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Beaudec said:
Tyler is an exceptional rider and coach, having trained several horses to international GP from scratch. They are all happy, easy horses that do a variety of work including sj and xc and are easy enough for more novice riders! That is really quite rare and true testimony to Tyler’s management and horsemanship.

In my opinion and from what I can see, the condition of the horses is really quite poor. No, they aren’t emaciated but the dramatic and rapid loss of top line and overall coverage is quite evident, often caused by stress. The withers should not resemble a shark fin!
Very sad that so many horse owners cannot recognise this!
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Absolutely, and not the condition a horse who is training at the higher levels should be in! A newly backed 4 year old possibly! But not at that age and stage!
 
Lots of us are muddled on here as to who is being referred to much of the time due to the need for smoke and mirrors to stop getting the thread pulled 🙃.

What does seem to be true is that a GoFundMe recipient can’t automatically refund all donors if circumstances change and the money is no longer needed for the stated cause. The donors need to be refunded individually one at a time.

So far according to GFM there are 2.8k individual donations, and the donations continue to flood in, often in amounts less than £25.

Current total (midday Thurs 15/1/26) is £59,445.
 
ester said:
I mean that also wasn’t who IHW was talking about
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I mean having looked back through the thread I still think it was 🤷‍♀️
Nevertheless, I don’t think it was a very kind or necessary comment and to give credit where it’s due, had it been referring to the other person in the discussion, she is also very talented rider who many look up to.
 
Yes, MD has said that anything not refunded can go to charities that donors vote for. This is fair enough, donors are capable of understanding the GFM terms and making their own choices.
 
Ambers Echo said:
Milly D has said it will be given to charity if she does not buy the horse.
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Rugs / physio / content aren't what most folks think of as charity, especially if the money goes into your own bank account and then buys rugs etc for your own horses. All credit to her if she hands it over to a bona fida actual registered charity and they acknowledge receipt of the money.
 
nutjob said:
Rugs / physio / content aren't what most folks think of as charity, especially if the money goes into your own bank account and then buys rugs etc for your own horses. All credit to her if she hands it over to a bona fida actual registered charity and they acknowledge receipt of the money.
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She says it will go to charities that donors vote for..
 
Caski said:
Whatever the outcome, this debacle must be exceedingly damaging to MD and all connections surely?

So sad to see it really
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Well, I guess that was TB's intention when she posted - to damaage MD. TB probably assuming that MD can't afford to sue her for libel.
 
wills_91 said:
I'm confused by the time line I assumed the go find me video was filmed in the last week but other comments seem to be suggesting the horse is already with a new rider and being worked - which doesn't add up with the emmacciated claims -?! Who is TB & do they have any claim over the horse. All very odd. Hope the horse lands on his hooves!
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It's all got quite confusing!

Horse J: A different horse bred by TB and co-owned by LZ who now has the ride on him. Horse J was previously with MD.
TB: The person making the accusations. She bred Horse J and still co-owns him but has no connection with Olaf.
MD: Has Olaf and previously had the ride on Horse J.
LZ: Is the majority share-holder in Olaf and wants to sell. She also part-owns Horse J and currently has the ride on him.

In short TB has no investment/connection with Olaf. TB bred and still part-owns another horse: Horse J. Horse J is also part owned by the majority share owner of Olaf (LZ). Horse J was also with MD for a period of time and MD had the ride on Horse J. Horse J left MD's yard (circumstances unclear - LZ stated it was contractual terms had ended TB claims he was seized under welfare grounds) and Horse J went to LZ's yard and LZ now has the ride on him and is advertising for investment so she can keep the ride. TB has now come out and said that Horse J was actually removed, along with other horses, on welfare standards and was in 'dire condition' when she got him back. However the timeline of social media posts indicates Horse J was on LZ's yard and back in intensive training 1 week after arrival, not looking particularly emaciated.

TB is also calling out the condition of Olaf while he is with MD and saying he looks poor and claiming that one of the syndicate owners tried to remove him and was physically assaulted by MD which is the only reason he is still there. Olaf is still technically still with MD, but has apparently now been taken away to get his international papers to be sold abroad.
 
southerncomfort said:
They poster may have removed their own comments rather than TB being responsible.

I think TB has been a bit unwise. I can't be bothered to go and read it again, but I seem to remember her post began with the claim that horses had been 'seized' which i originally took to mean that a welfare charity had been involved, when in reality she was referring to the fact that she'd removed her own horse. Then claimed the horse was emaciated which it clearly wasn't.

The more I read, the more it all feels like a personal beef and probably should have been kept off SM. At least it did alert people thst the GFM may not have been what MD claimed i suppose.

What a mess!
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Possibly but there were several from different people that are all gone which is odd. The lady who posted about having her horse with MD in training alleged that TB was deleting her replies when she tried to clarify the dates her horse was with MD. She posted that she'd had to go back and edit her original post just to keep the dates visible because her follow-up comments kept being removed. The whole thread is now gone altogether.

I'd be disappointed if the comments had been manipulated to paint a certain rhetoric.
 
There is a little more to add to KikiDee's already thorough and clear recap... All details found easily on the internet/social media.

LZ owns the company (Philyrides, website accessible via Google) which sells/sold shares of horses, MD being the featured 'main rider'. Some of the details of horses available appear to be out of date.
LZ is currently asking for one or more people to buy shares in Horse J, as she wants to keep training him with sights set on the Olympics she writes. She also writes that she knows she has what it takes.
Horse J was with MD as he was known to be 'hot', and she was working to keep him calm and level. (This could account for him lacking the sort of musculature you'd expect for a horse doing advanced work at the time.)
Horse J was competing with MD (apparently unaffiliated, as no corresponding results on BD site) in August 2025, in at least one test including flying changes. Footage shared by MD shows relatively calm and soft changes.
LZ claims in November 2025 (after taking the ride of Horse J on), that his changes are not show ready.
LZ's video of Horse J in December 2025 show the horse completely set against the rider (LZ) in single flying changes, with her using alot of rein to hang onto him through the changes for a few strides.
Apparently though, TB claims Horse J has never looked better.

It all just seems like a business venture between young people gone a bit South, and alot of excessive accusations are being made in order that some of them save face.

ETA: MD has yesterday posted photos of 2 horses still with her looking healthy, content and shiny from all angles. A friend of hers posted a video of Olaf from all angles a day or two ago looking in similar condition. I think someone posted up thread or maybe on SM querying when the condition photos of the two horses taken from MD were taken - both horses shown as 'evidence' of how they looked with MD appear to have been travelled to Europe to LZ, and may well have lost condition on the way.

(I am guessing that Olaf is supposed to be going to LZ to be sold, and she is based in Europe, hence the trip there.)

I don't know any of these people, but there are alot of red flags for me in what has been shared publicly. I also haven't seen MD slating anyone else publicly.
 
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JTDAE said:
She says it will go to charities that donors vote for..
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She does not. She says

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If these rugs / physio / content are so that all horses at redwings / whw / bransby or some other actual charity can get new rugs and a physio treatment and content means supporting a charitys social media activities then this is an actual charity. If it's spent on rugs / physio for her own horses and her own social media content it isn't a charity. It reads to me that it's either going in her own pocket OR to a charity and we will see which it turns out to be.
 
Been directed to this thread. Havent read it all but i was present at the yard she was at previously and can confirm she did not look after her horses well regularly turning up very late in the day if at all and messaging others constantly to feed and hay them. This was done as noone wants to see horses hungry, but they did regularly stand in unmucked out stables. she rarely rode maybe once or twice a week max and only when a camera was present and she was skilled at presenting a very different persona online. she is a lovely rider, but no conscience or ability to look after horses properly and she was asked to leave. If she didnt have help at the new yard she went to i can understand how the horses would loose condition drastically with basic needs not met.
 
nutjob said:
She does not. She says

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If these rugs / physio / content are so that all horses at redwings / whw / bransby or some other actual charity can get new rugs and a physio treatment and content means supporting a charitys social media activities then this is an actual charity. If it's spent on rugs / physio for her own horses and her own social media content it isn't a charity. It reads to me that it's either going in her own pocket OR to a charity and we will see which it turns out to be.
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I agree that in this respect MD appears to being a little... Naive I think is the fairest word at this point. Naive if she thinks the wider public will accept this without having different opinions about whether this is appropriate or not.

There was understandable uproar about **'s GFM for H, and who knows where that money went.
 
IncaCola said:
Been directed to this thread. Havent read it all but i was present at the yard she was at previously and can confirm she did not look after her horses well regularly turning up very late in the day if at all and messaging others constantly to feed and hay them. This was done as noone wants to see horses hungry, but they did regularly stand in unmucked out stables. she rarely rode maybe once or twice a week max and only when a camera was present and she was skilled at presenting a very different persona online. she is a lovely rider, but no conscience or ability to look after horses properly and she was asked to leave. If she didnt have help at the new yard she went to i can understand how the horses would loose condition drastically with basic needs not met.
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But even this could be the result of a fallout between previous friends - if someone asked a friend if they minded doing xyz, friend assured them no of course it's ok, but then decided later on down the line they weren't friends any more for whatever reason, then it's easy for someone to spin the opposite tale to suit a new narrative.

People can be incredibly two-faced.
 
So, LZ removed Olaf, whom she does not completely own, from MD's yard where his syndicate had chosen to place him? That sounds dodgy to me and I feel sorry for the other syndicate members. They must be wondering how much of their money they will get back if LZ exports him to Europe to sell. Personally I'd be much more worried about this than I would about MD's crowdfunding!
 
IncaCola said:
Been directed to this thread. Havent read it all but i was present at the yard she was at previously and can confirm she did not look after her horses well regularly turning up very late in the day if at all and messaging others constantly to feed and hay them. This was done as noone wants to see horses hungry, but they did regularly stand in unmucked out stables. she rarely rode maybe once or twice a week max and only when a camera was present and she was skilled at presenting a very different persona online. she is a lovely rider, but no conscience or ability to look after horses properly and she was asked to leave. If she didnt have help at the new yard she went to i can understand how the horses would loose condition drastically with basic needs not met.
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I can vouch for IC if that means anything to anyone else on here.
 
PurpleSpots said:
But even this could be the result of a fallout between previous friends - if someone asked a friend if they minded doing xyz, friend assured them no of course it's ok, but then decided later on down the line they weren't friends any more for whatever reason, then it's easy for someone to spin the opposite tale to suit a new narrative.

People can be incredibly two-faced.
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Maybe as a one off but surely not over a long period?

I am probably biased as, whilst I don't know Milly, I am hearing things from people (that I know well and personally) connected with this that correspond with what IncaCola has said. I also know who IC is and would be inclined to believe them. They are knowledgeable and fair in my experience.
 
IncaCola said:
Been directed to this thread. Havent read it all but i was present at the yard she was at previously and can confirm she did not look after her horses well regularly turning up very late in the day if at all and messaging others constantly to feed and hay them. This was done as noone wants to see horses hungry, but they did regularly stand in unmucked out stables. she rarely rode maybe once or twice a week max and only when a camera was present and she was skilled at presenting a very different persona online. she is a lovely rider, but no conscience or ability to look after horses properly and she was asked to leave. If she didnt have help at the new yard she went to i can understand how the horses would loose condition drastically with basic needs not met.
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Genuine question but how on earth does she get the results she does only riding once a week? I can understanding getting away with that with the sales/schooling liveries perhaps - but not the competition horses?

Does she have other people who ride/school them for her?
 
Matafleur said:
Maybe as a one off but surely not over a long period?

I am probably biased as, whilst I don't know Milly, I am hearing things from people (that I know well and personally) connected with this that correspond with what IncaCola has said. I also know who IC is and would be inclined to believe them. They are knowledgeable and fair in my experience.
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Sure, and I'm not coming down on one side or the other, it's just in my nature to look behind what's being said as I know all too well how things can be twisted.
 
KikiDee said:
Genuine question but how on earth does she get the results she does only riding once a week? I can understanding getting away with that with the sales/schooling liveries perhaps - but not the competition horses?

Does she have other people who ride/school them for her?
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I would say that only riding once a week certainly concurs with the lack of muscle on her horses. She had a 57% in the prelim a few days ago according to her BD results so her results aren't exactly all that
 
Barklands said:
I would say that only riding once a week certainly concurs with the lack of muscle on her horses. She had a 57% in the prelim a few days ago according to her BD results so her results aren't exactly all that
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I'm not disputing a first-hand account I'm just genuinely curious, given the level her horses are schooled to and competing at - she must have someone else training them surely?
 
Barklands said:
I would say that only riding once a week certainly concurs with the lack of muscle on her horses. She had a 57% in the prelim a few days ago according to her BD results so her results aren't exactly all that
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And 64% at Novice on the same horse that same day...

I think this thread is tending towards defamation in places now.
 
PurpleSpots said:
But even this could be the result of a fallout between previous friends - if someone asked a friend if they minded doing xyz, friend assured them no of course it's ok, but then decided later on down the line they weren't friends any more for whatever reason, then it's easy for someone to spin the opposite tale to suit a new narrative.

People can be incredibly two-faced.
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I am not nor ever been friends with Milly. she was just at the same yard as me for several months and can only say how she behaved here. She never abused her horses, was gentle with them and was a good rider. Just neglect from not coming up to look after them adequately. She did not really compete much at all whilst here. i have no knowledge of the current situation although my yard owner is now a key witness in the evolving legal claim.
 
Barklands said:
For a rider who has ridden at PSG, 64% at novice isn't exactly wonderful either...
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Full competition record here: https://britishdressage.online/rider_results/34749

Horse in question a 6yo this time, was competing at Wellington for the first time with the two results mentioned. Has scored up to 74% with MD at Prelim.

Also had a lower than normal result first time out at another venue last year. Horses are not machines.

I just don't think you can slate someone's riding/competing based on singling out one online score randomly.
 
PurpleSpots said:
And 64% at Novice on the same horse that same day...

I think this thread is tending towards defamation in places now.
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With on possible exception, the posts on this thread aren't defamation - it's not defamation to state facts (e.g. results, even if they're selective) or to share opinions that are expressed as such. It's not helpful to cry defamation when most people are behaving fairly well.
 
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