Racing this weekend

AdorableAlice

AdorableAlice

Well-Known Member
Joined
24 October 2011
Messages
13,067
Visit site
Edwardstone declared tomorrow for a 42k 2 mile 4 chase in heavy ground. He won 37k in second place today in heavy ground.

No doubt he is fit and I understand horses do need to be multi entered, but is there a need to run a horse today and tomorrow in bottomless ground. I know flat horses will turn out quickly, but 5 furlongs on perfect ground is very different to slogging in the ground we have now and jumping fences.

Will he run?, how do the connections assess his physical well being, would they be scanning for instance ?
 
Carrottom

Carrottom

Well-Known Member
Joined
8 February 2018
Messages
2,002
Visit site
AdorableAlice said:
Edwardstone declared tomorrow for a 42k 2 mile 4 chase in heavy ground. He won 37k in second place today in heavy ground.

No doubt he is fit and I understand horses do need to be multi entered, but is there a need to run a horse today and tomorrow in bottomless ground. I know flat horses will turn out quickly, but 5 furlongs on perfect ground is very different to slogging in the ground we have now and jumping fences.

Will he run?, how do the connections assess his physical well being, would they be scanning for instance ?
Click to expand...
That's the problem with 48 hr decs, you have to declare for both to be able to choose.
 
C

Crazy_cat_lady

Well-Known Member
Joined
14 January 2012
Messages
7,538
Visit site
AdorableAlice said:
Edwardstone declared tomorrow for a 42k 2 mile 4 chase in heavy ground. He won 37k in second place today in heavy ground.

No doubt he is fit and I understand horses do need to be multi entered, but is there a need to run a horse today and tomorrow in bottomless ground. I know flat horses will turn out quickly, but 5 furlongs on perfect ground is very different to slogging in the ground we have now and jumping fences.

Will he run?, how do the connections assess his physical well being, would they be scanning for instance ?
Click to expand...

Surely he should be withdrawn, but will they?
 
Gamebird

Gamebird

Well-Known Member
Joined
26 April 2007
Messages
8,504
Visit site
He
AdorableAlice said:
Edwardstone declared tomorrow for a 42k 2 mile 4 chase in heavy ground. He won 37k in second place today in heavy ground.

No doubt he is fit and I understand horses do need to be multi entered, but is there a need to run a horse today and tomorrow in bottomless ground. I know flat horses will turn out quickly, but 5 furlongs on perfect ground is very different to slogging in the ground we have now and jumping fences.

Will he run?, how do the connections assess his physical well being, would they be scanning for instance ?
Click to expand...
He won't run. Declarations are 48hrs ahead, so they had to declare him on Friday in case Sandown was off today. He'll be listed as a non-runber tomorrow.

I did once have a horse who'd run (and won) on 2 consecutive days in Ireland, but they were both at the same track (so no extra travel), on reasonable ground, and weren't grade 1s!
 
E

Elf On A Shelf

...
Joined
28 February 2011
Messages
16,449
Visit site
AdorableAlice said:
Edwardstone declared tomorrow for a 42k 2 mile 4 chase in heavy ground. He won 37k in second place today in heavy ground.

No doubt he is fit and I understand horses do need to be multi entered, but is there a need to run a horse today and tomorrow in bottomless ground. I know flat horses will turn out quickly, but 5 furlongs on perfect ground is very different to slogging in the ground we have now and jumping fences.

Will he run?, how do the connections assess his physical well being, would they be scanning for instance ?
Click to expand...

Definitely won't run. It was a back up plan for if Sandown was off.

Some horses do run 2 days in a row - generally 2 milers, flat horses or ones that have travelled a long way and for some reason or another didn't complete a circuit of the track. On the 2nd day the BHA vets will trot the horse up and either declare it fit to race or they will spin it and won't allow it to run.

48 hour Dec's are great for the staff as it gives us an extra 24 hours to sort racing staff and kit - especially if you are going overnight.
 
AdorableAlice

AdorableAlice

Well-Known Member
Joined
24 October 2011
Messages
13,067
Visit site
Gamebird said:
He

He won't run. Declarations are 48hrs ahead, so they had to declare him on Friday in case Sandown was off today. He'll be listed as a non-runber tomorrow.

I did once have a horse who'd run (and won) on 2 consecutive days in Ireland, but they were both at the same track (so no extra travel), on reasonable ground, and weren't grade 1s!
Click to expand...
Thank you for the clarification, furthers my education !
 
H

humblepie

Well-Known Member
Joined
5 February 2008
Messages
7,148
Visit site
You will sometimes see horses declared for two races the same day as back up plans if somewhere is off. Trainer can be fined for double declaration depending on why doesn’t run at one of the races.
 
E

Elf On A Shelf

...
Joined
28 February 2011
Messages
16,449
Visit site
humblepie said:
You will sometimes see horses declared for two races the same day as back up plans if somewhere is off. Trainer can be fined for double declaration depending on why doesn’t run at one of the races.
Click to expand...

If its 2 different courses you have to state your first preference race. If it's 2 at the same track that's an f up on the trainers part and they get fixed.
 
Gamebird

Gamebird

Well-Known Member
Joined
26 April 2007
Messages
8,504
Visit site
Elf On A Shelf said:
El Fabiolo was impressive! Did it in a hack canter really for him.
Click to expand...
He's such an economical jumper. I guess that's half his speed! Paul picked up his stick once on the run in. I guess just to remind him not to idle. I'm probably biased but I think he won that better than Jonbon did yesterday.
 
E

Elf On A Shelf

...
Joined
28 February 2011
Messages
16,449
Visit site
Gamebird said:
He's such an economical jumper. I guess that's half his speed! Paul picked up his stick once on the run in. I guess just to remind him not to idle. I'm probably biased but I think he won that better than Jonbon did yesterday.
Click to expand...

To look at it was more impressive than Jonbon. But Jonbon had a vile bog to deal with yesterday whilst El F had slightly better ground that had only had 1 race on it. It will be interesting to see who has the better turn of foot on better ground.
 
B

bonny

Well-Known Member
Joined
17 September 2007
Messages
6,700
Visit site
Elf On A Shelf said:
To look at it was more impressive than Jonbon. But Jonbon had a vile bog to deal with yesterday whilst El F had slightly better ground that had only had 1 race on it. It will be interesting to see who has the better turn of foot on better ground.
Click to expand...
One of them is now odds on for the Champion Chase and it’s not Jonbon!
 
E

Elf On A Shelf

...
Joined
28 February 2011
Messages
16,449
Visit site
bonny said:
One of them is now odds on for the Champion Chase and it’s not Jonbon!
Click to expand...

I'm really not surprised after that there today. But I live in hope that Britain can get their hands on another major Cheltenham festival trophy this year 😂 I'd like to say we have the Champion Hurdle sown up but until we see CH again to confirm he is still the horse he has been I will hold off on being 100% certain and rather be 99% certain 😂
 
E

Elf On A Shelf

...
Joined
28 February 2011
Messages
16,449
Visit site
Brummyrat1 said:
Elf I was at Aintree on Saturday, had I known I'd have found you to say hi! The going was brutal
Click to expand...

Ah I had a minion to do all my leading up so I could stay in the back ground 🤣

The only saving grace for the ground was that it was wet and sloppy so they got through it easier than if it was drying a little a sticky and tacky. That takes more out of a horse than slop.
 
I

Indieanna6

Well-Known Member
Joined
8 June 2015
Messages
113
Visit site
Ahh brilliant, enjoy and give her a big pat from me! Apple was my first syndicate horse, which has led to a few others and me enjoying learning about racing 😊
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top