. I wonder if they'd like to give me some? I am officially a horse owner after all :)
 
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That is unclear.

The donations go to JC as he has a Paypal account. The funds should then be passed to Michelle to administer on Clwyd's behalf. What happens after that I don't know.
 
didnt see the programme but from face book and internet info it is soundin like the rspca has gone in rightly or wrongly. now face book and jcfunding are collecting much money/donation of food/ work etc. now seeming to smell like scamming to me. shame no one on this forum felt the compassion when sticking the knife into friends of champ in henley in arden last year. very similar situation. only her name was/is not michelle..
 
ofcourseyoucan said:
didnt see the programme but from face book and internet info it is soundin like the rspca has gone in rightly or wrongly. now face book and jcfunding are collecting much money/donation of food/ work etc. now seeming to smell like scamming to me. shame no one on this forum felt the compassion when sticking the knife into friends of champ in henley in arden last year. very similar situation. only her name was/is not michelle..
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I remember that, another ramshackle disaster of a 'rescue'.:(

The only reason people are rallying around is because they basically are glory hunting! The mass hysteria has set in and like a herd of sheep they blindly follow suit without looking at the cold hard facts.

I do wonder if it had been WHW who had (if the did do them) brought the prosecution whether a) there would have been a documentary made in the first place, and b) whether all of these Clwyd fans would see him in the same light and offer the same support then. It strikes me many of them are doing it because they have a point to make against the RSPCA, which really is shocking considering they are not thinking about the poor horses which have suffered at the hands of this man.:(
 
Moomin1 said:
Yes it's quite funny how Michelle is Clwyd's saviour and yet she still charges him £35 pw livery!
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and be saving a wedge on having to buy a lot of wormers and rugs now the public are happy emptying their purses and tack rooms for her.

Maybe thats unfair of me though, is she a registered horse charity?
 
lula said:
and be saving a wedge on having to buy a lot of wormers and rugs now the public are happy emptying their purses and tack rooms for her.

Maybe thats unfair of me though, is she a registered horse charity?
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I don't think so, but not 100% sure. Either way, I have little time for 'rescues' which take on more than they can afford.
 
Moomin1 said:
Yes it's quite funny how Michelle is Clwyd's saviour and yet she still charges him £35 pw livery!
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This was what I didn't like- if she needed to charge him, 35 is quite steep for a 'rescue'- she loaded 3 on to take to her yard in the programme- £150 a week- no wonder she was panicking about the RSPCA coming back when he had the 10 TBs on the land- worried her cash cow was going to be taken away! :rolleyes:
 
Lol, they've got some crackers on that fb site!!

There's someone thinking they are so clever now and saying that the photo posted is actually Richard Partington's own private album, and they have downloaded the photos, taken a reg number of a van seen in one photo, believing Richard Partington to be an RSPCA officer, in order to report them to the RSPCA!! :D:D:D I would love to be a fly on the wall when they get the answer of 'err, yes, that is our twitter photograph album' !!!! :D

Can't believe how hell bent some people are to believe his innocence!:eek:
 
competitiondiva said:
Found out now, apparently it had protein losing entropathy, which googling is caused by over use of brute or heavy parasitism!
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Our yard lost a young horse to this. It was caused by an eruption of encysted immature redworm, and the horse went from perfectly OK to deaths door in 48 hours. Very very scary. In his case it was caused by resistance to moxidectin allowing the redworm to flourish. He clung on for another three weeks with intensive vet support but eventually lost his fight.

Unfortunately I don't think that resistance to wormers was the issue in this case (because they would have actually had to have had some....), but I thought I ought to post my experience as I would hate for people to be complacent about redworm. It is a very very serious problem, it can be very sudden in onset, it is not just confined to neglect cases, and there is no test for the immature worms as they are not mature enough to lay eggs. Young horses are particularly at risk, and with resistance growing to the only two wormers that deal with the issue even having a good worming programme may not save the horse. Sometimes worming the horse can trigger an attack, as clearing the gut of adult mature worms can act as a 'call to arms' to those buried beneath and then they all erupt en masse.

The symptoms are lethargy, extreme weight loss, and swollen body parts caused by the leaking protein. Don't ever think that just because a horse looks 'well' that it doesn't have worms.
 
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