meleeka
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Sorry to read this update 
. Has anything about her management changed? Keeping everything crossed xx
. Has anything about her management changed? Keeping everything crossed xx
Laminitis with no improvement
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PurBee
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Sorry to hear your update. As a last ditch attempt id whip off the shoes and get in an experienced lami remedial podiatrist barefoot trimmer to trim back the leverage on the long toes via xrays, and boot her with pads to offer stimulation and flow to the hoof, while continuing with pain strategies from your new vet.
AmyMay
Situation normal
I’d been wondering how she’d been getting on. Sorry to hear of the deterioration.
Pinkvboots
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Sorry about that how disappointing
PSD
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Thank you everyone.
with regards to doing anything more I’m not really keen on the idea of putting her through anything else now, if the x rays reveal she has worsened then I will be having her pts as it just wouldn’t be fair to keep attempting to do things and hope they work. I’m gutted as she was really picking up, all her management has stayed the same. I’m not really sure what is going on with her but I’m not prepared to prolong it if things aren’t improving. She’s being x rayed tomorrow
with regards to doing anything more I’m not really keen on the idea of putting her through anything else now, if the x rays reveal she has worsened then I will be having her pts as it just wouldn’t be fair to keep attempting to do things and hope they work. I’m gutted as she was really picking up, all her management has stayed the same. I’m not really sure what is going on with her but I’m not prepared to prolong it if things aren’t improving. She’s being x rayed tomorrow
Roxylola
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Sorry it's not better news for you. For what it is worth I think you are making a good decision, to x ray and make your choice from there. Much love, it's not an easy choice
AmyMay
Situation normal
Good luck. And in your shoes I’d be doing the same.
Errin Paddywack
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So sorry to hear this, such a shame when she was doing so well.
PSD
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It’s been a long 3 months for her. If things are worsening it’s not fair on her to keep her going for the sake of “it may work”. To me, if she’s getting worse at this point then things are very unlikely to improve
holeymoley
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Sorry to hear this. It’s a very difficult time as well to be treating. I don’t know if we would have made it last year if it was the same climate as we’re in just now.
holeymoley
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I know you don’t want to treat if the xrays prove worse, however, I will say my guy went good, then bad, then good then bad. It was a rollercoaster in itself. One the trim’s corrected, especially with severe rotation they can have a build up of gas or dead matter inside the hoof which will present like an abscess. My guy had 3- two small ones on one foot which he wasn’t obviously lame on and then 1 huge one on the other hoof. The two small ones were cut out by the farrier on each shoeing and the big one required a vet visit for him to pair it away and pack. Once they had blown then it was the proper path to recovery.
View
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Sorry to hear this, but I think your plan to x-ray and make a decision is sensible. I also think drawing your red line that you won't cross is a good plan. I sometimes look at the efforts made to "save" a much loved horse or other animal and think just because we can doesn't mean we should.
Quality, not quantity.
Quality, not quantity.
deepsoftheavy
Member
My horse had frequent abscesses so it could be that.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
sorry she has gone downhill, i think you are doing the right thing for her, hope its good news tomorrow, fingers crossed for you
PSD
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Hi all update for you
so they took her x rays and there has been a huge improvement with the rotation on her worst leg. It’s gone from 10 degrees to 4, however there is some shadowing on her x ray that suggests a deep abscess which does explain the pain she’s been having so we’re treating that with poultices and fingers crossed it will rear it’s ugly head. The farrier tried to have a bit of a root but obviously she’s in pain so didn’t want to do too much. The left fore is still the same so no worse or better degrees wise however the fact she isn’t worse is promising.
so just hoping this abscess is in fact an abscess and we can draw it downwards and she will feel a lot better from that once it’s gone. So things are looking positive despite the blip, thank you for reassuring me everyone. It’s a tough time and such an emotional rollercoaster
so they took her x rays and there has been a huge improvement with the rotation on her worst leg. It’s gone from 10 degrees to 4, however there is some shadowing on her x ray that suggests a deep abscess which does explain the pain she’s been having so we’re treating that with poultices and fingers crossed it will rear it’s ugly head. The farrier tried to have a bit of a root but obviously she’s in pain so didn’t want to do too much. The left fore is still the same so no worse or better degrees wise however the fact she isn’t worse is promising.
so just hoping this abscess is in fact an abscess and we can draw it downwards and she will feel a lot better from that once it’s gone. So things are looking positive despite the blip, thank you for reassuring me everyone. It’s a tough time and such an emotional rollercoaster
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meleeka
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Phew I’m so pleased she’s not any worse. Fingers crossed for puss ?
Jeni the dragon
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Really glad things are improving!
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
thank goodness there is an answer to the pain problem. you are doing a great job to get her this far and i hope she can have a good quality of life once all this is sorted. IMO quality of life is the most important consideration so you will have to make a decision once she has stabilised. whatever you do i am sure you will be doing what you feel is best for her sodont worry about what anyone else says. good luck
PSD
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I fully agree. If she’s able to go out and just be happy and comfortable then I’m more than happy for that to happen. Even if it’s just walking in hand and a few hours turnout she’ll be more than happy with that. I’m feeling really positive after today’s results so hopefully it will continue moving forward this way
holeymoley
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That’s to be expected with the rotation. Feel free to message if you need any help or just want to talk about it, my poor guy had three lots so we’ve had our run of it!
PSD
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thank you, It’s so worrying when you see them go downhill so quickly!
Ceriann
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So pleased the x rays were positive and you have an answer for the pain. You and she deserve a break.
deepsoftheavy
Member
It was such a learning curve for me. I had never had a horse with an abscess before and then, suddenly, they kept coming. But we had much more severe rotation than you (in one foot). Even though the abscess itself is worrying the x rays sound positive.An incredibly cruel disease xx
PSD
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I visited late this evening to check on her and she seemed pretty fed up. She was totally planned out lay down but she’s had a lot go on today bless her. Really hoping she picks up in the next couple of days as the results we wanted are coming but she just isn’t right at all
throughtheforest
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I really feel for you and any owner going through all this with their horse. Laminitis was a huge emotional rollercoaster for me over 18 months and mine was more complicated than just ems too. I believe they can make a full recovery if you know the causes and can manage these so they can have some degree of a normal life. Mine was completely sensitive to all grass in the end and we could not obtain the right facilities to be able to manage him to live a normal life which helped me make a decision. I wish you all the best and I really empathise with the emotional roller coaster as that was the hardest part of this cruel disease.
Pinkvboots
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So glad the rotation has improved hope she is feeling more comfortable soon fingers crossed for pus.
PSD
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Thank you so much for your well wishes and support I really do appreciate it.
a question for those who have dealt with laminitis, at what point do become concerned about how much they are down? She’s not up and down really just lay down quite a lot (however she does lie down when well) but this morning I’ve gone to her she’s so miserable. Stood at the back of her stable with her head down, I’ve given her the meds and she’s flat out again. Could this just be the medication making her fee rubbish? She won’t eat her hard feed (happy hoof molasses free) and won’t entertain her hay either (soaked for 12 hours). I’m reluctant to ring the vet as they’re obviously on skeleton staff and I don’t want to just ring them if her laying down is a normal thing. But at the same time if I need to be informing them I will do as soon as.
a question for those who have dealt with laminitis, at what point do become concerned about how much they are down? She’s not up and down really just lay down quite a lot (however she does lie down when well) but this morning I’ve gone to her she’s so miserable. Stood at the back of her stable with her head down, I’ve given her the meds and she’s flat out again. Could this just be the medication making her fee rubbish? She won’t eat her hard feed (happy hoof molasses free) and won’t entertain her hay either (soaked for 12 hours). I’m reluctant to ring the vet as they’re obviously on skeleton staff and I don’t want to just ring them if her laying down is a normal thing. But at the same time if I need to be informing them I will do as soon as.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
recumbency is not a normal thing, and generates it's own serious problems (as does not eating) please speak to your vet.
WandaMare
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I agree, I would give your vets a call, I'm sure they would prefer to know whats going on with her. My laminitic did lie down quite a lot, I think as well as resting his feet it was because he got bored and moochy while on box rest. He would often lie down for a couple of hours in the morning, then up for another pick of hay at lunchtime, 2 hours down again in the afternoon, then when i went out to check him in the evening he was sometimes lying down again by 10pm. Even when he became well enough to go out, he would still go back to his stable and lie down again in the daytime. He seemed happy in himself though and was eating ok.
be positive
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I think they vary, she will feel rubbish and by giving the feet a rest it may help as long as she does get up and change sides regularly with periods of being stood up, I would be concerned by her complete lack of appetite as eating nothing suggests she is giving up, see what the vet thinks, they may be on skeleton staff but she is undergoing treatment and they will be prepared to take your call.
Can you access any areas to pick some bits and bobs, obviously you don't want to feed lots of rich grass but a few handfuls may brighten her day, the goosegrass is growing and most love that, nettles pulled and wilted are enjoyed by some as are dandelions, just a few may help and they are all good in various ways, my pony used to get lots of 'weeds' when he was on box rest, as long as you know they are from a safe place it is worth a try.
Can you access any areas to pick some bits and bobs, obviously you don't want to feed lots of rich grass but a few handfuls may brighten her day, the goosegrass is growing and most love that, nettles pulled and wilted are enjoyed by some as are dandelions, just a few may help and they are all good in various ways, my pony used to get lots of 'weeds' when he was on box rest, as long as you know they are from a safe place it is worth a try.