conniegirl
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They do a fencing initial round and final round.
The initial round is today and then on sunday is the womens final
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The initial round is today and then on sunday is the womens final
Bernster
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interesting that the show jumping is back in for the modern pentathlon given the debacle last time.
AmyMay
Situation normal
It was never out…..
Bernster
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I thought it was to be binned tbh
AmyMay
Situation normal
It is. But not for this Olympics.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Apparently three years notice of ditching just one part of the modern pentathlon and swapping it with another is not enough notice 
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.Annagain
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Hopefully the debacle in Tokyo means there's been a much bigger focus on training for it since then but i fear not, especially as this is the last time it'll feature.
teapot
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Apparently three years notice of ditching just one part of the modern pentathlon and swapping it with another is not enough notice
Those in the sport don’t want it binned though
BronsonNutter
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Final discipline is the combined run and laser shoot? At least it normally is, as they set off at intervals depending on numbers of points achieved in the other disciplines.
As someone who competed in modern pentathlon I’m sad to see the equestrian side go as that’s why many GB competitors got into it - through pony club tetrathlon etc. I was hoping they could have changed it to reward good riding more (style bonus marks, a dressage test?) as currently you can gain more points by focusing on swimming faster etc than riding well. But I do get the concerns. Hopefully Paris will have more suitable, forgiving and confident horses than in Beijing or Tokyo, where it was never fair to expose some of those horses to that kind of environment. Fingers crossed.
I’ve been lucky in that every modern pentathlon I’ve competed in I’ve drawn nice horses.
teapot
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Horses wise - they’d being provided by one of the many French military set ups I think I read somewhere.
Scheduling it seems a little odd as the app’s saying there are quarters and semis, but looks like order is:
Fencing
Show jumping
Swimming
Run and shoot
(With four of those in the same venue). Is the fencing at Versailles too for MP?
Scheduling it seems a little odd as the app’s saying there are quarters and semis, but looks like order is:
Fencing
Show jumping
Swimming
Run and shoot
(With four of those in the same venue). Is the fencing at Versailles too for MP?
Bernster
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Yeah I’d say ditch the jumping and reward flatwork instead or even a trec style that demonstrates riding skill better.
ihatework
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Lazy question cos I could look it up 
Has the pentathlon sj’ed yet? If not anyone know when it’s on?
Has the pentathlon sj’ed yet? If not anyone know when it’s on?
asmp
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I think the men are from 1200 tomorrow and the women from 0830 on Saturday (as far as I know!)Lazy question cos I could look it up
Has the pentathlon sj’ed yet? If not anyone know when it’s on?
criso
Coming over here & taking your jobs since 1900
I did tetrathlon as well and when I did it you needed a decent pony/horse and to be fairly competent as it was a decent cross country course. It was the same course/level as the interbranch eventing. Then they saw if you were an adequate swimmer or runner and put a gun in your hand.
However in Pentathlon there seems to be too many people who have come at it from other discipline and fast tracked basic riding skills and even some of the medal winners looked very rough and ready.
So I understand why it has to go
ihatework
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Thank you!
Bobthecob15
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Charlie in 27th after fencing, it’s not his strongest discipline. Should do well in the riding though! 
martyfisch
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And introduce penalties for strapping the horses mouth shut!
Shooting Star
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Pentathlon SJ is currently live for any brave enough to watch.
Seems to be going ok, lots of very kind horses helping riders out. Some riders definitely much better than others but nothing dreadful that I’ve seen so far.
Seems to be going ok, lots of very kind horses helping riders out. Some riders definitely much better than others but nothing dreadful that I’ve seen so far.
Crazy_cat_lady
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Gold for Toby in the climbing! Hopefully get some more funding for niche sports like that
ihatework
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On the whole that wasn’t too horrific!
The French have supplied a very good set of genuine honest competent horses.
A handful of nice riders. A couple of those with an unlucky pole.
Some wobbly riders who got lucky with horses that got them out of trouble! It does amaze me that at Olympic level some of these athletes don’t just put a little more effort into improving their riding!
The French have supplied a very good set of genuine honest competent horses.
A handful of nice riders. A couple of those with an unlucky pole.
Some wobbly riders who got lucky with horses that got them out of trouble! It does amaze me that at Olympic level some of these athletes don’t just put a little more effort into improving their riding!
teapot
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Access to training will be part of the issue. Even in the UK, without your own horse, you’re limited to training at a very select few places with horses suitable to jump the height required.
asmp
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Overall it wasn’t bad. Not sure if it was better riders or better horses but apart from one rider who was pony club kicking with spurs on, it was OK to watch. I have a feeling the women were worse at the last Olympics?
clinkerbuilt
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just watched on replay: what a lovely set of generous horses
millitiger
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If anyone is ever stuck buying me a present, I will accept any of the horses from the pentathlon.
What lovely, generous, careful and kind horses they all were.
What lovely, generous, careful and kind horses they all were.
humblepie
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I haven't watched it, but horses are just generally pretty amazing aren't they.
ihatework
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At least half of them look like the need a year on the lunge without reins and stirrups!
Annagain
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Generally the women tend to be better as more have started with riding and added the others whereas it's usually the other way round with the men. Nations with traditionally strong equestrian sport, like the UK, tend to produce better riders too as, again, they start with riding and add the others. Pony club tetrathlon is the training ground for most UK pentathletes whereas for other nations, it's a sport for those who aren't quite good enough for the pure disciplines so they add others - with riding usually the last one to be added.
I've always thought there should be a twice-yearly, out-of-competition riding assessment at which competitors get a grading. Depending on the grading you jump a certain height and only by jumping the top height can you get a full score, then there's a sliding scale of maximum points awarded for lower heights. Not only would this be better for horses who can dig riders and themselves out of a hole far more easily over 90cm or 1m than the full height, it would give the athletes far more incentive to train far more often and with quality trainers.
I haven't watched this morning but it does sound like the French organisers have done a far better job of finding the right sort of horses this time round. Thankfully, for all involved including (especially) the horses.
Crazy_cat_lady
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This breaking is making me feel old I haven't the foggiest what's going on 
Spotherisk
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This breaking is making me feel old I haven't the foggiest what's going on
Neither do I, but I’m backing Anti over Ami in this round!
Edited to say I really know nothing as Ami won that round 2-0!