GinaGeo
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Thank You Rog! Have broken the news to the parents, plans are in motion for adding L-plates and going out on a quiet evening!
Big Thank You!
Big Thank You!
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Django Pony
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Quick question for you ROG, does having either a C or C1 mean you can tow a trailer as well, or would you have to do the trailer test separately?
Thanks
Thanks
ROG
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To tow any trailer over 750 kgs max MAM needs a +E on the licence with the exception of the 3500 kgs max MAM/GVW rule for B
Blythe Spirit
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HI there can i ask a question?
I intend to buy a horse box for taking my two horses to shows etc but as the combined weight of my horses is over a ton i really need something bigger than a 3.5ton. I have no need or desire or money for a HGV lorry though, so only need a C1 I think. This is my situation - what would you recommend?
I am 37 - passed my driving test 3 years ago but in an automatic (So i have a restricted licence). As far as I can tell there is no way to get a Auto C1 licence (and anyway I gather automatic boxes are very rare) so is my only option to FIRST get a full manual driving license and then to get my C1? Or is there any other route with less tests or is there a C1 (auto restriction) option? Just not looking forward to all those tests ... any advice? thanks in advance
I intend to buy a horse box for taking my two horses to shows etc but as the combined weight of my horses is over a ton i really need something bigger than a 3.5ton. I have no need or desire or money for a HGV lorry though, so only need a C1 I think. This is my situation - what would you recommend?
I am 37 - passed my driving test 3 years ago but in an automatic (So i have a restricted licence). As far as I can tell there is no way to get a Auto C1 licence (and anyway I gather automatic boxes are very rare) so is my only option to FIRST get a full manual driving license and then to get my C1? Or is there any other route with less tests or is there a C1 (auto restriction) option? Just not looking forward to all those tests ... any advice? thanks in advance
ROG
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You can go directly for a LGV C1 manual with your B auto licence
On passing C1 manual your B gets upgraded to manual for life
HGV is no more they are all LGV if over 3.5 tonnes GVW
Blythe Spirit
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Oh thanks! You just saved me from taking a whole test needlessly! Though I might still have a few lessons in a manual car first - just so that the first time I forget the clutch I don't moo down shoppers or something!
Seriously though do you have any recs for a nice LGV instructor in the midlands - Stratford Upon Avon way?
Liz
ROG
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You have provisional for B manual so will need a supervising driver and be on L plates if driving a manual car
JLD driver training at Banbury woulld be my suggestion but not sure if they have C1 vehicle
Blythe Spirit
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Thanks again - I knew the first point - I really meant I might have some lessons in a manual car before trying it in an LGV! Thanks for the Rec though - I will investigate
Liz
Ashgrove
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I've heard that everyone (me included) who is driving up to 7.5t without taking a separate test, will have to sit a test next year. Please tell me this isn't so 
ROG
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I've heard that everyone (me included) who is driving up to 7.5t without taking a separate test, will have to sit a test next year. Please tell me this isn't so
MYTH
Ashgrove
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I've heard that everyone (me included) who is driving up to 7.5t without taking a separate test, will have to sit a test next year. Please tell me this isn't so
Thank you sooooooo much ROG
LilMissy
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Any recommendations for training companies north bristol area please?
ROG
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ROG
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New rules for having some types of vehicles and all trailers laden for the test have now come into force but they do not affect those doing LGV C1 - https://www.gov.uk/new-laden-testing-rules-for-driving-test-vehicles
RobinHood
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Hi ROG. I've got a cat C licence and therefore C&E provisional. I've been driving an 18t rigid lorry with a 7t trailer, on L plates accompanied by a full licence holder. My question is can I drive combo on a motorway on L plates?
I recall when I did my cat C training we went on the motorway every morning and I'd like to think the LGV training company would know the rules, but I can't find the answer on the DVLA website.
Thanks
I recall when I did my cat C training we went on the motorway every morning and I'd like to think the LGV training company would know the rules, but I can't find the answer on the DVLA website.
Thanks
ROG
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RobinHood
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Thanks ROG !
ROG
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A little update - cannot remember if I have mentioned already ... me getting old !!
Within the next few weeks a driver with a manual car licence who then pass any LGV test in an auto will get LGV manual due to an EU directive which should have been in force from 1st January this year
Those doing LGV C will also find that they will be loaded with 5 tonnes of weight in the form of 5 x 1000 litre water IBCs
No weight in C1s
Within the next few weeks a driver with a manual car licence who then pass any LGV test in an auto will get LGV manual due to an EU directive which should have been in force from 1st January this year
Those doing LGV C will also find that they will be loaded with 5 tonnes of weight in the form of 5 x 1000 litre water IBCs
No weight in C1s
lozzareed
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Taking my CPC next week but not actually sure what it's all about, would someone explain to me if anyone is knowledgeable?
ROG
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Initial (modules 2 and 4) or periodic (35 hours) ?
I assume you mean driver cpc and not operator cpc?
lozzareed
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Drivers CPC sorry and yes modules 2 and 4
ROG
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The best info on this is in the LGV TRAINING TIPS thread on the trucknetuk site newbies forum
Generally the mod 2 is done at the theory test centre and is a set of senarios with a few questions of multiple choice on each scenario
Mod 4 needs training for and is done at the practical test centre
Gemmabel
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Hi
Having just purchased a 6.6T horsebox i have some questions about the load.
If i just do the C1 license am i correct in that i will only be able to travel 1 horse and be under my weight limit?
If i do the full C test i can travel with a load up to the maximum vehicle limit which i think is 10T?
If i do the full C test and travel 2 horses i have to use the tacho which is fitted and record all my working hours inc what i do (8.30-5.30) during the week which is an office job?
My OH has a full HGV1 license, i think once i have taken the medical and got my provisional he can take me driving if we have L plates on? do i need to pass the theory & hazard perception before this?
sorry for the long list
Having just purchased a 6.6T horsebox i have some questions about the load.
If i just do the C1 license am i correct in that i will only be able to travel 1 horse and be under my weight limit?
If i do the full C test i can travel with a load up to the maximum vehicle limit which i think is 10T?
If i do the full C test and travel 2 horses i have to use the tacho which is fitted and record all my working hours inc what i do (8.30-5.30) during the week which is an office job?
My OH has a full HGV1 license, i think once i have taken the medical and got my provisional he can take me driving if we have L plates on? do i need to pass the theory & hazard perception before this?
sorry for the long list
ROG
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The licence you need depends on the plated GVW of the vehicleHi
Having just purchased a 6.6T horsebox i have some questions about the load.
If i just do the C1 license am i correct in that i will only be able to travel 1 horse and be under my weight limit?
If i do the full C test i can travel with a load up to the maximum vehicle limit which i think is 10T?
If i do the full C test and travel 2 horses i have to use the tacho which is fitted and record all my working hours inc what i do (8.30-5.30) during the week which is an office job?
My OH has a full HGV1 license, i think once i have taken the medical and got my provisional he can take me driving if we have L plates on? do i need to pass the theory & hazard perception before this?
sorry for the long list
If your horsebox is 6.6 tonnes GVW then its a LGV C1 licence and having a C will make no difference because the max the vehicle can be when fully loaded is 6.6 tonnes
If the vehicle is 10 tonnes GVW then it cannot be driven on a C1 licence but must be a C
Yes, the supervising driver can be OH as long as he has had a C for at least 3 years - L plates - correct insurance - you with LGV provisional
No tacho required for C1 vehicle if non commercial use
Full tacho regs if C vehicle in which case all other sorts of work done in the same week must be officially recorded and generally if you work mon to fri then you would only be able to drive for one day every other weekend
WHAT IS THE PLATED GVW OF THIS HORSEBOX?
WHAT IS THE EMPTY WEIGHT OF THIS HORSEBOX?
Gemmabel
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I remember seeing 10T somewhere so presume this is the GVW? The tax disc that has just come through said 6.6T so presume this is the empty weight?
will have a look on the plating when i get home. This stuff just really confuses me!
will have a look on the plating when i get home. This stuff just really confuses me!
ROG
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Tax disc usually gives the GVW if I remember correctly
The V5 form will usually give lots of info
Gemmabel
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Hi ROG, me again!
here is a pic of my lorry plating. Still cant seem to find the empty weight or the payload? any ideas
here is a pic of my lorry plating. Still cant seem to find the empty weight or the payload? any ideas
ROG
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You will not find the empty weight to work out the payload from any plate
You have to take the vehicle empty to a weighbridge and weigh it with a full tank of fuel with the driver sitting in it
Once you have the ticket from the weighbridge you can then work out how many passengers horses tack etc etc you can load in it by taking the weighbridge weight from 6600 which is the GVW
that is a LGV C1 vehicle because the GVW is not more than 7500
You can tow a trailer but how big will depend on what licence you have such as C1 only or C1+E with 107 code or C1+E with no code or C+E
You have to take the vehicle empty to a weighbridge and weigh it with a full tank of fuel with the driver sitting in it
Once you have the ticket from the weighbridge you can then work out how many passengers horses tack etc etc you can load in it by taking the weighbridge weight from 6600 which is the GVW
that is a LGV C1 vehicle because the GVW is not more than 7500
You can tow a trailer but how big will depend on what licence you have such as C1 only or C1+E with 107 code or C1+E with no code or C+E
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Gemmabel
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Thanks ROG that helps loads.
I am not looking to do a trailer test just the HGV. I am still undecided whether to do C1 or C, i think the cost will be around the same for both but am unsure how much harder the test will be.
Generally speaking with a lorry that size are you usually safe to travel 2 horses and not be overweight or does it vary hugely?
I am not looking to do a trailer test just the HGV. I am still undecided whether to do C1 or C, i think the cost will be around the same for both but am unsure how much harder the test will be.
Generally speaking with a lorry that size are you usually safe to travel 2 horses and not be overweight or does it vary hugely?
ROG
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Easily ok for 2 horses unless a very heavy living area has been fitted
You can tow a trailer with max plated MAM (or MTPLM if caravan) with a LGV C1 licence