Honey08
Waffled a lot!
That makes it even more ridiculous- no video footage at the Olympics?? And why wouldn’t they accept someone else’s photo/video. Absolutely amateurs. (The Olympic ground jury). I feel so angry.
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LittleLegs&Co
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The commentators on Discovery kept mentioning the cameras set up in front of some of the fences for exactly this reason, so they could check if any uncertainty. So why wasn't there one on that fence?
OrangeAndLemon
Afraid of exorcism
And the footage showed FJs recording on their own phones.
dreams579
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I’m hoping it’s redundant anyway as the team will still win tomorrow but if they don’t, I wonder if there is an argument to take it to the Court of Arbitration for Sport? That doesn’t sound like a fair ruling from the GF at all! Has every rider who kicked that flag out (and there were a few!) all been awarded penalties?!
Nicnac
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Not about the flag but Shadowman. Originally it was said (in H&H) that he was moving countries temporarily and going to Burto for 6 months. Now it appears that he's been bought by Burto's yard owners. Do they mean he's been leased or has Ben Hobday sold him?
Honey08
Waffled a lot!
It’s probably best he sells him. He hasn’t done much with him and he’s clearly a brilliant horse.
Ben posted a fabulously sweet video of himself watching the dressage and he really rode every moment with him.
Ben posted a fabulously sweet video of himself watching the dressage and he really rode every moment with him.
Kat
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I don't believe Ben owned him.
ihatework
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On another note Nicholas Touzaint was carded for abuse of horse back in May.
He is on very dodgy ground for pressing a tired horse and if he gets a card (I have an awful suspicion he won’t) then he would get a suspension.
He is on very dodgy ground for pressing a tired horse and if he gets a card (I have an awful suspicion he won’t) then he would get a suspension.
pistolpete
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Just watched the French horse coming in and he was knackered!
Honey08
Waffled a lot!
Was he towards the end? I didn’t see his round. I will go back and look.
pistolpete
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How do they get them fit to show jump the next day after all that exertion?
ihatework
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Most come back pretty well.
Some may need fluids but it’s not that common.
Generally only if they are harbouring sub clinical injury do they really struggle.
Some will have muscle fatigue and just be a bit less pingy
pistolpete
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Thank you. That makes complete sense now.
Peregrine Falcon
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Wouldn't be a shame if that poor tired french horse had less ping and took a few fences down?
Not wishing the horses ill though. I hope they are all well after their extertions today.
Not wishing the horses ill though. I hope they are all well after their extertions today.
Annagain
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It’s well known in rugby circles that footage that would go against French teams is often not available to television match officials (local broadcasters provide the footage to the officials) and miraculously becomes available after the match. I’m not saying this is what has happened here but I wouldn’t be surprised if (official) footage suddenly emerges after the event has ended.
piebaldproblems
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Alex Hua Tian still has his penalties too despite a fence judge practically running in front of his horse. Absolutely ridiculous decision making on the jury’s part.
pistolpete
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Alex definitely was impeded!
pistolpete
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Damn that ground jury!!
Pebble101
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Was that the fence with a fence judge that seemed to be a bit like a headless chicken? I thought you stopped a rider by waving a red flag and they were just waving their arms around. Also ran in front of another rider. I hope they aren't used again.
pistolpete
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Yep!
criso
Coming over here & taking your jobs since 1900
The way a rugby match is filmed in an enclosed space means there would be multiple camera angles all pointing at the same thing.
Cross country for the Olympics will have fewer angles as the cameras are spread out. The host broadcaster films and the other countries take the footage. Realistically there won't be broadcast cameras positioned head on to every single element of that combination. It's one of the reasons eventing is unpopular because you need so many resources to film it.
The angle from the TV footage isn't helpful as it's side on. They clearly positioned the camera to film c head on and them pan right to d. All you can see from that is that it wasn't Ros' foot as the flag was coming down before. In the shot below (from the official broadcast) the flag is already on the move.
There will be stills photographers but unless you have a series they won't necessarily be helpful.
So all that's left is amateur footage like the one shared upthread from Facebook and I don't what the procedure would have been to get that in front of the ground jury.
Annagain
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I completely agree about the camera angles but was just making the point that French broadcasters have form for not being able to find footage that would go against their teams.
criso
Coming over here & taking your jobs since 1900
Yes but in this case professional footage is unlikely to exist whereas in Rugby there's a good chance it does just because of the logistics of the event.
Incidentally the filming is all produced by OBS (I've worked with them). They use the host national broadcaster as well as big OB companies for convenience but they own and distribute the footage to the various takers.
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paisley
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So they don’t have official footage but won’t accept anything else? 
cauda equina
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I am not surprised they won't accept unofficial footage when faking images seems to be so easy; I'm not saying that people would or have in this case, just that people do
Does anyone know who is on the ground jury? Presumably its members are not just French
Does anyone know who is on the ground jury? Presumably its members are not just French
TheMule
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People really need to stop the anti-French narrative. It’s unfair and it doesn’t help our cause. The GJ are hugely experienced and represent several different nationalities so that they are neutral. This is not a French decision.
It is a shame it appears that the official footage has been obscured. You can see why they can’t just use random images sent in from members of the public. There are worse things that happen, and GB are still in gold. It will make the SJ today really exciting because it’s so close!
It is a shame it appears that the official footage has been obscured. You can see why they can’t just use random images sent in from members of the public. There are worse things that happen, and GB are still in gold. It will make the SJ today really exciting because it’s so close!
neddy man
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Looking at that picture yes the post is already sloping on it's way out of the ground, but it is on the outside of the nearside leg, if it was on the inside under the chest the angle would be entirely different.
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U.N.Owen
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Anyone know how the trot up is going?
OrangeAndLemon
Afraid of exorcism
All brits accepted
Cekatinka withdrawn from the holding box so Japan will take 20pens and substitute in their reserve rider for the SJ. They drop out of bronze medal position for now.
There were a few other withdrawals including Sarah Ennis.
Cekatinka withdrawn from the holding box so Japan will take 20pens and substitute in their reserve rider for the SJ. They drop out of bronze medal position for now.
There were a few other withdrawals including Sarah Ennis.
OrangeAndLemon
Afraid of exorcism
Christopher Wahler will continue into the SJ because it was a rider fall and not a horse fall but he keeps the 200pens.
Carlos Parro and Safira, Sanna Sitakorpi and Carlos Diaz are the other withdrawals before the trot up.
Carlos Parro and Safira, Sanna Sitakorpi and Carlos Diaz are the other withdrawals before the trot up.