Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
He is lovely, the type I would have gone for when I was looking BUT the nervous thing would make me say no. I wouldn't like to be in a situation on the road, for example, where he was 'nervous'.
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He is lovely, the type I would have gone for when I was looking BUT the nervous thing would make me say no. I wouldn't like to be in a situation on the road, for example, where he was 'nervous'.
AmyMay
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It would be a ‘no’ from me.
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SatansLittleHelper
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Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Rascal, the nervous grey IDx 5yo for which 'a confident rider is a must 
' was first listed for sale on 22 Feb.
As has been posted several times by folk up thread, the good ones fly off the shelves, so why is he still for sale? OP, aren't you are looking for a horse to give you confidence, not one which needs you to give it confidence?
' was first listed for sale on 22 Feb. As has been posted several times by folk up thread, the good ones fly off the shelves, so why is he still for sale? OP, aren't you are looking for a horse to give you confidence, not one which needs you to give it confidence?
Summit
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Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
That cob sounds fab, fun, hacks alone, generally a useful type. Not a bad price, I'd say, CHAPS registered which means sod all as they just tend to over stamp the passport, but showing is so fun!
SatansLittleHelper
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Is it wrong that I keep wondering how long it would take to grow all his hair back?! 🙈🙈
Abi90
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It’s a shame you aren’t further North as Jack Thomas Watson often has sensible IDx types in with he more sportier horses. He used to be a bit of a cheeky used car sales man type but he’s upped his game a lot, has the horses for longer and really knows them. Was just thinking that these guys looked nice and sensible, one was described as “too slowâ€
I know Jack quite well now and he sold (sort of gave) me my fab IDx mare
I know Jack quite well now and he sold (sort of gave) me my fab IDx mare
DabDab
Ah mud, splendid
Don't know if this one might be a bit little, but if Worcester isn't too far for you then might be worth going to see:
https://www.horsemart.co.uk/15-2hh-fun-allrounder/Horses/564584?op=photos
https://www.horsemart.co.uk/15-2hh-fun-allrounder/Horses/564584?op=photos
Ellzbellz97
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Rascal, the nervous grey IDx 5yo for which 'a confident rider is a must
As has been posted several times by folk up thread, the good ones fly off the shelves, so why is he still for sale? OP, aren't you are looking for a horse to give you confidence, not one which needs you to give it confidence?
I've seen him advertised about 10 times whilst scrolling through facebook, he's been up since January I believe as that is when I was looking!
Leo Walker
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I think I recommeneded him earlier. I would recommend him 100% He will have something in your budget. He offered to have me and my friend stay for the weekend and take us out hunting, no pressure to buy. He has a lot in, so will have something suitable and I've never heard a bad thing about him. Hes from my old neck of the woods, so if he was up to no good I'd have heard about it by now
Hormonal Filly
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I saw that one as well, think it was quoted a few page back. Looks a nice sturdy type.
Abi90
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He’s excellent and will have one or two up SLH’s street at least and horses up here are far cheaper down south. Plus Northumberland is wonderful so she could make a weekend of it!
SatansLittleHelper
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I'll check his page out, though a "weekend of it" is a no go sadly due to the dogs/parrots lol.
Looks like he's got some crackers though
A Sec D obsessed friend keeps telling me a big Sec D would be ideal but I've always thought of Welshies as being a bit scatty?? Thoughts??
Looks like he's got some crackers though
A Sec D obsessed friend keeps telling me a big Sec D would be ideal but I've always thought of Welshies as being a bit scatty?? Thoughts??
Hormonal Filly
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I'll check his page out, though a "weekend of it" is a no go sadly due to the dogs/parrots lol.
Looks like he's got some crackers though
A Sec D obsessed friend keeps telling me a big Sec D would be ideal but I've always thought of Welshies as being a bit scatty?? Thoughts??
Its completely down to the individual.. you can get spooky ones and safe ones, try and find a good one. I've owned my D for 4 years since a unbacked 3yr old. He is very brave in the heaviest of traffic, cows, sheep and great with things normal horses spook at even on his own, but anything new (on the ground) he'll be terrified of such as a new head collar (he knows its new!) or weird things. To hack alone hes great, he can be scatty but safe, such as he wouldn't 'do' anything he just might jump in the air. I quite like it as hes a fun ride but I am sure others would hate it and prefer a plod. Thats just him though.
I have a friend doing BE100 on her 6yr old pure Welsh D this year, brave as a Ox and is only 14.3 shes schooled her over Novice fences. Amazing.
They have the best personalities though and he is the cleverest horse I've ever owned.
Same as TBs.. I know some who are poor doers and nutty, then my friend has a 11yr old gelding who is a amazing doer fed virtually nothing over winter and chilled as anything. Thats just my opinion, I am sure others may think different.
I've never gone looking for a specific breed, just the horse in front of me. I didn't think i'd ever own a little tri coloured cob but I do and hes awesome.
Abi90
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I'll check his page out, though a "weekend of it" is a no go sadly due to the dogs/parrots lol.
Looks like he's got some crackers though
A Sec D obsessed friend keeps telling me a big Sec D would be ideal but I've always thought of Welshies as being a bit scatty?? Thoughts??
I would happily dog sit for you but I’m afraid I couldn’t parrot sit! I suppose a long day might be worth it if he has a couple in?
ihatework
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An overheight Welsh D would be the stamp you want.
However I wouldn’t go actively looking for one for you but equally wouldn’t discount one outright either( If it’s older and proving itself in the job you want, don’t be tempted by young)
However I wouldn’t go actively looking for one for you but equally wouldn’t discount one outright either( If it’s older and proving itself in the job you want, don’t be tempted by young)
Crazy_cat_lady
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I've got a D, never again!! I think they are definitely a case of you love or hate them. I've posted about my D further up the thread and I think someone else has as well. He is super comfy but has had potentially dubious upbringing before old yo who I brought him off got him so who knows if he would have been better if he hadn't had that.
He is very much a one person horse who likes routine. He has quite a set "window" for catching, if you're too late or too early you can jog on. Walking him down does not work, it makes him worse. Even if you go during his window if the grass is good and there are several others in the field, forget it. Someone new tries to get him- forget it even if its pouring down and he's cold. He's gone rogue for a whole week before, then just suddenly decided he wants to come in and stood at the gate calling.
He wouldn't hack alone when I got him however a lot of this I put down to his old owner (old yo who I worked for at the time) using him in the riding school so he was more used to going out in a group. I do regard it as a big achievement I got him hacking alone and now regularly hack alone, however anything that could be seen as heading towards nappiness I'm quick to nip it in the bud eg he is immediately pressed forward. However he was never nasty napping eg rearing just frozen, had he reared or spun I dont think I'd have had the confidence to work through it. It also involved a willing friend coming on foot or me getting off and leading him for a bit to get him moving
He is very spooky but not at normal things eg a white sack of fly tipping causes hesitation and him giving it a wide berth but that is to be expected. Flattened poo or mud on the road on the other hand is definitely the work of the devil and planted there to get him and kill him so there is no way he can possibly go over it- I had a job to get him over some muddy tyre tracks that were the width of the road the other day but no way was I giving in and turning round. Scuffed up sand in the school has also nearly led to teleportation. His hair on the floor after trimming is going to eat him. He will stand nicely while you trim his legs then all of a sudden decide you're going to attack him and there is no way you're getting near his legs. No nastiness just being a dickhead. Jumping he had a good jump. However again very spooky, especially fillers and would stop.Whether he would have been better with a better more confident rider who knows especially as it led me to start riding for the stop almost. I now don't jump.
He also wont load and I dont think he'd cope well in a new environment. I managed to clip him this winter with just cotton wool in his ears after previously needing iv sedation for it. He was fine the first time I did it the second he had an absolute meltdown over my trying to remove the cotton wool and ended up going round with it in his ear for a week as he wouldn't let anyone near it!
When I called up to insure him I described some of his traits and they said typical d an old instructor said their ears almost look like a pair of devil horns when they are pricked right forward!
I must add he is never nasty never looked like kicking me, never bitten etc, a lot of his reactions I think are down to fear. Sometimes I can just laugh at him But my word can it be infuriating at times and I would love something that's just straightforward and normal!
I'm sure this is just my own personal experience of one who's got a screw that's a bit loose but there are threads about them on here and I dont think I'm the only one! You may find a lovely one, I knew about his issues when I took him on as I loaned him at the time but he was a heart rather than head purchase
He is very much a one person horse who likes routine. He has quite a set "window" for catching, if you're too late or too early you can jog on. Walking him down does not work, it makes him worse. Even if you go during his window if the grass is good and there are several others in the field, forget it. Someone new tries to get him- forget it even if its pouring down and he's cold. He's gone rogue for a whole week before, then just suddenly decided he wants to come in and stood at the gate calling.
He wouldn't hack alone when I got him however a lot of this I put down to his old owner (old yo who I worked for at the time) using him in the riding school so he was more used to going out in a group. I do regard it as a big achievement I got him hacking alone and now regularly hack alone, however anything that could be seen as heading towards nappiness I'm quick to nip it in the bud eg he is immediately pressed forward. However he was never nasty napping eg rearing just frozen, had he reared or spun I dont think I'd have had the confidence to work through it. It also involved a willing friend coming on foot or me getting off and leading him for a bit to get him moving
He is very spooky but not at normal things eg a white sack of fly tipping causes hesitation and him giving it a wide berth but that is to be expected. Flattened poo or mud on the road on the other hand is definitely the work of the devil and planted there to get him and kill him so there is no way he can possibly go over it- I had a job to get him over some muddy tyre tracks that were the width of the road the other day but no way was I giving in and turning round. Scuffed up sand in the school has also nearly led to teleportation. His hair on the floor after trimming is going to eat him. He will stand nicely while you trim his legs then all of a sudden decide you're going to attack him and there is no way you're getting near his legs. No nastiness just being a dickhead. Jumping he had a good jump. However again very spooky, especially fillers and would stop.Whether he would have been better with a better more confident rider who knows especially as it led me to start riding for the stop almost. I now don't jump.
He also wont load and I dont think he'd cope well in a new environment. I managed to clip him this winter with just cotton wool in his ears after previously needing iv sedation for it. He was fine the first time I did it the second he had an absolute meltdown over my trying to remove the cotton wool and ended up going round with it in his ear for a week as he wouldn't let anyone near it!
When I called up to insure him I described some of his traits and they said typical d an old instructor said their ears almost look like a pair of devil horns when they are pricked right forward!
I must add he is never nasty never looked like kicking me, never bitten etc, a lot of his reactions I think are down to fear. Sometimes I can just laugh at him But my word can it be infuriating at times and I would love something that's just straightforward and normal!
I'm sure this is just my own personal experience of one who's got a screw that's a bit loose but there are threads about them on here and I dont think I'm the only one! You may find a lovely one, I knew about his issues when I took him on as I loaned him at the time but he was a heart rather than head purchase
Meowy Catkin
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Not an easy horse CCL!
I did know a lovely sec D who would have suited SLH perfectly. A 16hh chestnut mare who was sweet tempered and a lovely ride. I first met her as I was asked to escort her (with my chestnut mare) during her early days of being hacked out. She was one of those who was just sensible through and through. I rode with her and her owner every now and again until I moved area, she never had any 'Kevins' that I knew of. She wasn't very 'typey' though and looked more like a cross than a purebred, but that was not an issue for the owner.
So sensible D's are out there
I did know a lovely sec D who would have suited SLH perfectly. A 16hh chestnut mare who was sweet tempered and a lovely ride. I first met her as I was asked to escort her (with my chestnut mare) during her early days of being hacked out. She was one of those who was just sensible through and through. I rode with her and her owner every now and again until I moved area, she never had any 'Kevins' that I knew of. She wasn't very 'typey' though and looked more like a cross than a purebred, but that was not an issue for the owner.
So sensible D's are out there
ester
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I have a 'safe' D, he is completely normal a lot of the time- but still sometimes isn't!
Summit
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I’d arrange cover for my animals and make a weekend if it. If he’s as good as he sounds, it’s worth the trip
tashcat
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Not sure if that will work, I'll edit in the description if not. I know you veered away from ones being too big after riding the shire, but perhaps worth a consider - looks a fab sort!
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CALLING ALL NOVICE HUSBANDS!!!
DUDE - 18HH, 12YO, ID X, GELDING.
Dude by name, Dude by nature - a big, genuine, novice ride. Ridden by all types of rider this chap hasn't a nasty bone in his body.
Has experience in all disciplines having competed unaffiliated with previous owners.
Never bucks, rears. bolts or naps.
This chap is worth his weight in gold to somebody in need of a big confidence giver.
Priced cheaply at £3000.
Offers considered for ease of sale.
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(Sorry OP, definitely not labelling you a novice husband! )
Not sure if that will work, I'll edit in the description if not. I know you veered away from ones being too big after riding the shire, but perhaps worth a consider - looks a fab sort!
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CALLING ALL NOVICE HUSBANDS!!!
DUDE - 18HH, 12YO, ID X, GELDING.
Dude by name, Dude by nature - a big, genuine, novice ride. Ridden by all types of rider this chap hasn't a nasty bone in his body.
Has experience in all disciplines having competed unaffiliated with previous owners.
Never bucks, rears. bolts or naps.
This chap is worth his weight in gold to somebody in need of a big confidence giver.
Priced cheaply at £3000.
Offers considered for ease of sale.
**
(Sorry OP, definitely not labelling you a novice husband!
)
SatansLittleHelper
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It's just not possible I'm afraid.
Tashcat, he looks fab doesnt he? But I think that name is on the dodgy dealers black list....plus if I turned up at the field with an 18 hander I'm pretty sure the landlord would kill me 😂😂😂😂😂
ester
Not slacking multitasking
VERY dodgy dealers black list
gunnergundog
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Dodgy dealer or not it is WAY too big!
Your post no 570, says you couldn't cope with the 17.1hh that you tried and were now sticking to 16.2/3hh max.
Remember what it is you NEED, not WANT!
Your post no 570, says you couldn't cope with the 17.1hh that you tried and were now sticking to 16.2/3hh max.
Remember what it is you NEED, not WANT!
tashcat
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Oops!! Sorry SLH definitely a no go!😂
LaurenBay
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Stay clear of Dude! it is Ricky Sawyer, trading under yet another name and is as dodgy as they come.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Maisie does exist but is a front for Ricky Sawyer/George whichever name he fancies using... It's him riding in the pics.
merlin84
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That trip up to Northumberland sounds good- that seller seems to have lots of horses with height and bone. Not hairy though which you were keen on?