Equine_Dream
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Our YO has just put a message up saying we can ride again! I'm over the moon. Been luckier than most as we were still able to see our horses everyday but I've missed riding so much!
JFTDWS I'm really sorry, I really didn't mean to offend you but without knowing your background, I've seen a lot of posts on here that are questionable scientifically.
The government is relying on the public to use good judgment and common sense as lockdown measures are eased so I’m sure everything will be absolutely fine ? As long as we do everything it says in the 50 page recovery plan or if it doesn’t specifically say we can’t do something assume that we can then we can’t go far wrong can we?
Mmm, I have to say I'm not sure who "they" are in these cases. I take these reports with a pinch of salt. For every officious person saying NIMBY, I bet there is a local business reliant on the tourist/day trip industry desperate for business and with a contingency plan as to how they could provide their services safely.The rural areas - south west - have said they don't want people travelling there.
To be clear, the issue for most people isnt around the BEF or BHS guidance, as riding has never been banned. It is DEFRA that prohibited the transport of horses unless for urgent veterinary treatment or for welfare reasons, as it is non-essential transport.
The definition of essential transport is the issue for many people wanting to take their horse to lessons or to ride.
I think you're being optimistic. One thing this situation has shown is that the general public seem to lack common sense. The first warm weekend we get the coastal towns will be full of people squashed onto a beach and queueing up for food. The rural areas - south west - have said they don't want people travelling there.
Mmm, I have to say I'm not sure who "they" are in these cases. I take these reports with a pinch of salt. For every officious person saying NIMBY, I bet there is a local business reliant on the tourist/day trip industry desperate for business and with a contingency plan as to how they could provide their services safely.
It is a valid point, but to me there are a few differences. Firstly in respect of flu health care workers and the vulnerable could be vaccinated, and also the treatment was known. Of course the infection rate with this virus is higher, which coupled with the lack of vaccines leads to the potential for huge growth and total paralysis of the health service. I do not recall shortages of PPE being an issue before either. So while I take your point about stresses on the NHS I believe that this is different to a bad year of flu infections.I can't remember there being any suggestions on the forum that people should stop riding to reduce pressure on the NHS two years back, when the news was full of pictures of people on trolleys in hospital corridors because it was a very bad year for flu. What's the difference this time?
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Judging by venues already popping up for arena hire and cross country, I'd say the assumption is you can.So are people now allowed to travel their horses to another venue/instructor?
I am surprised the government has not insisted all businesses & self employed people put together a COVID-19 risk assessment outlining what they are going to do to minimise the risk. Yes it is more work to try and implement these procedures which is probably why yards just banned access as easier to do this than put in place procedures & unlike most businesses that prevent access the money still came in as liveries could not easily move yards due to the lockdown.
Latest update.
https://www.bhs.org.uk/our-charity/press-centre/news/2020/may/120520
Important Update for Equestrian Centres and Coaches in England
Further to guidance for recreational sport and exercise from the Sport & Recreation Alliance and Sport England, the BHS is advising that riding schools, facility centres and livery yards in England may re-open from Wednesday 13th May 2020 whilst observing the current Government guidance in relation to social distancing. In addition there will be further Government guidance on hygiene and increased biosecurity for the resumption of sport which must be followed. This information will be made available on the gov.uk website in the coming days and we will share it once it has been made available.
To align with the latest Government guidelines that you may only exercise in groups of no more than two unless you are exclusively with members of your household, riding schools and freelance coaches are advised to provide lessons or coaching to individuals only, not to family groups. Please see the gov.uk Q&A for further information in this regard.
The Sport & Recreation Alliance has advised that it is for individual facilities and organisations to develop their own guidance on reopening, to best fit their own situation, in line with the Government's advice. The BHS will support centres by providing advice, guidance and risk assessment templates which will follow in order to help you re-open your business.
The continuation of this advice and guidance is conditional based upon the criteria set by Government and is therefore subject to change.
This update is for England only. Our guidance from Monday 11th May remains unchanged for Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
As a regulator heavily involved with the current Corvid 19 situation, can I just highlight that the BHS, PIF, Kennel Club etc and other trade bodies have absolutely no power or right to insist a business closes or opens at any given time.
So the advice below has no weight, AA?
‘Further to guidance for recreational sport and exercise from the Sport & Recreation Alliance and Sport England, the BHS is advising that riding schools, facility centres and livery yards in England may re-open from Wednesday 13th May 2020 whilst observing the current Government guidance in relation to social distancing.‘
I think part of the problem is that the BHS are also the insurers, and withdrew insurance cover?
That's the impression I got from my physio.
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I think you can still move your youngster as you are moving it from one home to another so counts as essential care . Certainly a few have permanently come and gone ( permanently ) at my livery during full lockdown with no problems .I'm in Wales & therefore locked down for another 3 weeks at least, my youngster I'm waiting to bring across from England is now unable to be moved until this is lifted as transporters aren't operating. Frustrating but it is what it is.
It's through SEIB and it was never invalid, that was a rumor. The BHS have only ever issued advice, as stated above, they have no authority to make rules
My physio told me that she had been informed her insurance was not valid if she worked during the lockdown. I have no idea who she was insured by.
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Long way round (would be heading over the Severn bridge) but might be necessary.Ah, Wales. Can you re route to keep to this side of the border?
ETA We’re near to the border too, and normally criss cross it without a thought...